Vic hits like a brick****house and Tony has had his chin cracked. Couple that with the aggression of Ortiz and Tony's lack of defense and I think this one turns into a beating.
Or vise versa.
Yeah but Tony doesn't hit all that hard these days. Assuming Victor figured out how to defend against a looping right he should be fine.
That video just made me hate that dude,thats your blood your family to talk about him like he is trash,shows the pure scum this guy is.
Agreed. Absolutely disgraceful.
I dont hate Manny or any fighter for that matter, but he has lost me as a fan by picking all of his recent fights at just the right time. He hasnt been in a fight I thought he could lose since the last Marquez fight. In fact, his strategy of picking fights with old names is now going to be the road most promising young fighters take. You can see it with Khan already. All the talent in the world, but he is going to end up taking on the same guys that were shot when they fought Manny years ago (MAB, Morales ect.) Its frustrating because the game Uncle Bob is playing is so fuuuuucking obvious now. Manny has no intention of fighting a threat. He is just going to ride out his "brand" until he retires. Not one young, hungry fighter in recent memory. Just a bunch of old guys coming to collect a check, people who just walk forward with almost no movement, guys with no defense, or guys without a straight right. Sometimes several of these things. Plus, most of the guys he has fought recently have come off of losses either in their last fight, or very recently. Lastly, fighting Marquez now just pisses me off. Marquez wanted a rematch for years, and even chased Manny to his home trying to get one. After a "draw" and a very close and disputed loss, Manny lets him get old before he fights him. Juan is getting caught flush by guys like Diaz and Kat. Perfect time for Manny to take him.
His pre and post Wlad-Haye videos are something to behold. He compares Haye to some of the greatest people throughout history (Gandhi included...somehow) and then in the post fight he blames the entire fight on Wlad, and then *****es about being bitter. I admit, I watch his videos. But I went from watching to hear a guy who used to be right break down fights, to now wanting to hear the Black version of Teddy Atlas spend 15 minutes calling a fight totally wrong in his breakdown. He cant even pick the obvious ones these days. His newest video calls for Ortiz to outbox Floyd if he expects to win. Seriously...
I think the main problem with the new fans seems to be the perception that they are fans of a single fighter and not of the sport of Boxing. Mayweather fans heard this for years, now Manny's fans are hearing it. Alot of that comes from people who say they started watching boxing when Manny fought Oscar who then turn around and call Manny the greatest boxer of all time. They base this on bias and an article they came across somewhere. Those fans give all the other fans a bad name (not to single out Manny, just an example.)
I look at this thread to mean fights that we actually expected to be good, but then ended up ****ty. Right? In that case its tougher, because lots of big fights were going to be obvious stinkers from the get go. I dont remember the last fight that I thought would actually be exciting that ended up boring. Haye vs Wlad was never going to be a fan friendly fight. Just like Ward vs Froch will be ugly and foul filled. Most of these are clear the second they are signed.
Its a waste of time for Khan at this point. Same reason nobody is asking for Martinez to rematch Margarito. Every fight fan on the planet knows who wins both of these fights now.
Khan hasn't shown arrogance. That doesn't mean he's not arrogant but so far he seems like a real down to earth kid.
Don't kid yourself. Khan is one of the most arrogant fighters in boxing.
Martinez kills Margarito at this point. He lost when he was green and has gotten much better. Margarito has gotten a lot worse. Martinez even said a few months back that he didnt want the fight because he didnt want to hurt Margarito. Sergio knocks Cotto out, but at least its a fun fight to watch.
I give him a chance based on Vitali getting a fluke injury. That's it. He has no punch, his chin has been close to failing him against lighter punchers at heavy. He is going to try to hit and turn Vitali and beat him with speed and angles. It wont get him anywhere. Vitali throws more punches then Mayweather, hits hard with both hands, and has a granite chin. Adamek goes out on his shield in this one. Either flat on his back KO or his corner throws in the towel. He has never fought a guy who can use his size so well, hits so hard, and gives you such a different look as Vitali does. I am a big Adamek fan for fighting these big guys and fighting them like a man, but he is not seeing he final bell in this one.
Morales is in my top two favorite fighters of all time, but no. He was in against a guy who was slow, and cant box. Just a clubber coming in to bomb him out. Erik will always do ok against those kind of guys. But he is still shot and shouldnt be fighting anymore.
Dream Theater, Symphony X, Aventura, AC/DC, Joe Satriani, Michel Romeo, Hendrix, The Police, Vico C, Soda Stereo, Cerati, Metallica, Pantera, Juan Luis guerra, Laura Pausini, Niccolò Paganini, Johann Sebastian Bach, Vangelis
Why no Paul Gilbert or Guthrie Govan?
The pathetic thing is that he is fighting some of the same guys who were shot to **** years ago when they fought Manny. He already fought MAB, now he is fighting Morales. Next is to bring Hatton out of retirement. Khan has a ****load of talent, but I dont think Freddie is going to let him fight anyone with a pulse. Manny showed you can become an icon by fighting zero difficult fights (after the 2nd Marquez fight.)
i like Paul Gilbert and Guthrie Govan, but my favorite one is michael romeo from symphony x, Joe satriani is second :)
Yeah Romeo is a beast, and Satch is always a good listen. Something about Guthrie has had my attention as of late. Well the two of us will have to talk guitar sometime. Im always interested to hear about what rigs others play. :biggthump