intresting. i hate that pac is getting ripped off the way he is
same here...I try not to get caught up in the money debates...thats just not my thing...to argue ANOTHER man's worth....but I can't help but HATE Arum and Koncz with a passion....they don't give a dam about Manny or his ppl.....they're USING him and his power of influence on the Pinoys to get richer and richer......Mr. Haymon was god sent for the African American fighters because DK was devil sent lol....dudes like Paul Williams, Jermain Taylor and Floyd...just to name a few...are doing really well as far as money goes....Mr. Koncz is not a REAL advisor....he's working for Arum NOT Manny....its obvious!!
The guarantee only comes into effect if the fighter earns less than the guaranted amount.
So really it is in no way an indication of who earns more.
Also you have to remember that Floyd writes himself a cheque for his guarantee so really he's got $0 guaranteed.
yup.....pac earned 22 mil vs jmm 3..
...floyd earned 25 mil vs jmm..
these numebrs came from credible sources, not fighthype.com...
I think it is funny as heck that people believe that Pac only made 6 million for the JMM 3 fight. JMM made like 5 million for that fight, so you know that Pac made at least 3 times that.
Whoever doesn't think this fight should be a 50/50 split down the middle Is just plain ignorant! If Floyd refuses on 50/50 and this is the reason this fight doesn't get made, he is plain wrong and pearly doesn't want this fight!
I don't blame Pacquiao for walking away and telling Floyd to F*CK off! If this fight doesn't get made, it's on Floyd!
There's an extra dimension to it.
It seems Mayweather is now responsible for making up for what Arum should have done for his fighter.
Pac's not being payed as a top tier fighter and his last fight took some luster off the superfight. And he sued Floyd instead of just doing the OST and shutting everyone up. And you also have May feeling like his name was used as a promotional tool with the double talk interest in a fight by Arum, Roach, Manny, etc.
I'm thinking, Floyd genuinely thinks Manny doesn't deserve to make what he has after May put all the work in to do so for superfight money and Pac let's himself get treated like he's in a child labor camp. Floyd's definitely on that superiority tip and.. well, if that were me I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing in a bitter rivalry. Let me make that clear, a bitter rivalry, and it would be the exception in being a shrewd businessman (for me anyway). Those two owe each other no favors the way they go at each other.
If the fight doesn't get done the way it is, I'm not mad because I think something like the above is what floats around in May's head. I'm pretty sure it's more politics than any fear factor at this point.
The sad part is, on a fairness standpoint Manny does deserve 50/50. After following all this over the last couple of years this should be a lesson for fighters not to get into competitive one-upmanship with rivals without fighting them. Manny's in a position where he almost needs this fight because of Arum, but there's such bad blood between him and Floyd's side, negotiations are hostile.
And if you hit, say 40K no one will be able to dispute you if you say you hit 140K. That's exactly what the Mayweather mouth projects to me. As for Manny and his $6 mill guarantee, I really doubt it. He was the 6th top athlete earner a year or two ago in Forbes, and surely hasn't earned less since, but more, as he's getting more sponsors.
Nobody really knows what the financial details for these top stars are. We hear all sorts of speculative rumours, thrown around by both crazies and writers, with no real merit.
yup.....pac earned 22 mil vs jmm 3..
...floyd earned 25 mil vs jmm..
these numebrs came from credible sources, not fighthype.com...
No, it's not weird. Pac is generating close to floyd's revenue. The fact that he only keeps about a third of what Floyd keeps is down to his poor business arrangements.
wow, you said something smart, thats the first!.....
The fight made 55 million in ppv.
You do realise that tv companies take a big chunk out of it right?
I highly doubt Floyd made 40 mil.
he did'nt....it was not possible for floyd to have had earned 40 mil out of that number...it's just that floyd exagerartes his numbers a lot, and his fans buy it...
Just weird to see people saying Pac deserves 50-50 with Floyd when Floyd made over 3 times more guarantee fighting Mosley then Pacquiao did fighting Shane.
No, it's not weird. Pac is generating close to floyd's revenue. The fact that he only keeps about a third of what Floyd keeps is down to his poor business arrangements.
You know, with all this talk about Manny being severely underpaid. Manny and his brain-dead fans should actually thank Mayweather for bringing it to the forefront. The more Arum gets exposed the better for everyone.
sad that Pac is getting taken advantage of like that. I hope he educates himself on his finances..because he is getting raped!..I thought it was strange when he hired a finance company to look into his money..now his purse earnings are coming out and its that low..
he deserves more money than that..as far as 50/50 goes..while I think it should be that to make the fight happen..I must say it didnt help when Pac ran off at the mouth offering to take a lesser split to make the fight happen(only to back peddle)..hopefully they can agree on 50/50 to get it going!
I don't see what Pac does with his money is a problem to some of these peps. Floyd can keep all the 50% of his money, what Pac does to his is his own business...he can give it all to Arum and nobody would care. But just be fair and split it down the middle and what you do with your is your own business.
^^^ PERIOD.
Why is Floyd concerned with what Manny take home pay? Has he ever been concerned about his other 40 plus opponents' take home pay? Is he starting petitions for better wages for fighters? He sure as hell ain't starting one for better drug testing. STOP BEING A BEITCH FLOYD! Take your half, make it rain or whatever you want to do and mind your muthafuc#in BUSINESS!!
It's really not weird to ask for 50/50 when they're pulling the same type of revenue.Manny wants his check to look like Floyd's, that's not Floyd's concern.
Mannys check will never look like Floyd's, Bob will never let that happen.
A guarantee? Er Floyd promotes himself, he can guarantee any figure he wants to.
I can guarantee myself 80k, if I don't hit that, well I aint gonna sue myself am I.
And if you hit, say 40K no one will be able to dispute you if you say you hit 140K. That's exactly what the Mayweather mouth projects to me. As for Manny and his $6 mill guarantee, I really doubt it. He was the 6th top athlete earner a year or two ago in Forbes, and surely hasn't earned less since, but more, as he's getting more sponsors.
Nobody really knows what the financial details for these top stars are. We hear all sorts of speculative rumours, thrown around by both crazies and writers, with no real merit.
i think It should be 50-50 but floyd does deserve a bigger cut.
Right....:lol1:
Mr. I need to fight on Mexican Holiday and stack the cards with Mexicans to boost the PPV :lol1:. And if the fight tickets aren't selling well we will add a free room, free buffet for 2, and a limo ride if we're desperate :lol1:.
Because, Floyd doesn't have a promote...He promote everything so he takes home. And, Pac might very well is getting screwed by Arum. Doesn't mean that Pac doesn't pull the similar type of revenue as Floyd. The revenue that Pac pulls is enough for the fight to be 50/50 and it would be fair.
i think It should be 50-50 but floyd does deserve a bigger cut.
floyd earned 25 mil vs jmm
pac earned 22 mil vs jmm ...
50/50 or fukk the guy that asks more....
Don't forget the free room, free buffet, and free limo ride when you purchased a fight ticket during the Mayweather vs Marquez :lol1:.
floyd earned 25 mil vs jmm
pac earned 22 mil vs jmm ...
50/50 or fukk the guy that asks more....
theres reports for that financial year floyd took home 100m, 60m from the mosely fight and 40m from jmm = nearly double how much manny made