Jacobs was faster, stronger, and counter punched GGG.
The punch that won GGG the fight was the jab. If Canelo can effectively counter and make GGG hesistant to throw the Jab he's going ot beat him.
Monroe Jr was right, GGG has a hard time fighting on the inside. Brook had sucess fighting ont he inside. When both Brooks and Monroe tried boxing and moving their fight GGG tee'd off on them and cut the ring off.
Canelo is going ot have to fight in the pocket and take the jab away. If he does that he's going to beat the **** out of GGG.
he's fought nothing but bums and the 2 fighters he fought that werent bums, one outboxed him until the eye gave out and the other won the fight but was robbed because he already signed the canelo fight before the jacobs fight even started that night.
If you think Brook had any shot at beating Golovkin you're watching the wrong sport. Brook is very skilled and hit Golovkin early on in the fight. It is boxing after all. When Golovkin wanted to finish the fight he did just that. Jacobs was lucky to go 12 rounds with him. Watch the fight. Golovkin outboxed and outpointed him to a unanimous decision. That's not a close fight. Jacobs fell to his knees at the end of the fight happy to get through it. The notion that "Jacobs was robbed" is ridiculous.
he's fought nothing but bums and the 2 fighters he fought that werent bums, one outboxed him until the eye gave out and the other won the fight but was robbed because he already signed the canelo fight before the jacobs fight even started that night.
I didn't know Kell Brook went blind during his fight with Golovkin. Should it even count as a win for Golovkin when his opponents eye gives out mid fight?
Only people overrating him are his haters themselves. He's so overrated the only guy who would beat him is Ward at Ward's weight. It's like saying Superman is overrated and the only entity who would beat him is God. If that make sense to non-sensible people.
Not hard to prognosticate...
"He was always gonna win."
"Canelo was overrated. He lost to Floyd, doe."
"Canelo is actually a SWW." lol
"Gennady should move up to LHW and fight Ward, otherwise he's an overhyped bum with no skill."
He needs to stop picking on 155 pounders is my bet
yes hes overrated just like floyd is overrated. floyd has zero great wins and people talk him up like hes up there or even better than guys like leonard who has 4. a lot of good wins over a long time is commendable but shouldnt get you on the top tier. you can go above calzaghe
Lists had him P4P #1 not too long ago. He shouldn't be anywhere near 1 based on what he's done. He's overrated.
It's mythical so there you go..
He has his share of huggers like every top fighter of a generation has.. he has good amateur background, won a silver in Olympics, won all his fights and has all the belts but 1.. He deserves to be in top 5 p4p because there aren't many guys who can be on that list atm..
Choco, Kovalev, Manny lost their fights.. Floyd is retired, Wlad lost and retired.. Usyk and Spence still have to unify to qualify for p4p much like AJ..
Thurman is right behind him followed by Rigo..
Crawford, Ward and Loma are above him on my list..
Again you're proving my point. People thought Pacquiao was the 2nd greatest of all time, he lost to Mayweather and now that's changed. So those fans claiming he was so great were overrating him. :pat:
And you are proving my point a 1000 times over.. Someone claimed he was top ATG when he clearly wasn't.. you say he is overrated and he is not..
Yes but he was still a good fighter. Which proves my point that good fighters still can be overrated. That's what Golovkin is. He's a good fighter but people are getting caught up in the hype and making ridiculous claims of ATG/P4P.
Been telling the other guy the same thing in my previous posts.. Who is making this ATG status? I don't see either you or me making that, so some nuthugger made it and you re spinning off of it..
P4P is a mythical list so sure he has a case to be in that list.. he is the best in his division like Crawford, Usyk & Ward are.. so he has made his claim to be on p4p list..
Teddy Atlas has Loma at #1 p4p, do you care to ask that lunatic why? When Ward and Crawford are well above Loma in p4p..
Nothing to do with that. When the fans are no longer caught up in hype people can assess how good a fighter really was. Tyson was viewed as one of the best ever when he was on top, now he doesn't even make it into most people top 10 HW's. Pacquiao about 4 or 5 years ago was voted #2 all time ahead of ALi in an online poll. Put that same poll up today and there's no way in hell that would happen.
Yeah because PAC lost to Floyd while both were still being active.. You are telling me if Floyd had lost to Connor it would tarnish his legacy?
Ali lost to Spinks and Berbick so what's your claim to his ATG status?
Nothing to do with that. When the fans are no longer caught up in hype people can assess how good a fighter really was. Tyson was viewed as one of the best ever when he was on top, now he doesn't even make it into most people top 10 HW's.
