Funny. Pac is so upset about JMM wearing a shirt that he wants to brutalize him. Yet, Mayweather makes racial slurs, and "falsely" accuses him of illegal PED use and Pac wants to take him to court.
I love this! Pacquiao's a retirement home bully!
Marquez wore that T-Shirt 3 years ago but Pacquiao ducked him. Pacquiao now wants to fight 39 yrs old Marquez and knock him out.
He wore that t-sHIRT after the Katsidis fight. ONEE year ago! 11/27/2010
Idiot... stop talking BS! :owned:
Everyone is talkin about Sergio m since he beat p Williams. All u fake supporters know nothin about him before hand, he won't beat a good boxer technician with a strong punch like golovkin or geale. Stop chasin the money (PAC &mayweather) and fight real middles
:damnit:Guardian you mean you want david to fight goliath? just for pac to loose? I think you didnt knew that when pac fight margarito with the catch weight of 150 lbs, pac only weighed at 144 lbs. Pac has nothing to do to increase his weight just to fight sergio. let sergio fight at his level at 160 or 170....:haha:
oh god, can you please get some common sense please. pac is a small guy compared to sergio . he walks arond 140 or so lbs. 12lbs out of 140 is about 9 % of pac's total body weight. sergio walks around 170 or so lbs, 10 lbs out of that is 5. 5 % of his total body weight. do you get the picture yet? all i wish form you is common sense but until you show me you have any , i dont think i should argue with you farther. get some common sense please, seriouslyit gets frustrating talking to an idiot for a while !
:haha:There u go again...twisting **** like usual. Dont try to twist this **** as if im supporting one of these fights. You here trying to say one fight is legit (Pac-Martinez) to make at 150 while saying the other is nearly insane (Pac-Marquez) to make at 140or below. Im not supporting any of these fights. My post have been clear. I dont support catchweights!! Not manny dropping that much in weight nor Martinez coming down either. I dont support either. You with me so far? My beef here is with YOU in supporting a fight with Pacquiao vs Martinez at 150 yet coming here and saying Pacquiao vs Marquez below 140 is unhealthy and un fair for Pacquiao. You sound like a big baby...Waaaaaa! Thats unfair for Pacquiao!!! :crying: Here is a lil bottle...:bottle:.cry me a river!! Thats the problem here. Thats the picture you have drawn up here and thats why I have questioned your post. Dont try to flip **** around with your common sense lines. did you get lost again?
really? pac didnt just avoid martinez after he just said hed fight him at 150lbs now that maravilla agrees pac very conviniently changes his mind to 147 a wt martinez would never make???pac AVOIDS anybody with even a slight chance of beating him hes far worse than even mayweather,just look at pacs opponent list, alll previously beaten and old farts coming off devastating losses, pac is the very essence of aovoiding the top guys, what he doesnt avoid is guys we ALLL know have no chance in hell of beating him.
Post a link where Pacquiao said he will fight martinez at 150.
do you know that CW has been around ever since? even henry arsmtrong has fought at CW. now, with cotto, he has fought at a full jmw bfore so he really does not need to demand a jmw CW, but he's dong it. LOL at neutral standpoint, more like a butthurt standpoint based on your post.
and no ariza is not my source, common sense is but to a buthurt nuthugger like you , i undertand the lack of common sense, tho i dont think i'll ever see myself in. move the fukk on, pac whopped cotto fair and square!
CW has been around for ever. It still doesnt mean its the right way to make a fight and to win or defend a title. You said it yourself...too much weight loss is un healthy. LOL. and 2nd, lets not bring up 1940's and try to compare in similarities with the sport then with it now. Unless you lived that era....you shouldnt be bringing it up either.
Common sense is your source huh? Pacquiao losing 12lbs to fight at LW is unhealthy & not fair and Martinez losing 10 and fighting at 150 is healthy and legit....good job boxing fan!!!!
Yes pacquiao wupped Cotto's ass. Have I denied it? You continue to bring this up as if its bugging me or had an effect in my life. are you running out of options? LOL. is that when you began to follow this sport? Keep it real kid and keep it neutral. Thats all I wish some of you on this forum would do. Its ok to have a favorite fighter, just no need to support and believe everything he does even when he is wrong in doing it. Thats the bottomline of this conversation. Take it easy...and if you wanna continue this convo, go ahead and hit me up with an inbox, this is quite entertaining for me to be honest.
stupid becuase you cant counter it. how the hell did ariza get in the convrsation is beyond me. i think youre just tryin to be smart ass tring to imply pac is juicing but if so, why just not say it and admit youre just a sore loser, butthurt of the cotto desruction. it's understandable.
again , martinez cant call the shots and he has called out cotto as well, why is cotto not fighting him ,he has fought at full jmw before?
i doubt you are fan of the sport first than a a cotto fan. coz if you are, you are not gonna compare cotto's 153 CW and pac's 150 the same. cotto has fought at full 154 , pac has not. nice try tho, and move on it has been two years since pac whopped cotto's @ss.
