"Terence Crawford says he doesn’t want to be the B-side for a unification fight against IBF/WBC welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr. The rationale that WBO champion Crawford (36-0, 27 KOs) is giving for why he shouldn’t be the B-side is he feels he’s proven more in his career than Spence."
When Crawford talks about having accomplished more with his career, he’s obviously referring to winning world titles in three divisions.
That’s certainly a respectable achievement, which Spence hasn’t matched. But when you look at who Crawford beat to pick up those victories, that’s where the problem starts.
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The A side question comes down to who has the better options.
If he doesn’t fight Bud then a fight with Thurman wound still do good business for him and he would probably make just as much if not more than giving up a bigger split with Crawford. Haymon would prefer an in house fight than making a deal with a low drawing free agent.
Who does Bud fight that he’ll make even remotely as much as a Spence fight? What promoter would he work with? Will Haymon do other business with him if the Spence fight doesn’t happen? He’s a risk for any other fight as he will want big money but is not a big draw.
Crawford is the slightly higher regarded fighter but Spence is the clear A side IMO.
Goddamn ego's on the line. They all think they are better than the other, and refuse to back down. Sometimes you have to be the B side in order to take the lead.
Look at Oscar DLH-Mayweather for example, Mayweather was the B side and when he won, he became the A side and took over the PPV sales.
Crawford has no where to go to make this kind of money. If he passes he will be viewed as one of those he could had done this or that. He will be quickly forgotten because he has not left his mark on the sport and now is the chance.
Bud should just take the short end of a 60/40 split. Spence won't give him too much trouble. Short money isn't a problem for an easy fight.
These guys have big egos, and their promoters don't help matters. Just beat his ass T.C.!
Spence has 3 belts to Crawford's 1. Spence draws more on PPV. Anyone with intelligence can easily see that Spence is the clear A side to Crawford. Only dumbass clowns think otherwise. Bringing up others still doesn't excuse Crawford pricing himself out and being a delusional narcissistic diva.
Joshua had 3 belts but gave a guy 50'50 Fury who literally sold 3900 tickets in a ballroom before Wilder who was the A-Side. You are telling me Spence is in AJ's league and Crawford with sellouts and the highest guarantee in the welterweight division before this PBC nonsense is a ballroom fighter who is undisputed and 2 times lineal. Make some sense. This is a 50/50 b/c Spence is not Canelo or AJ. At Best it is 53/47. Give Spence the extra 3 points for the 3 belts.
"Terence Crawford says he doesn’t want to be the B-side for a unification fight against IBF/WBC welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr. The rationale that WBO champion Crawford (36-0, 27 KOs) is giving for why he shouldn’t be the B-side is he feels he’s proven more in his career than Spence."
When Crawford talks about having accomplished more with his career, he’s obviously referring to winning world titles in three divisions.
That’s certainly a respectable achievement, which Spence hasn’t matched. But when you look at who Crawford beat to pick up those victories, that’s where the problem starts.
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Spence is not Canelo or AJ. His only 300k PPV is with Mikey Garcia. Maybe Crawford should be B Side to Mikey. Clowns at PBC. Make the fight. No more excuses. Sell it to the Arabs. What is next? James is going to say Crawford is a nobody like Shields said Andrade was after a 7 million offer. How about Kownacki and Ortiz turning down AJ fights? How about since 2016 no fight between Thurman and Spence (yeah, they will make it now :rolleyes:). Can't get Benavidez, Charlo or Plant to fight each other because of Bob Arom. I could go on. Make the fight. Spence takes the L but has a rematch clause. Sick of this nonsense.
I guess we will find out if legacy means anything to these two. The fight gets made, regardless of split. or history will forget both these fighters. They need each other.
My guess is whichever one caves the most on the money to get the event official will win the fight as that man will want it way more than the other. If it does not get made, I sure will not care that much about either going forward.
If the numbers were reversed and in favor of Bob Arum's fighter do you think he would give the other guy a 50/50 split?
Of course not.
That's why this matters.
ahhh you're one of those ones....
But who cares? Neither guy is a star. Money, PPV percentages etc etc shouldnt even be part of the negotiations. Both these fools should fight or shut up. Thats my take on it. You dont have to agree.
If the numbers were reversed and in favor of Bob Arum's fighter do you think he would give the other guy a 50/50 split?
Of course not.
That's why this matters.
I've already explained it. Spence gets superior numbers on tv ratings and on PPVs.
A-side to what? A-side in relation to Terence Crawford in a fight between the two of them.
But who cares? Neither guy is a star. Money, PPV percentages etc etc shouldnt even be part of the negotiations. Both these fools should fight or shut up. Thats my take on it. You dont have to agree.
4 PPV's
Crawford vs. Postol 50,000 buys
Crawford vs. Khan 150,000 buys
Spence vs. Garcia 375,000 Buys
Spence vs. Porter 350,000 Buys
Wow. 4 ppvs for two guys in their 30s says exactly what I said. They are not a side fighters.
4 PPV's
Crawford vs. Postol 50,000 buys
Crawford vs. Khan 150,000 buys
Spence vs. Garcia 375,000 Buys
Spence vs. Porter 350,000 Buys
Everybody needs to read your post and look at the numbers.
They say it all.
I dont think there is A side, they both pretty much about the same, these guys have not established dominance in the market place, in the big picture this fight would be their breakout into the big time.
Make it either 50/50 across the board , or 60/ 40 Winner loser.
As soon as one wants more than the other going into a big fight the BS starts, you want more you must win to get more, if you lose you get the lower rate, this would cut all the crying out about A-B side.
Is he suppose to be a submissive little b#tch like a lot of guys on this forum to worship other Men and hold them up as unbeatable Boxing Gods or somethings? NO! He is speaking from a Boxers Prospecting not some Internet Fan! He shouldn't bow down to Spence Jr and just accept B Side especially with him being more ACCOMPLISHED than Spence Jr as far as unifying at 140 (regardless of the competition) as well as being considered Top 3 P4P
I'm a long time fan of both and I don't see fear from either side of each other. I do think they have a ton of respect for each other as fighters and I'm sure they have had private conversations discussing the fight and discussing the politics behind it. The fight will happen eventually!
Right Now I don't think any Big Fights will be made for awhile after this Pandemic because the money in it will be so uncertain as Arum is already talking about fighters having to take Less
Clear? Define and explain why?
And my point is, A side to what? Who cares, both these gangster wanabes need to get in the ring or stfu.
I've already explained it. Spence gets superior numbers on tv ratings and on PPVs.
A-side to what? A-side in relation to Terence Crawford in a fight between the two of them.
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