Its hard to believe how many people are buying into the Top Rank/HBO hype machine.
I just dont see how people are actually getting fired up and excited for this fight. How are you buying into the idea that you should pay over 50$ to see Pacquiao fight a guy who he's knocked down 4x in 2 fights, and a guy he already beat over 3 1/2 years ago? Manny Pacquiao could arguably be considered the #1 p4p boxer on the planet, so how do you justify him fighting JMM? A guy who is years past his prime, and who is fighting at a catch weight of about 10 lbs above his normal weight class of 135 lbs. A weight in which he already looked horrible at against Floyd Mayweather over 2 years ago. A weight in which he carries no power. A weight in which he got out boxed 12 rounds to 0 by Floyd. How is this a challenge to Pacquiao???
I understand a trilogy if JMM had won one of the 2 fights. But he couldnt beat Manny in 2004 when he was near his prime, and lost to him in 2008 when he was already declining and slowing down as a fighter. Since then Manny has been on a tear while JMM's best win came over Juan Diaz. Juan F'n Diaz. So a win over Juan Diaz and being shut down for 12 rounds against Floyd gets you a fight with Manny???
Top Rank is trash!
*Most of you guys prove my point that you literally are idiots. This thread has nothing what so ever to do with the amount of money one makes, being able to afford the PPV or not, or being a "true fan" of boxing. It has everything to do with not supporting boxing when it decides to go in the wrong direction. If Floyd announced tomorrow that he was fighting Mayorga ..... I wouldnt support it either. You guys dont get it. If Top Rank gets over 1 million PPV's by matching Manny vs JMM, then that's the kind of matches that you are going to keep getting out of Bob Arum. Why the hell would Top Rank ever match Manny Pacquiao against anyone who poses a threat to Manny ever again if they can get you to pay for matches vs. guys like Mosley or an old JMM? I hope you guys get the point now.
**Props to LittleMac. He seems to be the only member on this board who gets "it".
Thread has run it's course, and normally I would remove a bait thread like this, but I wanted the people who were going to buy it a chance to respond to the OP.
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for three years i roomed with a pinoy family from guam, one of the best experiences of my life. to think I was the one who introduced them to pacquiao because of my huge fight collection at the time donaire had just knocked out darchinyan when i moved in. but being around them, all the free food and the hospitality was great, its why i know the signifigance of these gatherings.
so for me, from a boxing perspective i think its meaningless and too late, but from a fan perspective i know what it truely means because i have lived around it and intergrated myself with the filipino culture and way of life.
nice to hear that integration bro, I am not really sure bro but I think Donaire now also bringing-in quite a number these type of filipino family gatherings when he fights...
and I could also see your point on both boxing and fan perspective, but I would just have to add that for us pinoy fans this fight although late is not quite meaningless, its closure to an epic rivalry and eventhough we think Pac will finally KO Marquez we also think that JuanMa will still give him problems while the fight last...
agreable post bro, most pinoy families in the states, if not all, will buy this an average of 5-10 people per home watching ...
for three years i roomed with a pinoy family from guam, one of the best experiences of my life. to think I was the one who introduced them to pacquiao because of my huge fight collection at the time donaire had just knocked out darchinyan when i moved in. but being around them, all the free food and the hospitality was great, its why i know the signifigance of these gatherings.
so for me, from a boxing perspective i think its meaningless and too late, but from a fan perspective i know what it truely means because i have lived around it and intergrated myself with the filipino culture and way of life.
Its hard to believe how many people are buying into the Top Rank/HBO hype machine.
I just dont see how people are actually getting fired up and excited for this fight. How are you buying into the idea that you should pay over 50$ to see Pacquiao fight a guy who he's knocked down 4x in 2 fights, and a guy he already beat over 3 1/2 years ago? Manny Pacquiao could arguably be considered the #1 p4p boxer on the planet, so how do you justify him fighting JMM? A guy who is years past his prime, and who is fighting at a catch weight of about 10 lbs above his normal weight class of 135 lbs. A weight in which he already looked horrible at against Floyd Mayweather over 2 years ago. A weight in which he carries no power. A weight in which he got out boxed 12 rounds to 0 by Floyd. How is this a challenge to Pacquiao???
I understand a trilogy if JMM had won one of the 2 fights. But he couldnt beat Manny in 2004 when he was near his prime, and lost to him in 2008 when he was already declining and slowing down as a fighter. Since then Manny has been on a tear while JMM's best win came over Juan Diaz. Juan F'n Diaz. So a win over Juan Diaz and being shut down for 12 rounds against Floyd gets you a fight with Manny???
Top Rank is trash!
