Brinkley doing good right now..at first I was concerned..
Serrano was okay..for a younger, fresher guy I expected more..
But I can say that Im glad Warrior did as good as he did..
hes been inactive for 3 years and drained himself to 147 with only a month notice of this fight...so I give him props on that alone(maybe a little bias too!)
lol..but so far its been a decent show of fights
LMAO at all you idiots comparing Arturi "punching Bag" Gatti to SSM
hahaaha
where did anyone compare shane to gatti?
lol..thats what I was wondering..did anyone even mention Mosleys name?!..lol
:rofl: Epic..... They was still hating back then.
LOL
This thread is classic
lmao...even now, I laugh at threads like these..
four years from now all those current "so and so will knock Mayweather out" threads will be funny then too...
I wouldn't have watched it coz it will be a dirty fight. Mayweather back then didn't demand OST. I only watch clean fights like the one coming on May 1.
Im guessing you didnt watch the fight that took place on March 13 then..lmao
its crazy how times went from
"pac is fighting small, old featherweights. if he moves up to ww he would get his ass kicked by margarito, mosley, cotto"
"he would be a midget to the ww's, no way pacquiao ever moves up"
to
"pac is cherry picking opponents. martigarito is garbage, cotto is coming off a beating, mosley is only there for the paycheck"
"pac is on something, how can he gain so much weight in 10 months. thats 12 lbs of lean muscle, he's on something"
im just gonna sit back and enjoy the show. this is comedy :popcorn:
GTFOH...he faced those names at an entirely different time line.
He didn't face them coming off some impressive win..cotto was damaged by a cheat..Marg was KOd by Mosley...and coming off that win..Pac and Roach blatantly ducked him..until Floyd schooled him...you have to factor in the time and circumstances.
Because those were years he could've fought Cotto, Marg and Williams in their prime.
Baldo - November 2006 - Welterweight
Judah - April 2006 - Welterweight
Oscar - May 2007 - JMW
Hatton - December 2007 - JWW - Hatton was not Top 10 at Welterweight.
Marquez - September 2009 - Lightweight
Mosley - May 2010 - Welterweight
That's 2 WW's in 3 years and 6 months to be exact.
2 Welterweights when you had Cotto, Williams and Margarito waiting in the shadows.
Ok, you want to play this game?
Pac fought Hatton when Hatton was #10 P4P and in his right division at 140 when he was #1, not at 147 where he wasn't even ranked.
Pac fought Cotto when he was P4P #8 and the #2 WW.
Pac fought Marquez in 2008 when he was P4P #3 and was #2 Jr Lightweight
Pac fought Clottey when he was the #4 WW
Pac fought Marg for the 154 lb title, get this, for his 8th weight class.
Pac fought Mosley when he was the #5 WW.
Pac fought Marquez when he was the champ at Lightweight, just as Floyd had done and was #4 P4P.
Pac beat Bradley when he was #3 P4P and #1 WW in 2014
Pac fought Bradley again when he was the #4 WW
And get this? Pac and Cotto did it WITHOUT 2 1/2 year retirements.
Cotto fought Marg when he was #4 WW
Cotto fought Judah when he was #4 WW
Cotto fought Mosley when he was #3 WW
Cotto fought Clottey when he was #4 WW
Cotto fought Pac when he was #5 WW and #1 P4P
That's 5 Top 10 WW's and 1 P4P fighter while Floyd was get this... retired. That's 5 Top 10 WW's in 3 years, with Floyd only fighting 2 Top 10 WW's in 3 years.
Let's keep going:
Cotto fought Foreman while he was #7 JMW and won the WBA.
Cotto fought Martinez while he was the #1 MW champ and #5 P4P
Cotto fought Geale while he was the #4 MW
That's 8 Top 10 fighters covering 4 different weight classes with NO RETIREMENTS
...but this list is so flawed...so just to be clear, you're not giving Floyd credit for fighting the champ Baldo...because he was, well...Baldo..
But you're giving credit for Clottey?
And..you're giving credit to Pac for fighting these guys at a catch weight, and earning a title in the divisions along the way for it?! 😂
How about this...post a list of Pacs resume that doesn't include wins/titles at catch weights that purposely drained them..
That takes away majority of your list automatically.
If you can't do that, then don't discredit Floyd fighting a "JWW Hatton" ..because it's a logical fallacy!
Also...you're listing opponents Cotto fought,but didn't win against..
So you get credit for losing now?
I see you are giving credit to Pac fighting guys coming off of devastating losses..tsk tsk
Revise your list to mention only wins...with no catch weight for both fighters.
lol..youre an idiot..hes not doing hard time in prison..hes going to JAIL..lol..he's gonna have to spend time with the snitches, rats, child molesters, pedophiles, and other rapists..
