Paulie Malignaggi
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Ortiz was KO'd bcuz HE made huge mistake that @FloydMayweather capitalized on. #EndOfStory #DoneTalking
Lennox Lewis
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When the ref says fight. It doesn't matter if he looks away. The fighters were instructed to fight not hug.
Andre Dirrel
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Anthonydirrell it's not ok for a champion to do something like that if @FloydMayweather would have did That it would have been all bad but since Vic did
Antonio Tarver
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Protect yourself at all times, it's the first rule of boxing.
AndreBerto
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2 B honest the butt was wrong and the last right hand punch that Floyd threw was alittle much... But u have to protect yourself at all times
Nonito Donaire
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It can be classless, it can be unsportmanike, even opportunistic, but unforunately, its still legal. Would I pull a mayweather? No. But would I pull an Ortiz and be THAT close to a fighter even IF he was saying sorry? No. Id keep arms length away.
OmarHenry
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By the way the ending wasnt dirty protect yourself at all times Victor was looking for an excuse out and he found it. STOP HATING!
Audley Harrison
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That was warming into a great fight. Shame, but Victor was naive to drop his hands like that, protect yourself at all times is the rules.
Anthonydirrell
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Did what he had to do it protect yourself at all time
BrianViloria
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Once the referee says fight...put yo damn guard up!
Rashad Holloway
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Protect yourself at all times. But damn, is there any class in boxing anymore?
Peter Quillin
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Protect urself at all times 2nd rule in boxing. 1st rule is. Keep ur hands up!
Ishe Smith
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Protect urself at all times, why are u going to hug the guy, this is the fight business
Pawel Wolak
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I probably would have hit with the left hook but not with the follow right. Got 2 keep protected at all times but try 2 keep sportsmanship.
Eddie Chambers
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Victor Ortiz should of never dropped his guard... & always know u are never friend while u in that ring!!
Steve Cunningham
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y'all call us warriors gladiators right, I agree with wut Floyd did its fight time not time to hug kiss and apologize
Yeah they have all had 4 minutes of foreplay with their opponentss????? Its not the same buddy.
What the fcuk makes you p*ssy boys comfortable enough to use any version of the word n*gger? And why arent black fighters credible? We do have a shortage of white boys on that level.
Mods do your fukin job
stfu you stupid cunt the term 'wigger' is an acceptable term used everyday in society. i use it all the time with my black friends and no one takes offense to it. it's no where near the same as saying the "N" word so go take a nap you punk ass *****
The crazy part is Vic was looking right at Floyd when Floyd hit him with the left hook , then he looks at the ref WTF is that , its time in and you get hit while looking right at your opponent and your reaction to getting hit is to look at the ref lol kid was lost at sea , he was getting schooled and knocked out in a round or two anyway , I guess Vic took the easy way out .
I'm pretty sure every one of those boxers who made that comment has extended his hand towards another fighter as a sign of respect, whether it be the last round or apologetic for a foul, leaving themselves unprotected to a certain degree.
Neither of these fighters committed an intentional foul and followed it with 4 apologies. If they foul, they give one pat or hug and that's it. Not 4.
This is getting annoying.
Ortiz hugged and kissed Mayweather to say sorry and then when Cortez separated them they touched gloves, while Floyd was still saying "what the hell?" then the went properly to neutral corners.
Cortez then motioned them together whilst saying "Let's go" the fighters moved toward each other Ortiz went to kind of hug Floyd and Floyd kinda put his arms out touched Ortiz and then moved his hands to a semi-guard position while saying something to Victor and pushing him away as if to say "come on let's fight".
He then clocked Ortiz and instead of lifting your guard which should be an auto response Ortiz decided to just look at Cortez and Mayweather followed up with a right hand. It was an annoying end to the fight and I wish Floyd didn't throw the right hand but I am also pissed off at Victor for just not putting his guard up and complaining like Mosley did.
Also it is ridiculous the amount of racism that is allowed on these boards and some of the post on these boards honestly make me feel like my brain is melting when I read them.
Yeah they have all had 4 minutes of foreplay with their opponentss????? Its not the same buddy.
What the fcuk makes you p*ssy boys comfortable enough to use any version of the word n*gger? And why arent black fighters credible? We do have a shortage of white boys on that level.
