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Now I Like Cotto as a fighter, but he's lost more career defining fights than won. imo he's overrated. Here's why 1. Lost to Floyd 2. Lost to Canelo 3. Lost to Pac 4. Lost to Margarito(No proof of plaster just assumption) 5. Got a Robbery win against Shane Mosley(Went to hospital after) 6. Was getting tortured by Zab who had 4 losses at the time 7. Went life and death with Torres 8. Beat an out of prime Sergio Martinez 9. Almost got ko'd by Chop Chop 10. Beating a undefeated Pillow punching Malignaggi + Redeeming his first loss to Margarito were his Most significant wins 11 Austin Trout took his belt, later to get robbed by Canelo in open scoring and smoked and classed by Lara I JUST DON'T SEE THE GREATNESS SMH WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK??? Eleven.

But this dude has a 79 inch reach vs Nelsons 74 inch reach. But dude can't punch and Andrade is the better boxer.

How about him and Martinez at 147? How about 154? FMW had 2 belts for 2 yrs and Martinez fought in the class, so that is their fair match up weight? FMW vs Martinez 154 WBA/WBC

When did pre-made fan-base make you the best? Canelo fought around 154 to avoid the dangerous fighters in the division. This guy gets P4P ranking fighting Khan, Kirkland, Lame Smith and Chavez Jr. Jermall Charlo and Jacobs will smash him at 160, so those fights will never happen. If he gets the belts in a rematch, he'll vacate any belt those 2 become mandatory for and his pre-made fan-base will co-sign. mb

If Brook had been a natural middle-weight, I'm assuming he doesn't get injured and would have been piecing up GGG for 12 rounds like Jacobs and Canelo. Those are GGG's 3 best opponents. With social media these days it's easy to hype anybody. And people seem to go bunkers over 3s as in GGG, CP3, 3T, RG3 which is unbelievable.

Am i missing something here? Wilder said, we know why you didn't make it to the conference. Wilder and Ortiz are both Haymon. That would mean Haymon and Co knew the results of VADA before Wilder did the 1 man press conference. Looks like a big show to me.

Lmao your great white hype failed get over it. 50-0 My great white hype? Who are you talking about? My favorite figher is Frankie Randall. Look him up, son.

Connor is the same height and reach as Lara. FMW fought Maidana for WBA/WBC 154 belts in a 2 yr span. People really think FMW could have come forward on Lara with his 50% power punch connection rate. FMW played a nice game and people foolishly purchased his PPVs vs made opponents. Invincible, I think not. That;s why I never purchased one of his fights.

who released this? hbo hasn't anything. I just heard some nonsense from dan. if it did 2 mil, they would have put those numbers out asap. it may have done no better than canelo / cotto

Wilder is a good heavyweight and a great cherry picker. It's very possible he could cherry pick his way to beating Mayweather's 50 and 0 record. Wrong. Wilder is after 49-0 HW record. There is a midget asian figter (can't remember his man) who is shooting for 80-0, the longest non-heavyweight record. fmw just happen to win 50 fights.

Canelo SD with 2 cards paid for by Oscar.

i hate to say it but gggimmick and canelo are 1-1 so you can realistically ask for a 3rd fight. fury is clearly 2-0 vs wilder but the 3rd is dangerous b/c 3-peats are hard to come by in individual and team sports. if wilder somehow clips fury we are back to square one. wilder will be running talking about generational money and 50/50 and all the crap we have been hearing since the 1st aj offer. hope fury wins bc it seems like both sides will make that match ASAP in saudi arabia or UK, just for the health off the division.

it's all about superchats and pushing agenda to a specific audience. i saw one fool give 78sportstv a $99 superchat (hope he spends that same money on his family and kids vs some random dude on youtube) for talking trash about joshua. some parts of youtube boxing community are wacker than the chicks gossiping over at lipstick alley.

fury wilder 1 is very similar to lara angulo, which had 2 knockdowns but lara was still ahead on 2 cards at the time of the stoppage which proves you can win a fight with 2 knockdowns. that's all wilder's fans have to ride on. gggimmick was clearly pushing canelo back similar to ward/kovalev 1 but canelo never really adjusted in the 2nd half like ward did, so you end up with normal rigged canelo cards.

rigged cards, failed ped test the minute they tested him in mexico, uncountable number of catch-weights and rehydrations. now he is being compared to fmw. he has legit defeats on his record vs GGGimmick I and Lara. Even Trout could have been a draw with the fraudulent open scoring in that fight

3 peats are hard in sports. just research the history. joshua beats both of them, isnt a low volume one punch at a time fighter like vlad and wilder which allows fury to read, slide, parry or ride the shot, is coming with the combination.

insiders are saying 750-800 but bob is out here saying 1.2, LOL. he still has the best ring girls though. obviously inflated numbers helps him get a better cut in a potential fury/joshua matchup b/c it looks like wilder is going to get pieced in the 3rd fight unless he can pull off a one punch miracle.

power is generated from the knuckles, not bi!ch slapping in a fight. Looks odd, no different than Wilder hitting with his forearms when wind-milling, but something i wouldnt spend energy on. Go watch lara vs paul williams. lara was catching williams with the heel of his hand

See video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2T-xnmudqA&t=0m5s Wow, I didn't believe any of these conspiracy theories until I watched this video. again, he is more than linking going to break a finger trying to bi!ch wilder with an open hand vs hurting wilder. knuckles due the damn. as far as that fight, he could have thumbed him, that's about it.

