Celtic_Warrior

I'm not sure why there is a debate on this, I am a neutral and had Cotto winning by two or three rounds. Mosely did well but was definitely beaten.

Don't think there is much doubt about his ability really, his desire has been questioned though. To take the Lacy and Kessler fights tells me different though, Lacy as Joe said was easy but it didn't look that way before the fight and Kessler will be tricky no doubt. I feel it would have been easier for Joe to have taken say a lucrative Roy Jones fight or perhaps a Hopkins, as a loss to either of those would have only proven what some thought whereas many expect him to beat the dangerous Kessler but....this shows desire to me, desire to claim the division and fight the prime champion about. Bang on Micky. Some of our American friends(and Euros') on here would only judge Joe based on the name of the fighter he was fighting i.e. RJJ, Hopkins, Wright etc but this in reality would prove nothing now. If Joe beats Kessler who is obviously in his prime when Joe is obviously not surely the doubters must hold their hands up and say 'Yep he was a great Champion'?

He's just an average decent bloke, hence he still lives in his village etc. I would like to see him fight his last couple (win or lose against Kessler) in the States just so he can make his money before he retires. I think that's why he hasn't really had the fame and adulation that he deserves, he is content to live in Welsh Valley's and couldn't care less really what people think of him. There is no doubt in my mind that he is one of the greatest boxers of his generation and I would put him in the class of Hopkins, Jones and Mayweather. That's my opinion.

Ha ha OK. This is such a reputable source that they cannot even spell 'Britain' correctly.

lol wow Ricky is gonna get his ass kicked lol that shit was funny "This is abnormal" indeed. After that I don't even think he can beat Pacqiou. Zab Should fight Ricky Hatton after this one...get hima belt or some shit What in that video led you to believe that??? 6rds sparring, 6rds bar and weight session plus night running six weeks out??? His methods may be unusual but no one can say he is not one of the fittest fighters about.

I like what he said about Louis and the fact that he wants two more big fights before he retires. Nice vid, didn't catch inside sport this week.

First time poster on here. If the likes of Mike McCallum, Barry McGuigan, Eusabio Pedrosa and Jeff Fenech etc (all good fighters though) can be indited then Naseem Hamed must be in there. He may not be in the class of some but he was one of the best fighters of his generation and was only beaten by a great in Barrera.

I think some people seem threatened by criticism of a fighter they like, so they go on the attack. I can understand that but scrolling through this site there seems to be dozens of threads dedicated to attacking a certain fighter? Everyone has an opinion but there is no rationale behind it?

thank you a bit of common sense have you got any spare for SnoopySmurf Cheers. I think people forget just how good he was for a time. They seem to focus on his personality rather than his ability. Lets face it, there have been very few harder or faster punchers pound for pound than him.

Herbie Hide? Did well for about 3 minutes against Bowe. On his recent return he was KO'd 5 times!

Surprised Bruno isn't on that list? He may not have had the skills of many but he certainly had the power.

Thanks for that, I recall the McCrory KO vividly as I was at ringside. He was a bit of local hero around where I grew up and to see him him taken out like that sticks in the mind.

he hit larry holmes , holmes couldnt get up anymore, shavers hit holmes, holmes got up... Holmes was an old man in boxing terms by the time he fought Tyson. There is no comparison to be made here. Tyson was a big puncher but certainly not the biggest in Heavyweight History, I don't think his power was overrated its just that when he made his seconding coming he had lost some of the snap.

Some interesting comments. I'm not qualified to say whether the site is instigating these discussions but I will say why are they letting so many of the same type of threads run concurrently? Other similar sites wouldn't allow this to happen?

Personally I have no problem with criticism of a fighter I am a fan of.Alot of things said are outlandish and are just made to discredit people that work hard for the positions they are in and people take some things WAY to seriously. Can't we have an educated debate without someone calling someone else a nuthugger or a hater or a ? That my whole point. In the majority of the threads I have read, posted in the last few weeks they seem to lead the argument so that it starts with 'hate'. For example I wont name names but one thread was named 'Ricky Hatton just soiled himself' another was 'Ricky Hatton Guiness.... and Greed' There are many many more.

This is an interesting fight. Kessler should not be underestimated as he is an excellent box fighter with good hand speed and skills but I feel Calzaghe will view this in a similar way to the Lacy fight especially if these quotes from Kessler are true and come in fit and prepared. If he does Calzaghe will win by a comfortable UD. Many will state that Calzaghe is overrated and has never really fought anyone which could be true but a fit and motivated Calzaghe is a different animal to the one that fought say a Kabary Salem (even though he still won by almost a shut out) Look at his record, even when he has fought poorly he has still won by big margins, the most controversial win over Reid by SD had two of the judges giving it to JC by 5 rounds (the other to Reid) he has rarely been stretched and if he's is motivated then it usually spells trouble for his opponent. I perdict a Calzaghe UD by 5 rounds.