Mods do your fukin job
LLS at people thinking the mods give fvck about racial things being said about black people on this forum. Man they will let stuff like that go on all day everyday they don't care.
I just wonder if ppl h8 on floyd cause he's floyd or wat, cause I see a lot of ppl complaining about wat Floyd did but I wonder wat these same ppl would say if Ortiz seriously hurt floyd wit that flying headbutt he did would they say "Floyd is just acting"? Or "Floyd didnt wanna continue to fight"? I really think ppl need to just accept what happen an STFU, I totally agree wit Kendall Holt "Ortiz started the dirty tactics first. Don't start no **** won't be no ****" If Ortiz never threw a headbutt he wouldn't have that **** come back on him period. Ppl are pardoning this cat Ortiz for the **** he did but quick to jump on this ***** floyd for catchn this cat slippin, like I said in other threads, u go in the ring wit kisses n hugs 9X outta 10 u gettin KTFO. Ortiz already made his gesture no need to do it again after Cortez said lets go an signals time in.
it's the trickery that's the issue, Mayweather pretended to hug him like it was cool, then pulled the cheap shot like a hoodrat
Yeah it is common practise to hug someone with your hands guarding your face.
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Ashley Theophane
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what do you think 2 result "protect yourself at all times"" It is Victor's fault for not protecting himself.
Kendall Holt
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Ortiz started the dirty tactics first. Don't start no **** won't be no ****
Raul Martinez
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it was legal but unclassy. He would've won anyways maybe by ko
Jorge Linares
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Lo q opino de esta pelea es q Ortiz por ser sucio pago las consecuencia.. Floyd uso su viveza y maÑa. Pero... El referí estuvo mal.
Fernando Vargas
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He stepped back with his hands down and the ref called time in Protect yourself at all times. Nothing dirty bout what FMdid
Juan Diaz
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I did not like the way the fight ended, but everything about the situation was legal and in end Mayweather's job is to win.
Joshua Clottey
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What mayweather did was good. ortiz tried to street fight and made to pay. and to everyone asking yes id love to fight ortiz. easy fight.
Brandon Rios
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lack of heart n he **** up protect ur self at all time
pretty much most of the boxing community put this on ortiz. like i said, only ppl that should feel bad are fans who ordered the fight. they did in a sense get cheated on what could have been a good fight. ortiz deserves zero sympathy.
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Ashley Theophane
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what do you think 2 result "protect yourself at all times"" It is Victor's fault for not protecting himself.
Kendall Holt
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Ortiz started the dirty tactics first. Don't start no **** won't be no ****
Raul Martinez
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it was legal but unclassy. He would've won anyways maybe by ko
Jorge Linares
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Lo q opino de esta pelea es q Ortiz por ser sucio pago las consecuencia.. Floyd uso su viveza y maÑa. Pero... El referí estuvo mal.
Fernando Vargas
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He stepped back with his hands down and the ref called time in Protect yourself at all times. Nothing dirty bout what FMdid
Juan Diaz
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I did not like the way the fight ended, but everything about the situation was legal and in end Mayweather's job is to win.
Joshua Clottey
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What mayweather did was good. ortiz tried to street fight and made to pay. and to everyone asking yes id love to fight ortiz. easy fight.
Brandon Rios
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lack of heart n he **** up protect ur self at all time
Pactards need to accept that Juiceman aka Manny Pacquaio, is nothing but a cheater....
fixed it for you ladyboy :boxing:
Thanks for the grey karma.
Did I hit a nerve or somethin'? You need to grow up and stop being emotional, buddy. :D
Nonito Donaire
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It can be classless, it can be unsportmanike, even opportunistic, but unforunately, its still legal. Would I pull a mayweather? No. But would I pull an Ortiz and be THAT close to a fighter even IF he was saying sorry? No. Id keep arms length away.
"pull a mayweather" that's a good one
At the end of the day, Cortez ****ed up so did Ortiz, on the other hand if you watch it back its not asif Floyd doesn't not hug Ortiz back, he is also not protecting himself. The only difference is he jumped at a chance to end the fight, as IMO although he was going to beat Ortiz comfortably, he was going to take a bit of a beating in the process and PBF didn't fancy taking 12 rounds of Ortiz, even if he was going to get the win comfortably.
