Who's the greatest southpaw of all time?

That's not true at all. He's far from an idiot and the only one that I might think of that he nuthuggs is probably Eder Jofre. I have had discussions with him about the greatest MW of all time. He doesn't have a clear #1. But, he says the top 4 are Greb, SRR, Monzon, and Hagler. Which I agree with. What he means is I questioned him on why he had Monzon at 10 in his Middleweight list, tried to have a debate with him but he threw out his usual insults instead of holding his ground. Now I'm a nut hugger that knows nothing and he can't get past it. BlackIrish / Steak had him in the same fashion and now he's a no nothing nut hugger apparently :lol1:

Manny Pacquiao is the greatest Southpaw of All Time. Simply put. Followed by Sweet Pea Hagler

How the fck did we forget about Hilario Zapata? One of the best defensive fighter ever. Fucking ey....How did I forget about him? Good call. People get confused with boxing ability and accomplishment. Pernell handsdown the most skilled southpaw but Pac is the greatest. The way he climbed divisions afte divisions and the way he beat thosd guys consistenly. If floyd had pac's accomplishment you would probably rank him top 3 ATG. 4 lineal and 8 division titlist. No one was supposed to be as good as Pac. But he is real. A freak of nature. Nah...Whitaker is greater in terms of resume. Whitaker fought and beat better opponents. And, lets forget that Whitaker was robbed a few times as well. In terms of resume and accomplishments Whitaker is greater and better in terms of skills. Now how many REAL divisions did he climb when you take out the phony Junior and Super divisions? Not so special now huh? Well he started a Flyweight and went all the way up to WW. Won titles in 4 of the original 8 weight-classes, 2 of those weight-class were lineal. And, he skipped the Bantamweight division. So really he climbed 5 of the original 8 weight-classes. Pretty damn special if you ask me. Nothing that someone like Armstrong didn't do LONG ago now isn't it? Poet No you right, is not like Armstrong who started at featherweight and won championships at 126, 135, and 147 and defending the championship in all 3 weight-classes simultaneously. Also defending the WW championship a record 18 times. While also challenging for the MW championship in a fight that he probably deserved to win. So it's nothing like Armstrong you're right but that doesn't mean that is not special. Because, it is...Nobody but Pac has come even in the same continent to Armsrtong like Pac has in terms of jumping up weight-classes. And, lets not forget the other 2 weight-classes were Pac has won lineal titles in 130 and 140. Those weight-classes were around during Armstrong time. They're not like the strawweight, super middleweight, cruiserweight divisions were is somewhat new division with no real history. the super featherweight and junior lightweight division have a pretty good history that goes back like 70-80 years ago.

Even when one takes a closer look into Pacquiao's resume and find holes, his resume nonetheless is still impressive. Not better than Whitaker's though, don't see how a case could be made. every fighter's resume can be broken down and discredited. i think its between whitaker and pac.

On what phuking planet is Flash Elorde or Joe Calzaghe better then Hector Camacho? that would be planet earth. i don't even like calzaghe that much

People get confused with boxing ability and accomplishment. Pernell handsdown the most skilled southpaw but Pac is the greatest. The way he climbed divisions afte divisions and the way he beat thosd guys consistenly. If floyd had pac's accomplishment you would probably rank him top 3 ATG. 4 lineal and 8 division titlist. No one was supposed to be as good as Pac. But he is real. A freak of nature. Even when one takes a closer look into Pacquiao's resume and find holes, his resume nonetheless is still impressive. Not better than Whitaker's though, don't see how a case could be made.

People get confused with boxing ability and accomplishment. Pernell handsdown the most skilled southpaw but Pac is the greatest. The way he climbed divisions afte divisions and the way he beat thosd guys consistenly. If floyd had pac's accomplishment you would probably rank him top 3 ATG. 4 lineal and 8 division titlist. No one was supposed to be as good as Pac. But he is real. A freak of nature.

Henry Maske? i had to look it up, i was wrong. he fought no one even close to top 10...lol, the dude he fought for the back then completely worthless wbo belt was coming off 2 losses. the only name i really recognize on moorer's ledger at lhw is frankie swindell

How the fck did we forget about Hilario Zapata? I know next to nothing about him, if you can tell me some fights to watch that would be awesome, I'm fond of defensive southpaws from Panama :lol1:

One dude who was questionable. I pit top 5 so there could he no argument. His name escapes me but I think he just gave prince Charles a good fight. Henry Maske?

How the fck did we forget about Hilario Zapata? One of the best defensive fighter ever.

He didn't fight anyone in the top 10 if I'm not mistaken **** how could I miss Elorde, nice call :fing02: Not top 5 but I think Chuck Davey deserves a shout too, quite overlooked. One dude who was questionable. I pit top 5 so there could he no argument. His name escapes me but I think he just gave prince Charles a good fight.

On what phuking planet is Flash Elorde or Joe Calzaghe better then Hector Camacho?

looking good against Nobodies will never make you greater than PAC. He didn't even fight a top 5 lhw at the time. Which means none of those dudes were even equal to clottey. He didn't fight anyone in the top 10 if I'm not mistaken Whitaker is the greatest southpaw of all time. It shouldn't even be debatable. Pac and Hagler clearly round of the top 3 IMO. Who goes at 2 and 3 is debatable however IMO. Flowers and Elorde in any order round off the top 5 IMO. Then Saldivar #6. With Galaxy, Calzaghe, Camacho, and "Too Sharp" rounding off the top 10. If I have to make a list it would go like this. 1. Whitaker 2. Pac 3. Hagler 4. Elorde 5. Flowers 6. Saldivar 7. Galaxy 8. Calzaghe 9. Camacho 10. Johnson. But, again Hagler and Pac and are interchangeable. **** how could I miss Elorde, nice call :fing02: Not top 5 but I think Chuck Davey deserves a shout too, quite overlooked.

lol good comeback are you proud of yourself? Just stating the obvious.

He's a nuthugging idiot who blows a gasket if you don't have Monzon ranked as the Middleweight GOAT. Poet That's not true at all. He's far from an idiot and the only one that I might think of that he nuthuggs is probably Eder Jofre. I have had discussions with him about the greatest MW of all time. He doesn't have a clear #1. But, he says the top 4 are Greb, SRR, Monzon, and Hagler. Which I agree with.

poet homey, post a list!

You're a retard. lol good comeback are you proud of yourself?

BTW, spit or swallow girlfriend? :loser9: What's your issue with NChristo? He's a great knowledgeable poster. Manny Camacho Winky and Hagler You're a retard.

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