*Most of you guys prove my point that you literally are idiots. This thread has nothing what so ever to do with the amount of money one makes, being able to afford the PPV or not, or being a "true fan" of boxing. It has everything to do with not supporting boxing when it decides to go in the wrong direction. If Floyd announced tomorrow that he was fighting Mayorga ..... I wouldnt support it either. You guys dont get it. If Top Rank gets over 1 million PPV's by matching Manny vs JMM, then that's the kind of matches that you are going to keep getting out of Bob Arum. Why the hell would Top Rank ever match Manny Pacquiao against anyone who poses a threat to Manny ever again if they can get you to pay for matches vs. guys like Mosley or an old JMM? I hope you guys get the point now.
**Props to LittleMac. He seems to be the only member on this board who gets "it". It'll be a hell of a lot better than the last 2 ppv's!!!!!!
I think it's actually $75 (for HD anyway). There's really no point in getting the regular show if you have HD. Hopefully I can get my money back by laying some money on Pacquiao.
this board is loaded with nothing but diehards on both sides of the spectrum for the top fighters, middle of the road threads just have no place, you might feel how you feel, but you are a bit harsh on those ordering it, some people just want to have a fun night with friends and family. for alot of pinoy fans, this is a cultural and family event.
i dont agree with the fight but its meaningful for others.
agreable post bro, most pinoy families in the states, if not all, will buy this an average of 5-10 people per home watching ...
Top Rank makes it suck to be a loyal boxing fan, really. You don't want to miss out on the "big" shows but they don't give you anything back in terms of undercards or 50-50 matchups.
I actually do feel a little stupid after buying their cards every time Pac fights.
The GBP card was expensive as hell, but at least it was a good card on paper.
IMHO in hind sight the main event will be better for this card ...
this board is loaded with nothing but diehards on both sides of the spectrum for the top fighters, middle of the road threads just have no place, you might feel how you feel, but you are a bit harsh on those ordering it, some people just want to have a fun night with friends and family. for alot of pinoy fans, this is a cultural and family event.
i dont agree with the fight but its meaningful for others.
Top Rank makes it suck to be a loyal boxing fan, really. You don't want to miss out on the "big" shows but they don't give you anything back in terms of undercards or 50-50 matchups.
I actually do feel a little stupid after buying their cards every time Pac fights.
The GBP card was expensive as hell, but at least it was a good card on paper.
Its hard to believe how many people are buying into the Top Rank/HBO hype machine.
I just dont see how people are actually getting fired up and excited for this fight. How are you buying into the idea that you should pay over 50$ to see Pacquiao fight a guy who he's knocked down 4x in 2 fights, and a guy he already beat over 3 1/2 years ago? Manny Pacquiao could arguably be considered the #1 p4p boxer on the planet, so how do you justify him fighting JMM? A guy who is years past his prime, and who is fighting at a catch weight of about 10 lbs above his normal weight class of 135 lbs. A weight in which he already looked horrible at against Floyd Mayweather over 2 years ago. A weight in which he carries no power. A weight in which he got out boxed 12 rounds to 0 by Floyd. How is this a challenge to Pacquiao???
I understand a trilogy if JMM had won one of the 2 fights. But he couldnt beat Manny in 2004 when he was near his prime, and lost to him in 2008 when he was already declining and slowing down as a fighter. Since then Manny has been on a tear while JMM's best win came over Juan Diaz. Juan F'n Diaz. So a win over Juan Diaz and being shut down for 12 rounds against Floyd gets you a fight with Manny???
Top Rank is trash!
*Most of you guys prove my point that you literally are idiots. This thread has nothing what so ever to do with the amount of money one makes, being able to afford the PPV or not, or being a "true fan" of boxing. It has everything to do with not supporting boxing when it decides to go in the wrong direction. If Floyd announced tomorrow that he was fighting Mayorga ..... I wouldnt support it either. You guys dont get it. If Top Rank gets over 1 million PPV's by matching Manny vs JMM, then that's the kind of matches that you are going to keep getting out of Bob Arum. Why the hell would Top Rank ever match Manny Pacquiao against anyone who poses a threat to Manny ever again if they can get you to pay for matches vs. guys like Mosley or an old JMM? I hope you guys get the point now.
**Props to LittleMac. He seems to be the only member on this board who gets "it".
am i an idiot because i pay merely 60 bucks for third and final fight of the great trilogy???
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did you buy floyd's last fight?*
No I didn't and if you read my previous post I already stated that I would never pay for any boxing match..I have the money but I also have a sports bar around the corner which airs it for free..why pay??
Jmm vs pac is a bullsh** fight..the fight should of happened years ago..now all of a sudden pac feels that he has to shut marquez up..why didn't he shut him up before he moved up in weight?? Catch weight is no good!!!
