He beat Clottey easily you moron, lol.
And he was beating Santos both times before Santos fouled his way out of the fight.
Not to mention the Paul Williams fight was decided by the last round.
Watch some more fights before you comment dick head.
You can't be ****ing serious!? Clottey was getting the best of Marg plenty of times in that fight until his injury...And your dumbass has the nerve to tell someone else to watch more fights before they comment??
WHY???? reasons???
Where do you morons come from?? First off NSAC only covers Nevada...secondly cuz we like the sport just not the governing bodies!!
Regardless still a ridiculous question!
no dude
a welterweight title fight is a fight where the weight can be no higher than 147
NOT 145
I am fine with Cotto agreeing to the weight. I am fine with stating it probably didn't effect him much
but if you think one stipulation is easy to do than the other one just because
1. its Manny and you are a fan of his
2. Cotto didn't care
then you are clearly wrong
why?
because both were stipulations that CLEARLY went against the general rules of the governing bodies.
Manny asked that Cotto's title be on the lin inspite of Cotto not being allowed the aspect of having the welterweight limit be afforded to him.
This is not a rule in any WBO handbook in fact page 6 of their rules states a welterweight championship fight is up to 147lbs. NOT 145.
so why is Manny making up his own rules? This isn't the Pacquiao Boxing Organization!
isnt that what you guys say about Mayweather?
and here is one thing that CLEARLY sides with Mayweather
while yes Mayweather is clearly not doing it for the good of boxing no matter how much he states it, the good of boxing is the benefit. We all know that better testing is needed in our sport and while yes Mayweather's reasoning maybe selfish the act itself does lend credibility to a sport that needs it
Manny? He did that for his own benefit solely. He made the stipulation of 145lbs not because in his own selfish way it could help the sport. No he did that so he can say he claimed a rightful title.....without allowing his opponent the chance to enforce page 6 of the handbook his title came from.
so again just because Cotto didn't care doesn't make it any more or less acceptable than Mayweather's stipulation.
in fact couldn't we lend more credence to Cotto than Manny because he truely was indeed about making the fight regardless of what was thrown at him yet Manny, ever the warrior, didn't?
all hail Cotto the warrior for making fights regardless
Good post !!
he might finally grow a pair and fight the best in the division without blatantly ducking fighters and looking like a fool on tv, getting laughed at every day lol! :D
Wait, isn't Mosley the best in the division?
how was it pathetic?? just coz pac dominated clottey?
Cuz Clottey didn't try to win! Pac did everything he was supposed to do and put on a good show, Clottey didn't!
Yes Mayweather Magically knew Pac would turn down a test he himself was willing to take, and many of the top athletes ((Bolt, Kobe, Lebron, Armstrong, Federer, Williams Sisters, Phelps, etc...) in the world have taken. Also dont ignore all the different excuses Team Pac has given on why they refused, theres a new one every week it seems.
This whole Go by the Commission rules is Bull, No where does the commission require catch weights, and $10,000,000 penalties either.
Good post...Nuff said!!
No he doesn't. He doesn't have a high workrate, but he doesn't have that low of an output.
It's totally regardless how much of a beatdown Cotto got. Cotto was at one point in the fight. Clottey was not. Cotto was competitive, engaging, Clottey was not.
Damage does not equate to "doing better". Clottey did horrible.
You think Cotto got beat worse by Margarito than Pavlik did by Hopkins? Sure Cotto got stopped, but he was competitive.
I'd rather get stopped in a close fight than lose every round. Granted Cotto/Pac wasn't close, but the first half of the fight was HIGHLY competitive...more than you can say about the Clottey fight which at no point was remotely competitive.
Couldn't have said it better! That was a pathetic showing by Clottey
slick boxer can get outworked... see mayorga / spinks
floyd loves sitting in the pocket and shoulder-rolling
floyd will counter, but he won't do it enough to win the fight
yep... defensive boxers don't let their hands go and can get beaten by volume punchers
defensive boxer suffer from the same thing: lack of punch output due to defensive mindedness
doesn't matter, if floyd is too busy running the isn't busy throwing punches
pac was killing clottey to the body, go rewatch it. it wasn't even close. how did clottey make it close? by not throwing punches? clottey admitted that he lost and badly.
styles make fights. volume puncher > counterpuncher
Your worst than normal today! You can't compare Clottey to Floyd, it's just ridiculous. Floyd will atleast make Manny pay after he misses
Without a doubt. I agree 100%. what im saying is Floyd won a lot of fights off his D alone. It wont be as affective with a creature like Manny!
