Who cares?
If the fighter himself doesn't care, why care?
I agree. It looks like Andrade is content with his current situation and he's shown nothing to make anyone think otherwise.
LOL @ Canelo "fading into irrelevance".
How often had you seen the 20 something face of US boxing "fade into irrelevance" cuz he lost a fight? Even if he loses by like a 2nd round KO or something embarrassing like that it won't be the end of him. Hearns got KO'd by Hagler & f#cking Barley early & that didn't end him. Granted GGG is no Hagler, but it don't matter sh^t don't work like that.
I mean look at Broner. Broner has low level popularity compared to Canelo, but he's taken 3 L's in his 3 biggest fights & he's still got people excited to watch him.
Popularity doesn't just fall away cuz you take an L.
Different factors involved.
Canelo's reputation has taken a hit since the drug test failure. If he were to go out and get smashed by Golovkin, it wouldn't look good.
The loser of that fight will be out of boxing. Or at the very least their reputation will take a hit and they won't be marketable anymore.
If Golovkin wins, I see him retiring and Canelo fading into irrelevance.
If Canelo wins, I see him continuing to fight and Golovkin retiring.
He's trying to protect his client from getting sued by Murray. Murray would have a case if they had a signed contract, Saunders pulled out due to "injury" only to find out that he was negotiating for a Golovkin fight.
Pretty sure the only out in that contract is for injury reasons.
Yea cuz no other name guy has gotten popped for PEDs before. Canelo is the first lol.
Idk why you guys are wishful thinking Canelo's demise. He's gonna be a top guy in popularity for years to come. Even when he starts losing fights more often he'll be popular like Chavez & ODLH were in their downside days.
Name me a fighter who got busted for PEDs, lost his next fight and then went on to have a prosperous career?
Jaime Munguia? The 154 lber? It would make sense for cinco de mayo. He's tall, undefeated as well but too young and way too inexperienced. However, he's a much better choice than Spike. The level of scrutiny he would get for fighting Spike O'Sullivan, he'd never be able to live it down.
My guess as to why these two are being considered is likely because of money. They're probably willing to accept less money, like maybe $300-500K. Whereas Derevyachenko and Andrade are probably looking at a $1M payday or something close to that.
He has to fight Povetkin or Wilder next
Yup, caught between a rock and hard place.
At this point, Povetkin is an easier fight of the two as he may be showing signs of decline (related possibly to PED use).
But he's still a dangerous opponent. If he lands that left hook, which he hasn't had difficulties missing combined with AJ's poor defense, AJ is going down.
To neutralize Povetkin, he may have to employ the Wlad method of leaning on him and jabbing.
But either way, he's going to have to face one of them next.
It's hard to say since it's the HW division. But he has a tendency of getting hit flush. Two of his KO losses (2nd Thompson fight and Hammer fight) were a result of exhaustion. But his other 3, 1st Thompson, Teper and Povetkin, he got nailed flush.
I always felt this fight made the most sense. Since both are on HBO, Andrade is American and has some following. Certainly a more popular choice than Derevyachenko or O'Sullivan. He's good enough to where fans give him a shot to win the fight.
If Oscar is telling the truth than you can pretty much get rid of Jacobs. Charlo will probably hold out to fight GGG instead of Derevyachenko due to $. Which basically leaves Andrade as the clear option.
If it's true that he didn't budge on the 50/50, Golovkin might be one of the biggest morons in the sport.
I guess he's content making $1-2M for Saunders or Derevyachenko.
I think there were a lot of factors that had to play out, among them Jacobs demanding more money than was offered and Canelo being stripped of his only "title".
I think it was apparent to Golovkin that despite what some people around here were claiming, Canelo's other options were not all that attractive and were risky too.
Well, according to Oscar Canelo could make $30M no matter who he fights... That's obviously not true. He can make good money, but nowhere near the kind of money he can make from facing Golovkin.
Golovkin knew this and held firm. He also knew that the public perception of Canelo wasn't good and that he would be under heavy pressure to accept the fight.
If Oscar really believed Canelo was this massive star he would never have surrendered 7.5% and possibly more.
We likely won't ever know what the actual split was (Alvarez wanted to give 42.5%, and Golovkin wanted 45%, so split the difference at 43.5% with the Mexico money not in the mix), but Golovkin is now happy with the deal.
Still, he's now a year older, the last fight was basically a 50/50 fight, he hasn't really done anything since tbh, he got stripped of one of his alleged prized belts, and he still likely has issues with fighting anyone who's not going to simply stand there and bang with him.
Maybe he wins, maybe he loses, could care less. I'm just pointing out Golovkin's brilliance in negotiating.
This could set a precedent for fighters going forward.
Lol, how?
Golovkin had the first fight for 30% of the pot, sat on the bench for basically 8 months (and missing out on that alleged mega-money fight in Kazakhstan against Saunders), ended up fighting for maybe 10% of the money that he would've made had he not made a stink to the commission against a bum, got stripped of one of his title belts, and is now set to fight for 40%+ of the pot in the rematch.
Why would any other fighter do that to themselves?
He was never going to fight anyone before he fought Canelo. That's why he waited out and fought Martirosyan (tune up) and resumed negotiations after Canelo got a slap on the wrist by NSAC.
He was offered a 65-35 take-it-or-leave-it split by Oscar, who threatened to rescind the offer several times. Golovkin wanted 45% at least, stood firm and got a very nice split in the end. That's a huge win.
Don't be surprised if after the fight Golovkin fades off into the sunset and retires, win or lose.
People don't like this because they feel like Groves has earned it, and he has, however I really like this move. If you get injured, too bad the tournament has to go on otherwise it loses its steam and people stop caring. .
If LeBron sprains his ankle, they're not going to postpone the the Cavs game until LeBron gets healed and is ready go. The games still go on.