TRUE or FALSE: If COTTO BEATS floyd, he BECOMES second greatest of our time.

False. We never really agree on a fighters legacy until they retired anyways so who know how we will feel until it's all said and done. And this question seems like you think Pac is number 1 to begin with which is hilarious!!:boxing:

wait..If Pac is the greatest of our era, what does that make JMM who schooled him 3x? going off your logic.... JMM, THE GREATEST OF OUR ERA. damn why you gotta bring up JMM schooling back into this :thumbsdow

every fighter cherry picks. Its a non-stoppable debate. Floyds been cherry picking since he turn pro. See what i mean. Its all matter of opinion. A lightweight fighting WW and SWW and beating them convincingly destroying them and breaking them down is enough. Cherry pick and leftovers are the two most used terms by the bias haters or fans of both guys. It's bulls**t. People will say that Floyd cherry picked Ortiz, which was NOT a cherry pick at all, but then claim that Pac fighting Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley when he did was legit. It's insane. One could argue that Floyd's WW resume is better than Pac's, and even Jro said the same thing. Floyd's WW resume: Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz. Pac's WW resume: De La Hoya, Cotto, Clottey, Mosley, Marquez. Both fought Marquez at 144, but Floyd beat him in a shutout and Pac arguably lost. 1-0 Floyd. Both fought Mosley, but Floyd fought him coming off KO wins over Mayorga and Marg, and when he was #9 P4P. Pac fought him coming off the loss and what should have been another loss to Sergio Mora. 2-0 Floyd. Pac fought Cotto and is his best win at 147, so he gets an automatic +1 for that. 2-1 Floyd. Than, that leaves Floyd with Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, and Ortiz, and Pac with Clottey and De La Hoya....... How some people can argue that G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, De La Hoya, Hatton, Mosley, and Ortiz were cherry picks.....that's beyond me. The only time Floyd fought a big fight against someone coming off a big loss was a prime Zab Judah, who had lost in an upset to Baldomir. How some people can say Floyd cherry picked Oscar at 154 lbs, but then give Manny credit for fighting him at 145 lbs, where he hadn't been in 7-8 years, it's beyond me. Anyways, both have good resumes and are ATG's.

sure it can. Compare resumes between Pac and May.... The End Both have good resumes, and Pac's resume is overrated by some of the delusional fans of his, and Floyd's is uderrated by the delusional fans of his. Both have good resumes, only the bias haters of both can argue that. I have always laughed hard at the Pac fans who say "Floyd's resume is a C at best".....it's just ignorant. If Floyd has a C resume, than Cotto has a D or F resume right?????? Floyd was viewed as the greater fighter from 2000-2007. Only when Floyd retired and Pac went on his run in 2008-2009 when Floyd was retired did people start saying he's better All-Time than Floyd. I have both May and Pac aorund Top 30 ATG, based on career resume, era, skills, all together. Only when they fight each other, or unless one of them goes on to beat Sergio Martinez or something, will they truly seperate themselves from the other.

Hardly 2nd best. Maybe lock in the HOF'er status. He would need more than floyd to reach best or 2nd best of out era/time.. I agree with the Manny rematch. Maybe beat a few of the young guns...

If he beats him convincingly, then he's up there as a modern era great and one of Puerto Rico's best ever. But idk if he goes to second.

I don't know what you mean our time, last 10 years, last 20 years? In my lifetime, the greatest fighters have been Roy Jones Jr, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Bernard Hopkins, then you can add who ever you want after those 3. Marquez, Pacquiao, Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Calzaghe, etc, who ever, but after those 3. IMO of course, you don't have to agree.

wait..If Pac is the greatest of our era, what does that make JMM who schooled him 3x? going off your logic.... JMM, THE GREATEST OF OUR ERA. American Dream....you're still "dreaming". MannyP wasn't schooled as you say. He had 3 close fights, and actually won all three. As you very well know. The closeness of the fights, again as you very well know, were because of the style matchup.

Just because some say so doesn't mean that it's either neccessary or practical. That would mean that Cotto is getting the Pacquiao special treatment, which is demanding more and more and more until he just collapses. Cotto is not, in my opinion, the special fighter that Pacquiao is/was. Especially against a top flight 154 and 160 lb champion.

Cotto can't really be considered second best, if he's already lost to the second best. A score would need to be settled with Pacquiao, but if he were to beat them both, then **** he'd be the best of our time.

sure it can. Compare resumes between Pac and May.... The End from lightweight up pacs cherry picked

I'd like to weigh-in here... TRALSE. If Cotto beats Floyd, it'll definitely be history but I don't believe that elevates him to second greatest of our time. I think it would depend on what happens in the rematch with Floyd. If there isn't a rematch and he goes after Martinez or Pac, then I think he has a strong argument, maybe even for the top spot?

wait..If Pac is the greatest of our era, what does that make JMM who schooled him 3x? going off your logic.... JMM, THE GREATEST OF OUR ERA.

Avenging a loss doesn't mean the fighter is statistically one less defeat than he was a fight ago, nor does it mean he's wiped that defeat from his memeory. Different fight on a different night. If that is true, apply that logic to maybe... Antonio Tarver The fact reminds that cheat or no cheat, Cotto was 1) defeated by Margarito that night 2) Cotto was beatened to a bloody pulp that no fighter wants to ever get a beating like that. Again, cheat or no cheat He will also be remembered as the man who stopped Margarito and avenged his loss. Cotto already considered a great in the Welterweights, he in my eyes is considered a promising fighter in the Middleweight division. If he beats Floyd, I wouldn't consider him the second greatest, like many other posters said, he will be remembered as the man who took that 0 away from Floyd. That's a feat in itself. I hope Cotto comes into this one in top condition like he did the last few fights, I really have a feeling that Cotto will have a chance with Floyd. This isn't a random mismatch fight or a case of cherry picking, this IS a FIGHT

If Cotto does win, we will still have to wait until all of there careers are over with before we can start comparing them IMO. It will be easier that way. Even if Cotto does beat Floyd by a close decision, There might be a 2nd fight and even 3rd and Floyd might out class him then. Same with Pacquiao-Mayweather. If Cotto beats Floyd and then Floyd beats Pacquiao...then what?? oh, & lets not forget about JM Marquez in this discussion.

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the best cant be determined until pac and may fight.

I don't know if he'll be consider second greatest. If he does win, he will always be known as a great fighter by his career and will be known as that 1 fighter who was able to beat Mayweather Jr. Or the first fighter to beat FMJ, there will surely be more defeats for FMJ because he's destined to head down the RJJ route. Not saying Cotto is ducking, but aren't there some who say he should fight Martinez?