Exactly. For years Marquez called him out, while Manny stayed around the 135-140 weight class. And repeatedly Manny and Freddie Roach said they would not give Marquez the 3rd fight, that hey had beat him, JMM didnt deserve another shot at Manny and so on. Only now that JMM is slowing down, and Manny is fighting at full Welterweight, and after seeing how easily Floyd was able to beat him. Now all of the sudden they give the 39 year old Marquez a rematch at a catch weight in which he absolutely brings no power what so ever.
did u bought floyds last fight??? seriously 70 bucks for a suckered punched climactic ending? :lol1:
did you buy floyd's last fight?*
No I didn't and if you read my previous post I already stated that I would never pay for any boxing match..I have the money but I also have a sports bar around the corner which airs it for free..why pay??
Jmm vs pac is a bullsh** fight..the fight should of happened years ago..now all of a sudden pac feels that he has to shut marquez up..why didn't he shut him up before he moved up in weight?? Catch weight is no good!!!
Whoever pays for this fight is doing arum a favor..if you're a pac fan you better of putting those 60$ in an envelope and send it to pac via mail because at least that way arum won't be able to take the 30% he always takes from pac.
What Country you from?? Because you don't make any gah damn sense boy...fu** paying for any fight..why pay 60 or 70$ for a fight if I can go to a sports bar 5 minutes away from my House and watch it for free on 6 different motherfu**ing screens...it's bad paying for any fight you better off buying yourself a shirt or even giving it to charity...but the truth is that the pac vs jmm fight is meaningless and only an idiot would pay to watch it..
Bob arum is getting rich because idiots pay for it..and we already know who's gonna win ..what's the point in paying for a fight if you know who's gonna win(arum is the only winner here)??? And even tho pac is doing the fighting ..arum is the one who's gonna make the most..top rank vs top rank else bob won't be a part of it ..the money stays in the house and he has the nerves to take the 30% FROM PACS PURSE LOL
did u bought floyds last fight??? seriously 70 bucks for a suckered punched climactic ending? :lol1:
Pac is so good that most boxing fans think that he is running out of opponents..some guys dont want to see Pac because they think there's no chance he would lose..thats how good Manny really is. i would definitely pay to see Pac fight
Let me ask you a honest question here.. When was the last time Manny fought a LEGIT opponent at there TRUE WEIGHT class?
Mosley Legit at this age looking like shlt in his previous fight? NO
Cheato Legit coming off getting KO'd and year suspention? NO
Clottey Legit coming off a loss to Cotto with one eye? NO
Cotto Legit at his true weight? NO
Rickey Hatton Legit coming off getting KO'd by Floyd and looking like shlt in his comeback fight? NO
DeLaHoya Legit at his true weight and age? NO
And now Marquez at his true weight? NO
Why would I wana support the garbage thats going on here with Manny and Bob Arum? I would have POSSIBLY bought this Manny/Marquez fight if it was at 140, at 144 is an easy pass.
lol it doesn't even matter - pac haters and people who live vicariously through floyd ONT EVEN BUY FLOYD'S FIGHTS! too poor. . . won't recognize that it was foolish to pay 70 damn dollars for a floyd fight. . . lol even thought they didn't pay. ..
What Country you from?? Because you don't make any gah damn sense boy...fu** paying for any fight..why pay 60 or 70$ for a fight if I can go to a sports bar 5 minutes away from my House and watch it for free on 6 different motherfu**ing screens...it's bad paying for any fight you better off buying yourself a shirt or even giving it to charity...but the truth is that the pac vs jmm fight is meaningless and only an idiot would pay to watch it..
Bob arum is getting rich because idiots pay for it..and we already know who's gonna win ..what's the point in paying for a fight if you know who's gonna win(arum is the only winner here)??? And even tho pac is doing the fighting ..arum is the one who's gonna make the most..top rank vs top rank else bob won't be a part of it ..the money stays in the house and he has the nerves to take the 30% FROM PACS PURSE LOL
If those buying Pacquiao vs Marquez III are going to be idiots, then what does that make those who bought Hopkins vs Dawson?
real boxing fans :theyareon
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No you are fool and Pac hater. You just want Pac ppv buys dont exceed vs Floyd-Ortiz ppv buys. Now get a life.
LOL....Please don't think you can bate me into your fanboy argument. Only chearleading fangirl groupies would come up with the argument your trying to make lol...Below is a post I made regarding Floyd VS Ortiz.
Am not paying for this fight out of principle. This fight is not ppv worthie!!! Boxing is cashing out on idiots who pay for sh!t like this. Don't get me wrong, its a proper fight, but should be on HBO championship boxing. Froch VS Ward is more ppv caliber and its free.
If those buying Pacquiao vs Marquez III are going to be idiots, then what does that make those who bought Hopkins vs Dawson?
real boxing fans :theyareon