Tyson was fukin overrated.. beat a bunch of no hopers and a retired former champ.. when he stepped up to someone who could punch he lost.. if there is a claim to the most overrated boxer it's got to Mike Tyson..
Floyd has a great resume though and I think there is enough there to make some sort of legitimate claim for that, he is certainly up there after proving himself as the best in the sport over several eras. He's up there man. He is in that discussion.
GGG on the other hand what are they going off? Beating Brook?
lol He hadn't even beat Jacobs yet and they were saying this.
Not just a few, almost every GGG fan. The sheer hype was brainwashing most boxing fans who should know better.
These polls are lopsided too.
One guy has about 20 wins over world class opponents spanning multiple weights, the other has zero and is being already labelled as an ATG, the best MW ever, etc see the difference?
Again who is making ATG for GGG? How many are making those claims?
You can't bundle everyone under one umbrella and say they are all like that.. if you know any better you wouldn't do that ofcourse..
Floyd arguably was one of the best of this generation no fukin way he is TBE and only a nuthugger would claim that..
If a guy beats every other guy in his division then he is the best in his division no holds barred.. just because he didn't move doesn't make his skill or dominance any lesser... SMDH..
Yes he was, time has corrected that though. He used to be in everybody's top 10 ATG. Now hardly anyone has him there. OVERRATED.
You do know that ROY fought in the 90s, that was his prime..
Just because Ali got beat by some no hopers at the end of his career doesn't make him an ATG.. SMDH
It's like saying If Floyd had lost to Connor he would not be one of the best of this generation..
Do your research on Roy before you utter such drivel..
Sorry, off that list only Cotto stands out.. Mosley was old as Warren Buffet's balls and Trout is decent fighter at best.. Lara is a good scalp but the result was as debatable as it can get..
So what are GGGs wins then?
Jacobs is no Cotto, he's no Lara either. Trout at the time was deemed a legitimate threat having just shutout Cotto.
You do know people who claim he would beat Hagler, Roy Jones are as lunatic as fans calling Floyd TBE right?
They make up what 10-20% of the fan base and they should be called nuthuggers not fans..
I'm not sure why people can't make their own opinion of any fighter and need media or haters to help make their decision..
Floyd has a great resume though and I think there is enough there to make some sort of legitimate claim for that, he is certainly up there after proving himself as the best in the sport over several eras. He's up there man. He is in that discussion.
GGG on the other hand what are they going off? Beating Brook?
lol He hadn't even beat Jacobs yet and they were saying this.
Not just a few, almost every GGG fan. The sheer hype was brainwashing most boxing fans who should know better.
These polls are lopsided too.
One guy has about 20 wins over world class opponents spanning multiple weights, the other has zero and is being already labelled as an ATG, the best MW ever, etc see the difference?
Its possible to be a good fighter yet still overrated.
He's also beaten Trout, Lara (debatable), Cotto and an old Mosley. Lets not go on like anyone is putting him there just for beating GGG.
Sorry, off that list only Cotto stands out.. Mosley was old as Warren Buffet's balls and Trout is decent fighter at best.. Lara is a good scalp but the result was as debatable as it can get..
Overrated for sure by a minority of lunatics who tbf seem to of settled down at long last after seeing him look all kinds of ordinary vs Jacobs. It shouldn't of got that far, a much needed reality check.
When people and look at the polls there are a sh1t load are claiming he beats Hagler, a prime RJJ, Ward, Monzon etc by K.O
That is overrating him, that is the definition of an overhyped fighter.
That isn't me saying he's not good its me saying the people saying it are going too far and live in a fvcking bubble.
He's a good fighter, very good with a very difficult to deal with style but on the grand scheme he is overrated.
You do know people who claim he would beat Hagler, Roy Jones are as lunatic as fans calling Floyd TBE right?
They make up what 10-20% of the fan base and they should be called nuthuggers not fans..
I'm not sure why people can't make their own opinion of any fighter and need media or haters to help make their decision..
Golovkin is overrated yet Canelo deserves a top p4p spot if he beats him?
The stupidity seems no bounds... :pat:
Its possible to be a good fighter yet still overrated.
He's also beaten Trout, Lara (debatable), Cotto and an old Mosley. Lets not go on like anyone is putting him there just for beating GGG.
Golovkin fans are retarded. A fighter can be good but still overrated. Roy Jones was a great fighter but he was ****ing overrated at the time he was on top.
I'm sorry it is quite strange when a moron like you calls someone a retard..
Roy jones was overrated?
Gtfoh.. you either don't know boxing or you are a noob..