Hatton is humble and will accept defeat (should it come) with dignity, after all its only one fight!

With fighters like Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collins, Lindell Holmes and Gerald McClellan etc plying their trade around the Super Middle divison and others who have fought through the division and moved on i.e. Roy Jones and James Toney. Is Calzaghe the greatest actual Super Middle of them all? 21 defences, unbeaten and still going strong at almost 36. He has fought and beaten a number of former World Champions in: Eubank - WBO + WBC Reid - WBF, WBC and IBO Woodhall - WBC Brewer - IBF Mitchell - WBA Veit - WBC And he has fought and defeated two prime World Champions in Lacy and Kessler. Therefore seriously has there ever been a better Super Middleweight, if so why? A couple of years back his record although impressive lacked a vital ingredient i.e. a prime and dangerous current Champion. Since then he has added two of these to his resume, that in itself doesn't tell the whole story though because he absolutely dominated Lacy and was a class above him, with Kessler once again he showed that he has unbelievable ability but add that to the fact he showed fabulous fitness, stamina and speed given the fact that he is almost 36 years of age. He is easily the greatest Super Middle of all time in my book. Yes Toney and Jones boxed in this division but they moved through, Joe has cleared out the division.

Nigel Benn is I used to think this was the case but no longer. Benn IMO opinion struggled with box fighters i.e. Watson, Eubank and Collins Calzaghe would outbox him.

Here is the reason why he is on my P4P list He IS the Middleweight champion All but 3 fights ended by KO/TKO (last 9 in a row) Yes He did Beat the man, who beat the man. But not did he just beat him, he KhimTFO. He won his last two fights for the championship by a KO, going in as a big underdog Iron Chin One of the hardest P4P punch Is there anyone at middleweight that beat him? I see your point and they would be valid in my eyes if: He had defended his titles at least once. He had beaten one of the other champions in the division i.e. Abraham He had dominated the fight with Taylor, as I saw and as the judges did I believe he was losing the fight. In essence he is a puncher who has his two biggest wins because of his power, how does that make him a P4P top ten fighter? Surely fighters who are proven in Championship fight after Championship fight should be ahead of him, fighters like: Mayweather Calzaghe Hopkins Cotto Mosely Israel Vazquez Pacquiao Juan Diaz Hatton Juan Manuel Marquez Wladimir Klitschko Even Mikkel Kessler IMO deserves to be ahead of him simply because he was a reigning multi belt World Champion. Thats not to say that Pavlik wont be in there but surely he hasn't done anywhere near enough yet?

What bearing do you think this has on the legacy of Roy Jones??? I don't know how much of this truth or fiction therefore I wont comment but...I still cannot see even a prime Roy Jones dominating a prime Calzaghe. Calzaghe before his well documented hand problems was a real banger too and that fight in my opinion could have swung either way. Calzaghe work rate would have troubled Jones whilst Jones's timing would have troubled JC.

Hatton's strongest weight is obviously 140, they are both busy fighters so I would give Hatton's strength the edge and could a late stoppage.

His punches are unorthodox but there clean. As for Manfredo, is his punches were so amateurish them why didn't he throw back??? He left the referee with no option but to stop the fight, by the letter of the law.

I'm a huge fan of SSM and haven't watched too much of Cotto. These numbers don't tell the true story of the fight otherwise we wouldn't have judges would we? Cotto definitely won this fight.

Nope. Enzo walks around at around 204lb and that's his limit. He stated last night that he has no plans to fights at Heavyweight in the immediate future. Haye walks around at around 220 lbs and stated that he can longer make the Cruiserweight limit. Enzo stated that he will not fight at catch weight because he would be at too much of a disadvantage therefore this fight will not happen. This is not hearsay, this is based on what was said last night by both fighters.

Of course, he was anyway.

I wish people would stop giving respect to Toney for what he used to do. He got absolutely outclassed by Roy Jones then beaten by Griffin. His answer to those loses, more food and steroids. End result, a decent very fat 'heavyweight' in a poor era of the division. No will power and a cheat with no class. To call a guy like Calzaghe a bum is classless and actually points the finger back at Toney who didn't have the desire or will power to attempt to become the best in his division.

The floor to ceiling bag work is immpressive. What I like about Calzaghe is that he still trains in that little ramshackle gym and runs the mountains of South Wales. Also noted that he doesn't seem to be slapping either like many on here accuse him of.

IBF/IBO WORLD CHAMPION!! http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2008/04/13/woods372.jpg Lol. Gavin Rees was WBA Champion, it doesn't mean he was any good!

Not sure how Gomez even got the shot. Cotto should be fighting the likes of Mayweather not a wannabe reality TV star. (Waste of time as it was with Calzaghe v Manfredo)