Kovalev got outboxed down the stretch and did not make the proper adjustments. It was a close fight. I saw the body work that Ward was doing as being a big factor in the momentum shift. If you deny that fact, either you are just being bias or you need to rematch the fight as it was pretty clear. It could have gone the other way easily but I personally still would have thought that Ward won. No need to turn it into a race thing as fights that get called the wrong way all of time and don't have anything to do with race, more with politics. Everyone knows that this happens in the sport of boxing way too often but this was just a case where two fighters were very evenly matched and either man could have got the nod, depending on how the judges saw it.
I once saw the great Andy Bowen face off against Jack "The Irish Lad" Burke, on the big screen. Twas an epic battle of fisti cuffs, if I ever saw one. The fight lasted 110 rounds and took 7 hours and 20 minutes. Definitely worth the 2 schillings it cost to view.
Now they should put him in the same prison as floyd, and force them to compete in a prison boxing tournament, that or they get shanked in the shower,that would be the only way we'd ever see them fight. This is good guys.:boxing:
I understand he is getting no younger & wants a big payday but continually calling out guys two weight divisions below than him, WTF?!
You can say & make excuses for the guy saying ''Oh but he is willing to go down to 150''
You think he's not going to rehydrate to something ridiculous?
His claim of walking around at 172-174 is unlikely but might be true but only having 3.2% bodyfat? COME OFF IT!
If anybody believes that they are an idiot. He's a lean guy, no doubt, he's in fantastic shape but 3.2% pmsl! That is dangerously low. PRO Bodybuilders on stage aren't that lean, or every few are.
If he walks around at that & has such low bodyfat then there is no reason this guy can not fight a super middleweight or a smaller super middleweight at say 165! Calling 144-147lbers out, what a joke he has become.
I agree with you to an extent, but you invalidate yourself with a statement like this.
Honestly what makes you beleive Floyd can beat Manny? He barely got by De La Hoya and Oscar was not in his prime Floyd was.
What has Floyd shown you to make you think he can even deal with the likes of Manny Pacquiao?
He was getting hit like crazy by Ortiz, only to turn around and cheap shot him to win. To me that is an act of a man who doesnt beleive in himself
Getting hit like crazy , o.k. how many shots did he land compared to Mayweather, please answer me that.
marquez wore that t-shirt 3 years ago but pacquiao ducked him. Pacquiao now wants to fight 39 yrs old marquez and knock him out.
That is ****ing hilarious! True, but hilarious the way uou put it.
Naah bro.. This vid is coming from a real boxing fan. Only the flomos like you can't see that your boy floyd just ripped you off and he is laughing his ass of to the bank. Checking out as you fluff him some more.. Geez.. who's really blind here hehe!? You flomos will worship your god even if it's a sucker punch a a kick to the groin, or a kick fest in a boxing match. You guys won't care as long as it's a W. Hail to the pimp hehe!
LOL. Didn't pay for that fight just like I stopped paying for Pac fights. If anyone should be mad it should be you Pactards as Manny has been ripping you off by fighting these has-beens. I mean seriously, he has you guys shelling out for the Marquez fight when come on, I knew 2 years ago when he was going to fight Maweather that even that fight was a joke. I can see the two guys for both of their bull****, unlike you tards, that Manny can do no wrong. Go fantasize about Pacroid like you always do and shut the fug up you Ladyboy cumdumpster.
Right here... Lol.
Ricunts still bitter at Margarito? Lol, never gets old. I'm a Margarito fan now... He's PR's nightmare.... Just like me.
And you're still mad about the Puerto dick down i gave your girl. I ruined it for everybody, my bad Vato.
No, you just have be poor and broke to not buy it.
$60 is chump change. That's what an Xbox game costs me and I buy like 2 a month. Some of you have some serious economical problems for real.
****in' liar. More like Mommy and Daddy buy you 2 games a month, you silly little child.
I'll actually SAVE money if I stay home and order this fight. On a regular Saturday night I'll go out and spend an easy $150.[/QUOTE
So that's how much you pay for a lady boy huh? Next time why don't you just keep that to yourself.
Did you just call Martinez a version of Victor Ortiz? :wtf:
They have literally nothing in common in terms of fighting style.
This guy's green, and I"m red?? :wank: :wank: :wank:
LOL, this is what I think with 99% of the posts I read on here.
IM green K because all of my predictions pan out right to the T. You guys have been thirsting over overhyped Martinez
You know how come I know you're a Pactard? Because you don't know Dick about boxing. :la:
Flomos need to accept that Fraud "Feather-fisted Sucker Puncher" Gayweather is nothing but a cheater.
Pactards need to accept that Juiceman aka Manny Pacquaio, is nothing but a cheater....
fixed it for you ladyboy :boxing:
It was cool how they transitioned right into and out of the fight from the reality cameras and back and forth in between rounds with the mic. Note how you were able to hear Cortez clearly tell the fighters "let's go". I thought if was interesting how they edited Jim, Manny on their immediate post knockout reactions to not sound as harsh on Floyd. They'll most likely keep doing this as it worked very well.