Spence has 3 belts to Crawford's 1. Spence draws more on PPV. Anyone with intelligence can easily see that Spence is the clear A side to Crawford. Only dumbass clowns think otherwise. Bringing up others still doesn't excuse Crawford pricing himself out and being a delusional narcissistic diva. Joshua had 3 belts but gave a guy 50'50 Fury who literally sold 3900 tickets in a ballroom before Wilder who was the A-Side. You are telling me Spence is in AJ's league and Crawford with sellouts and the highest guarantee in the welterweight division before this PBC nonsense is a ballroom fighter who is undisputed and 2 times lineal. Make some sense. This is a 50/50 b/c Spence is not Canelo or AJ. At Best it is 53/47. Give Spence the extra 3 points for the 3 belts.

Before fury beat wilder, everyone thought wilder could beat anyone. Lose 9 rounds to everyone before koing you. Now fury won, everyone beats wilder? But mercer does beat wilder LDBC and the underlings thought Wilder would beat everyone. Don't be so general. Wilder got out-boxed by a football player with 3 yrs of boxing experience and it took Wilder to pull down his guard (illegal) to stop him. Dynamite in the right hand vs. picked competition but little in the skill department. After all that I still think they odds my favor him in a trilogy vs. Fury, based on the history of unsuccessful three-peats

This is beyond sad! Wilder picked Fury because he thought Fury would be an easy knockout and a profile builder, given Fury was coming off of peds, coke, 400 lbs, twisting his ankle jumping fences at carnivals, and 2 lame fights. Talk about everything gone all wrong for Wilder. Since the first fight it has been the long count, gloves I, demonic megatron suit, dirrell, breeland, ref, water, dent on the side of the head, gloves II, ldbc crying for their man, wilder twerking with his butt crack showing, kenny porter piecing up sister girl conversions, general chow chicken not showing up for his ldbc birthday bash, etc, etc, etc. you can make this stuff up. Basically, this is poor matchmaking 101. Based on the Vlad fight, an in shape Fury is well equipped to evade a low volume fighter who relies on catching him with one shot. at the end of the day, wilder should have taken the aj fight for 120 mil. this fool is within a blink of an eye of going 0-3 vs Fury.

I know that Mayweather is a hard person to like due to his personality. Did he earn any respect from for giving Maidana an immediate rematch after a tough fight that some had as a draw. Does he get any credit for that? He won the 1st fight 8/4 - 7/5, just hung on the ropes in the beginning and gave maidana 2 of 3 rounds, so the haters starting talking robbery, so fmw jr hustled them for another $70 and 30 mil payday. Like Bob says, boxing fans are rocks. There was never a need for the 2nd fight.

So Wilder had a fracture skull near the temple area but no surgery is required b/c his skull is more sturdy than the avg bear. On top of that he has medical evidence but won't present it. Instead, he is lining him self for another payday vs Margarito 2.0. This has to be the wackest generation of boxing ever. How do we go from Megatron - Breland/Dirrell - Rocky (Throw in the damn towel!) Ref - Spiked Water - Gloves half on - Knuckles showing thru Glove padding - Whatever? For the sanity of the sport, Fury needs to wear a megatron suit with Fmw's orthopedic gloves and finish this off. I don't know if there was cheating or not but this is getting ridiculous. Then, add Arum tried to get the WBC to make Fury French Fry Champ so he didn't have to fight Whyte. Joshua is the only "Truth" in the division.

Canelo could have fought Andrade for undisputed on DAZN but let belts go, wants no parts of that matchup. I'm assuming Canelo still wants Saunders. Saunders with a belt makes the fight more worthy. Watch the cards, Andrade. You are going to have to blow out Nasal Spray so they can't Jimmy the cards.

3-peats are hard as hell in any sport, team or individual. odds have wilder catching him clean this time.

Seriously... As a fan, that is what you want? F*** marketable... This guy is actively looking to cheat, with drugs that make you stronger for longer, in a sport where the aim is to inflict damage on someone. Even juiced up to the eye balls he had average power, but crazy output for someone so big... So imagine him off the juice lol, he'll have zero power but now with likely poor cardio and slower. Doesn't sound so marketable, unless you just love a proven cheat who likes to TALK a big game only? HW division is the healthiest it's been for years... We don't need Miller, he was only ever gonna be a gatekeeper at best anyway. How many HW have been busted for juicing more than once? You act like it's just Miller. Ortiz is busted twice and still gets 2 shots at Wilder. Povetkin is busted twice and gets mega-payday vs Joshua but I'll pretend otherwise b/c Miller is the only HW to be busted twice. I don't know what happen in kickboxing so I don't count that. Where is Povetkin and Ortiz's lifetime ban? Some of you dudes get me sometimes. What Margarito did makes these dudes look like saints!

Wider fans still trotting out the line that " you have to be perfect for 12 rounds to beat wilder" lol it was hilarious before he lost and even more so now. It's always Wilder fans. Everyone isn't LDBC. Wilder dropped Fury twice in the 1st fight but Fury was out of shape. Two rights landed in the 2nd fight but Fury turns on/rides both shots. Simply, can Wilder get him along the ropes, a bit more stationary and land a clean right? Guys on here are talking like that is some kind of lottery punch. It's no different than when Wilder pulled down Washington's guard on the ropes, shorten up the right and caught him. Actually, that was a bit of an illegal move to hold his guard down but it was so fast the ref missed it. that's not lotto luck, it's strategy. I prefer Fury vs AJ but there is a 3rd fight no matter how much people complain. I'm going to play the odds on this one.

Crawford won't get credit when he stops him too. 6-0-6 kos since fighting above 140. welterweight division has been a joke since 2015. the bodies need to do something. crawford is being robbed of a 2nd undisputed and history. he's going to put a submission beating on ugas like he did diaz.

Margarito attempted 1st-2nd degree on Cotto. Miller is just another cheat who can't time his cycles properly. Big difference! Actually, hand him a 2 yr suspension this time, counselling and 365 testing. He is still marketable.