To sum up, everyone in the ring on the night made a mistake only Floyd is cheap enough to pounce on that half oppourtunity, who cares if its legal it doesn't make it right. Its just a shame that a fight that was just heating up had to end like that.
Until now I ain't heard anyone who is or was a boxer say anything bad about it - some are talking about sportsmanship... and of course you can talk about that...
Victor Ortiz wasn't in the position to ask for sportsmanship... does that make it better no...
If you box then you are in a battle - mentality... in the heat of the moment things happen - you decide in seconds... like someone said I don't know who it was... boxing is the sport where sportsmanship and being a gentleman kills you - in Football it is ok... in soccer it is ok... cycling whatever... but boxing? A man is standing in front of you who is trained to hit and hurt you - and you want somebody who was just butted (and Ortiz tried at least twice before) and is in his zone to act like a gentleman or sportsmanship??? And again... it wasn't even illegal... of course you want to end a fight different and I would have liked to see it end differently... BOTH men punched all night directly with breaking the clinch... Mayweather after the hugg took his hands up and then he threw... Ortiz saw it... he was looking at him it's not like he was attacking him from behind...
Mayweather is a bad man in the ring - how he is supposed to... is somebody crying about Maidana throwing straight at Khan as both came out first round and Khan wanted to touch gloves - like a poster said before Ortiz did it as well with Berto... either you are there to win or not - the question is why Ortiz ain't came up??? Because he was happy - he quit - after the second round in his corner you could see it - in his eyes... he knew Floyd will hurt him... and he simply lost it... he tried in the 4th with everything he got but he couldn't touch Floyd and he lost it...
Ortiz doesn't have the mentality... a fighters knows that and Floyd knew it too with Ortiz - and Golden Boy knew it too - I mean if Ortiz should have been a big star why do you throw him in with Mayweather if he has no real experience in that class whatsoever... Golden Boy milked him... he was a good story... Ortiz still could beat a lot of good fighters... but Pacquiao or Mayweather... no way ever - you need a different mentality for it... Mayweather did what he supposed too...
EXACTLY... Also ive heard ppl saying stuff like, he does something like that and wants to be remembered as a great fighter ? bla bla bla
Cmon can u imagine if Ortiz would have done something like that to Duran, Hagler, Tyson , Dempsey... etc.. X _ X hahahaha
Mike probably would have fked till he loved him , or eaten his children. LOL
Until now I ain't heard anyone who is or was a boxer say anything bad about it - some are talking about sportsmanship... and of course you can talk about that...
Victor Ortiz wasn't in the position to ask for sportsmanship... does that make it better no...
If you box then you are in a battle - mentality... in the heat of the moment things happen - you decide in seconds... like someone said I don't know who it was... boxing is the sport where sportsmanship and being a gentleman kills you - in Football it is ok... in soccer it is ok... cycling whatever... but boxing? A man is standing in front of you who is trained to hit and hurt you - and you want somebody who was just butted (and Ortiz tried at least twice before) and is in his zone to act like a gentleman or sportsmanship??? And again... it wasn't even illegal... of course you want to end a fight different and I would have liked to see it end differently... BOTH men punched all night directly with breaking the clinch... Mayweather after the hugg took his hands up and then he threw... Ortiz saw it... he was looking at him it's not like he was attacking him from behind...
Mayweather is a bad man in the ring - how he is supposed to... is somebody crying about Maidana throwing straight at Khan as both came out first round and Khan wanted to touch gloves - like a poster said before Ortiz did it as well with Berto... either you are there to win or not - the question is why Ortiz ain't came up??? Because he was happy - he quit - after the second round in his corner you could see it - in his eyes... he knew Floyd will hurt him... and he simply lost it... he tried in the 4th with everything he got but he couldn't touch Floyd and he lost it...
Ortiz doesn't have the mentality... a fighters knows that and Floyd knew it too with Ortiz - and Golden Boy knew it too - I mean if Ortiz should have been a big star why do you throw him in with Mayweather if he has no real experience in that class whatsoever... Golden Boy milked him... he was a good story... Ortiz still could beat a lot of good fighters... but Pacquiao or Mayweather... no way ever - you need a different mentality for it... Mayweather did what he supposed too...