Ward vs. Kovalev is a terrible comparison because all boxing comparisons are terrible, fighters are unique. Why those two fighters, why not any other fighters to have a sequel? Why not Pacquiao Bradley? One fighter gets robbed, to come back and win with essentially the same fight.
But if you do make that comparison, then GGG is Ward (excellent jab, controls pace of fight) and Canelo is Kovalev (stamina problems).
Probably true. Canelo's Achilles heel is his stamina. It's not his boxing skill. Appears that Golovkin doesn't have stamina issues. He'll probably start pressuring Canelo early on in the fight to wear him down. Maybe Canelo can weather the storm early and catch Golovkin but I don't think he can hurt him let alone knock him out.
Ward is a skilled fighter but he's not a "knockout artist". He more or less gets in there, figures out his opponents weaknesses and eventually picks them apart. Its unfortunate that Ward's legacy might end with the 2 Kovalev fights. The controversy surrounding the first one didn't help nor did Kovalev's performance in the 2nd one.
Rewatched the fight, it was great. I actually scored a draw.
Golovkin was nervous in the first 3 rounds, he gave Canelo too much respect. But he adapted bigly after the third, Canelo also slowed down bigly.
Now G knows Canelo has nothing to trouble him with , he'll let his hands go from the opening bell, inflicting more damage on Canelo early, and he'll eventually win via late round TKO imo.
I see it playing out the same way. Golovkin was much too tentative early on. He knows now what Canelo has to offer so I think he'll go after him right away.
Which guy do you think landed more clean shots on golovkin? I'll wait.
Canelo landed the cleaner shots but ineffective. Still a good fight though. Don't be so emotional. Golovkin beat them both. You know it.
Canelo landed more clean and effective shots on golovkin, and it was a draw, not a loss, I'm not being emotional at all...i speak from facts...unlike yourself
What makes you think your opinions are more important than mine or anyone else's on this forum. I'm well aware that the fight was scored a draw. My opinion is that Golovkin won both fights. Sorry if we differ but I respect your opinion.
Its comical. Who was Golovkin supposed to fight that he hasn't fought? Prior to Canelo (?) he's beaten every middleweight that was sanctioned and stood before him thus far. Who else that was willing to get in the ring with him was he supposed to fight?
Opposition improving most definitely. Canelo and Jacobs were at the top of the food chain so both tough fights. Nobody has dominated him yet so I think he's still got it.
Combination of the two. Four hundred career fights will take a toll on a fighter's body way faster than a few years of cherry-picking and only fighting twice per year. At 35 he backed up a younger, prime opponent and was robbed of a win.
Its true. Everyone was talking about an aging Golovkin but its the young lion who gassed out under his pressure. Hopefully in May, 2018 they'll rematch and the judges will see a clear win from either side. I think Golovkin has Canelo's number, i.e. lack of stamina, and he will capitalize on it right from the opening round.
7 months is that enough time for such a injury to heal? What are the chances of it happening again?
Achilles' tendon rupture/repair needs a year at least for recovery particularly in an athlete who puts higher demands on his body than the average person. Hayes may be the exception but he should be cautious about getting into the ring too soon.
Larry was great in his day who as mentioned above had one of the best jabs in boxing. He was very bitter immediately after his fight with Tyson and he’s holding on to that. When Tyson was in his prime he was indestructible. Nobody could come close to beating him. Imho even in today’s world a prime Mike Tyson would clean out the HW division.
Wilder and Joshua are just too big and strong
You might be right. I do seem to remember Frank Bruno being pretty big. Also Trevor Berbick. A past prime Tyson would definitely have issues with Wilder and Joshua. "Prime" iron Mike was definitely a force to be reckoned with.
I think Ward is a good commentator as well. His insight is real and his experience in the ring adds a valuable component to the broadcast. And as others here have said, he can complete an entire sentence. Hope they keep him around.
It should be a rule that you HAVE to fight the other champs and then once a fighter gets all the titles then mandatories can come about...It should be the best vs the best period..the champs fight each other with the rest fight o get the right to challenge the true champ.
Agree. Problem is promoters and boxing organizations couldn’t manipulate the revenue stream in their favor. Boxing more than any other sport has been all about business for some time now.
Broner’s a punk and was lucky to have his 15 minutes of fame. Chino showed him what it was like to get in there with a man. Ever since then he hasn’t done much. He’s young but I don’t think he has much left for anybody to care about.
Wilder is a big powerful puncher but if we’re being objective here, he telegraphs and punches like a windmill. AJ is skilled and might give Wilder something he hasn’t experienced before....a boxing lesson.:boxing:
Jacobs completely outclassed Arias but I was surprised he couldn’t put him away. Arias wasn’t much of a puncher either so the fight was very one sided. Jacobs against Lemieux would be very interesting. Not sure if GB would risk Canelo but I wish they would make that happen.
he's fought nothing but bums and the 2 fighters he fought that werent bums, one outboxed him until the eye gave out and the other won the fight but was robbed because he already signed the canelo fight before the jacobs fight even started that night.
If you think Brook had any shot at beating Golovkin you're watching the wrong sport. Brook is very skilled and hit Golovkin early on in the fight. It is boxing after all. When Golovkin wanted to finish the fight he did just that. Jacobs was lucky to go 12 rounds with him. Watch the fight. Golovkin outboxed and outpointed him to a unanimous decision. That's not a close fight. Jacobs fell to his knees at the end of the fight happy to get through it. The notion that "Jacobs was robbed" is ridiculous.
I think Broner is so narcissistic he thinks his mere presence in the ring commands respect:). But seriously Maidana took his soul in their fight and it was such a joy to watch.
He gets tons of hype (from his trainer and HBO) so the reaction to him is very polarizing. Some people are all in and love the guy, and others are desperate for him to get exposed. There's no in between whatosever. I'm in the middle I just want to see how good he actually is and this should be his best test to determine that. Canelo's smaller, but he's smart, can box, punch, etc. He's versatile so if GGG can break him down and stop him that says a lot. I wouldn't think he's the GOAT MW though :lol1: He's still got things to prove even if he wins, like moving up etc.
Just hoping the fight's not too cagey and is still entertaining.
Good objective post. And great Avitar BTW.
Never seen ggg not control in a fight. People have moments here and there but ggg normally have control of the distance for most of the fight. I haven't seen anyone that does body work on ggg either. Hes great at controlling distance and whenever he feels uncomfortable he shells up and back up. Dont think canelo have it him to back ggg up and unload on the body.
But to your original statement yes everyone folds when they get battered repeatedly.
This^^^^^. The other thing people forget is that Canelo will be in there with one of the most devastating punchers in boxing. If Canelo can withstand the body work that Golovkin will be sure to deliver he might have a shot. Canelo first has to get to Golovkin's body. As you say Golovkin is always in control of distance and the other fighter in general. Big task ahead of Canelo.
Unbeaten, never down, highest knockout percentage in the history of the MW division. Resume includes anyone with the balls to face him. Not his problem if the division isn't up to snuff. You can start bashing him if Canelo or anyone else beats him. Until then....sit back and enjoy the carnage.