Yeah margs took a whooping from pac but what was difference between that ass wooping and the one pac gave to cotto? Margs was still moving foward and trying to fight while Cotto was pretty much destroyed, again. So again margs took a wooping but Cotto took 2 beatings, the other at the hands of this very man Margarito. So now the fact that the beating was to Margarito and the way it all went down, mentally Cotto is at a major disadvantage. I love Cotto and i'll be pulling for him, but c'mon man he was getting tagged by freakin' Mayorga.
I don't watch UFC at all , but still have great respect for people like the Gracie family. I respect MMA as it is, I just don't enjoy watching it as much as Boxing.
Although I wished Boxing could learn a few things from how UFC works.
This is the most accurate statement that's ever been said in any conversation comparing MMA to Boxing. Well said good Sir.
PACQUIAO REMAINS POUND FOR POUND KING :fing02:
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
PhilBoxing.com
Fri, 18 Nov 2011
WBO welterweight champion and “Fighter of the Decade” Manny Pacquiao remains Ring Magazine’s pound-for-pound king despite his controversial majority decision victory over Mexican legend Juan Manuel Marquez in Las Vegas last Saturday.
Ring’s Michael Rosenthal reported that “The knee-jerk reaction was this: Pacquiao, No. 1 pound for pound, gave a sub-par performance (for him, at least) and should have to pay a price. He noted that No 2 Floyd Mayweather Jr ”was on Pacquiao’s heels going into Saturday, just waiting for a slip-up. And that’s what happened on Saturday. One could argue that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao atop the rankings, particularly because more people than ever believe he’d beat Pacquiao head to head.”
Ring Magazine said another option we (The Editorial Board) considered was to declare the No. 1 position vacant and demand that the principals fight one another to determine the pound-for-pound king, which would’ve been the easiest way to deal with this dilemma.
In the end, though, Rosenthal said “ we decided to leave the pound-for-pound rankings as is for one simple reason: All but one member of the Ratings Advisory Panel who provided input and the entire RING Editorial Board believed it was the right thing to do.”
The Magazine, considered “The Bible of Boxing” for years considered several points.
1. Pacquiao wasn’t fighting a chump. Marquez is the No. 5 fighter in the world pound for pound. And Pacquiao beat him, at least officially.
2. A great fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because another great fighter has his number. We didn’t think less of Muhammad Ali because he had trouble with Ken Norton three times. The same with Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler in their series.
3. A fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because he has an off night, if that’s what it was on Saturday. Sergio Martinez didn’t look great against Darren Barker but no one clamored for him to be demoted.
4.Pacquiao has accomplished more than Mayweather in recent years. The Filipino is 9-0 against big-name opponents since the beginning of 2008; Mayweather is 3-0 in that time.
5.Mayweather isn’t exactly coming off a sterling performance. He looked good against Victor Ortiz for three-plus rounds but scored a knockout when Ortiz wasn’t looking.
6.And you can’t say that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao because he defeated Marquez more easily. That doesn’t take into account styles and strengths. Plus, Pacquiao beat Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya more easily than Mayweather did.
In conclusion Rosenthal, one of the most respected boxing writers said “We also feel we should add something here: Pacquiao survives as THE RING’s No. 1 fighter by a hair. Should he stumble again or Mayweather turn in an outstanding performance, a new king probably would be crowned.
And we still hold out hope that they’ll decide this once and for all by facing one another in the ring.
Rosenthal added one more note stating that Marquez moved up in weight yet still fought on at least even terms with the No. 1 fighter in the world, which might merit a bump up in the pound-for-pound ratings under certain circumstances. However, we couldn't justify placing him above Pacquiao, Mayweather, Sergio Martinez and Nonito Donaire, who don't deserve to be demoted.
You're fucking garbage dude.
Michael Katsidis is a bum who got lucky in all his best wins, a 1 dimensional bum.
Ricky Burns weighed about 2 stone heavier than Katsidis on the night and still had to hold on like John Ruiz for the last 4 rounds.
Paul Smith is a bum who has had gift decisions in order to win fights at domestic level.
James Kirkland is an overhyped bum with no chin.
Alfredo Angulo is an overhyped bum with no chin and bad stamina.
Lucien Bute is an overhyped bum who got knocked out by that bum Librado Andrade.
Glen Johnson is an old bum who showed up just to survive, with a head like a stone.
That Cote dude is a bum who will get smashed as soon as he fights someone with a punch.
His opponent is a bum who failed to take his chance in the 1st round.
Chris Leben is a bum.
You mean the bums who have the stones to step into a boxing ring and risk their life...those "BUMS"??? Let me guess, you're Fucking Superman?