If you can't get Pac. Because, Pac doesn't want to man up and duck him. Then go offer Macklin some step aside money and make a fight with Martinez at whatever weight.
Or don't even postpone your jail sentence and just go to jail.
But, Cotto has a fan base and they like anything Cotto does. Floyd has a fan base and they like anything Floyd does. So it is what it is.
So your choices are Pac, if he mans up..Martinez at any weight..or go to jail?!...well we know Pac is ducking..we know Floyds not going to jail until June..and Martinez isnt happening..and at "whatever" weight, Floyd gets no credit for that fight..so I guess with that, youre saying he should fight no one..??
truth is, with your boy ducking..the Cotto fight is the best option right now...sure, Floyd will eat Cotto up..he wouldve ate him up in 07/08..and he defintely eats him up at this stage.
sad that Pac is getting taken advantage of like that. I hope he educates himself on his finances..because he is getting raped!..I thought it was strange when he hired a finance company to look into his money..now his purse earnings are coming out and its that low..
he deserves more money than that..as far as 50/50 goes..while I think it should be that to make the fight happen..I must say it didnt help when Pac ran off at the mouth offering to take a lesser split to make the fight happen(only to back peddle)..hopefully they can agree on 50/50 to get it going!
poster is obviously trolling..defeating Timmy now makes you GOAT :lol1:
also..Pac's last fight didnt show he was on the decline..it just reminded everyone hes still the one dimensional fighter Roach supposedly cured by fighting tailor made opponents!
Why is the thread title a quote from Mayweather when the thread is about a fan asking a question to Dan Rafael?
What's next?
Fan : Is Pacquaio gay?
Dan Rafael : I don't know, maybe?
Thread: Pacquaio : "I'm gay".
lol :lol1:
We all know that pac is a little dude.. who has stretched himself to 7 divisions. as good as his win with margarito he had a ton of pain inflicted in him.
He and roach has said they are sticking to his real fighting weight 147lbs for now on. The dude is 5'5" feet tall.
Pac and Roach has consistently said pac is sticking to 147.
While Floyd who really is a bigger guy, who now is ready to fight a slow bloated old 154 cotto. means he can fight the bigger guys now. He can now surely fight sergio for 154 next. No excuses if Floyd ducks sergio @ 154 ;)
but didnt Pac fight a bloated old 154 Marg(who wasnt ranked, for a vacant title)..,,shouldnt he have fought Sergio next..he said he would at 150, but when Sergio agreed..he changed it to 147..then instead, fought JMM(getting his arse kicked).that was a blatant duck of Sergio...he can fight him next..if Pac doesnt fight Sergio at 154..hes ducking!
is that how that works!!!
Why, he's fighting Cotto at a full 154.
yes, but Floyd will not come in at a full 154..hes okay with Cotto rehydrating, because hes much smaller than Martinez..but Martinez would rehydrate to a much heavier weight..he would be giving up way too much weight at 154..
Sergio needs to take on the fights in his division..and stop calling out smaller fighters..but skill wise..Floyd would make Sergio look oh so ordinary..Sergio keeps his hands down(no, not just when hes comfortable, he always does it!)
thats how he trains..thats his style..and Floyd would make him pay for it!
to answer the TS..NO!..not at this point..but Floyds getting older everyday..
He doesn't want Floyd and never has. Roach let this slip in a way a while back when he said he wante, but he just "needs Manny to see what i see."
And if that's not clear enough, just look at how they have sducked him here and during the first negotiation.
Pac STANS will NEVER accept this.
change the green overlay color that you have on Pac...make it more yellow/orange..and have it blend into the color on Timmy more..that hard edge from the two colors is way too much..it needs to be feathered out..but it looks good
Like I said up for debate.
Fighter A 15 wins -0 losses no belt versus Fighter B 2 wins-0 losses but won a belt.
this is how I know you boxrec'd it..stop it!
you should be ashamed of yourself to say Timmy had 15 fights at welter..and had most of his career fights there. and are you saying he looked good there too?
What wrong with looking at boxrec to prove my point? Bradley is not new to welterweight is the point I'm trying to explain. And it's way better than Hatton's experience at Welter.
but thats the problem with boxrec..and when people rely on that for info.
he really didnt have 15 fights at welter...and he didnt face top oppositon at 147..Hatton faced better opposition at 147 than Bradley ever has.
hence why Hatton loss..if Hatton had faced the fighters Bradley faced at 147, he wouldve still been undefeated, but he faced Floyd Mayweather..
Timmy is not his best at 147..Im not saying this isnt a good fight. it is. but hes not as good at 147.