Counter to what? What did you say that's legit? What dont you understand about the catchweight issue i have with you that you so proudly support? I told you Cotto made a punk move in asking for a catchweight to margarito and Pacquiao has made punk moves in his last 2 titles he has won (vs Cotto & vs Margarito). Where does juicing come into play? I honestly think he is clean but im realizing you have a hard time figuring things out here and obviously trying to twist things and my words around.
My Ariza thing came to play cuz you trying to be some nutritious/health and conditioning expert in this thread and me knowing you a Pacquiao nutthugger, its only obvious for me to make the assumption that you heard it from someone in Pacquiao's camp. (im sorry if thats not your source). You talking about 10lb and 12lbs yet you probalbly have never laced them up to even know if your point is a fact.
LMAO! Butthurt over Cotto vs Pacquiao?? really? you had to reach out to that level? seriously...really? That was pretty lame and ignorant. I guess you have a hard time having a discussion with someone who sees things from a neutral standpoint. I can go on and off about Floyd too with his non sense too....but thats just a different thread at a different time and prolly with a different person.
I am just glad that the guys are willing to make the fight. The size disparity is huge and as a fan you have to respect Pacquiao for even considering it, even at 150lb.
It takes nuts to get in there with someone with the size, speed and that unorthodox Martinez style.
I don't blame either for trying to get an advantage.
lol, i coutered you with nothing but facts and logic. now , with the cotto stance, he has fought at full 154 before, now he is demanding a CW at jmw . it's 2 differnt scenarios, i hope atleast you understand that. and yes, you dont need to side with you fav fighter all the time.
What facts? you came up with a stupid opinion who you prolly got from Ariza. Not every boxers or human being's body functions the same to call your 10lb comparison to 12lb a fact. The whole point to all of this was your whole claim to Pacquiao being unhealthy and not fair if he fights below 140 Yet you support someone coming down from a higher weightclass to his cuz Pacquiao calls the shots. let me remind you that yes Pacquiao hasnt fought at 135 in 3 yrs but you fail to ignore Martinez hasnt fought 150 or below in nearly a decade!! Thats what this is about. You support Pacquiao making up his own weightclasses and all of his decisions no matter what. Thats nuthugging. Thats not a fan of this sport.
My Cotto scenario was from a fans standpoint.....Im a fan of the sport first, before im a fan of any fighters. Demanding a catchweight with a title on the line is a punk move period.
why is pac mad what the t shirt stated is only true, pac ate 38 more punches and lost at least 9 rounds in the second fight from where does he get he deserved that win??????I understand he scored a good knockdown but so what?what does that matter if pac was losing before and especially after that for the remainder of the fight.? if pacs gets his "revenge" still dont change the fact that JMM landed way more punches to pacs ugly mug in both fights and won the overalll majority of the rounds.this fight wont change history ,jmm spanked that ass twice despite suffering knockdowns as he just got up a whupped that midgets azz!!!!TWICE!
i hope they will not score it round by round this time, they should score it by punch connected throughout the fight...:baby:
thats ok man! dude, ww to lw is twon weighclaess apart , 12 lbs exaclty, pac has not fought there in more than 3 years. mw to jmw (150) is one weightclaess apart. now, it 's way harded for a smaller man to cut 12 bs than for a bigger man to cut 10 lbs, i hope you understand that , it's basicly common sense. and since it is martinez thats challenging pac and he has no leveage whatsoever , he has to give in to pac , not the other way around or else he can forgt about it.
second, he just said it's ok for him to fight at 150.
when pac fought barrera, peope was saying he was sayin he was too small for 126 given he was a 122 fighter prior to that, i hope you know that story atleast!
You dont need to try to counter me with a catchweight story. Your point is clear, if Manny demands it, then according to you, its good for boxing cuz manny calls the shots but yet if someone demands it for Pacquiao, its unhealthy and not fair. You dont need to go on with all these other stories...your point was made clearly. You support Manny at all cost. $hit, Im a huge Cotto fan and will call his "152" & "153" catchweight demand to margarito a punk move. Just becuz imma fan doesnt mean imma ride and side with every decision made and every damn thing that comes outta his mouth.
Also, there is at least 1 video interview on youtube where Pac states that "I will fight anybody at 150"..... well, Sergio is "anybody".
What Pac meant was..... "I will fight anybody at 150 as long as they are not a threat"
Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots. Leaduppercut is an idiot..