Your right! Floyd would have to bring his A game offensively. I still think Pac gets hit too easy tho.
^ no nuthugging at all. i'm a fan (in order) of cotto, pacquiao, marquez, mosley, calzaghe, hatton etc etc. so as you can see it's not like i only follow one and there's no boxing world outside of him.
i absolutely don't care if any of my fav fighters load their gloves or use peds before the fight, specially if i hate/dislike the guy they'll be fighting against (mayweather would be a great example). survival of the fittest.
Your joking right?
Stop making shit up. The only thing getting shunned is people such as yourself who are obsessed with "Pac fans", of which plenty are fully in support of testing, you clown. You still don't get it, though. People are not against testing. Nobody actually is. Some of us just happen to be smart enough to see through the bullshit. IE: We're not buying Floyd's side of the story, ya dig?
Lmao...You don't even believe the bullsh!t you just posted
wow...I thought I was the ONLY one thinking Clottey was going to shake the earth....good post Lefty.....but stay away from the Micky Deez fam.....that shit aint good for you bro!! :cool2:
Your not the only one fella. I gotta feeling Clottey might pull this off too!!
WAR CLOTTEY!!
Bearing in mind you're not the one in the ring and as human beings we have been cheering at men brutally beating or killing eachother since the days of the colleseum..
Do you really care if any boxer is on roids?
Course most people would love PAC to take the test, but it's mainly because you wanna see the great fight ain't it?
Uhh yeah!! :thinking:
Not saying Mosley will win, but that is basically FACT.
Corrales, Costillo, Hernandez, DLH, Judah... None nearly as good as Mosley. All great wins, but DLH wasn't the same DLH that "lost" to Mosley in the rematch.
Mayweather is in tougher then he EVER has on May 1st.
This is a better fight then Mayweather-Pacquiao IMO, in terms of action, and is also more important.
I actually like Mosley to possibly take the upset
And same can be said bout Mosley...He hasn't faced anyone as good as Floyd! Good fight and everyone should appreciate that it's actually going to happen!
chavez was 35 when hoya fought him and still was a topp rated fighter.....pernell was also in his early 30's when hoya beat him.......hoya>>>>>floyd, ......shane is 38, im jsut sayin!
Obsessed much? I'm just sayin!!
7 titles in 7 division
first to stop dlh
stopped hattton earlier than floyd
first to stop DD
first to stop EM
2nd to stop Mab
first to KD JMM 4x
lineal champ of 140
lineal champ of 126
lineal champ at 130?
etc...
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Really? What Oscar did Hop's stop then?
My bad! And big black letters dont scare me! Your sig says you love some man and comments like " thats cute" make me wonder! But if its like that on the real with all flame aside i apologize...I was being a smart ass not hitting below the belt. Shit like that aint cool..my bad!
Come on man don't be a fuking dick!! There's shit you just don't say and you know it. Don't comeback as fukin tough guy, he used big letters so you understand
lmao hes calzaghe with less output and a worse chin
Dirrell ko's him late
His styles nothing like Cal, what are you watching? And dude has shown good power.
No it wouldn't happen. Floyd was hurt for a few seconds and just like he did with Mosley he would hold Pac until he got his legs under him which didn't take long at all and Mosley hits harder than Pac.
c'mon man!
I would favor Pac no doubt but if Mosley can land a shot like that on Floyd best believe he can land on Pac. Pac gets hit easy so Mosley has a chance
people are going to find out that the reason guys gas and stop throwing against floyd is because of floyd! sign the fight! I can't wait to see it.
Exactly! It's why Floyd is the smartest fighter out there. He frustrates his opponents and make them over think everything they are trying to do