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Unranked Wallin leaves Fury bloodied and battered. If Fury is on your P4P list, you can't be taken seriously. https://streamable.com/d3bth5

It was a relatively even matchup going in. Artem has a losing record in MMA(13-15) Paulie is past his past prime but was a 2 division world champ. Both are in their 30s. Yet Artem pulled out the win. Boxers are not real fighters. They're sportsman. If you put in a hockey goon in there, I guarantee he'd beat up any boxer they put in front of him. Boxers don't fair well in street fights.

This is fantastic. First time I've seen Roy emotional. **Thread merged**

Roach's losses in 2012: Pacquiao x2 Linares Khan JCC 3 of the above were favorites Abel's losses in 2018: GGG Gassiev Martin Saucedo Ponomarev Madiev 4 of the above were favorites

In the recent conference call. Golovkin went off on Chepo Reynoso, laughing at his status and poor upbringing. https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/gennady-golovkin-keeps-war-words-going-canelo-alvarez-ahead-heated-rematch-011922317.html “What I want to say is I don’t want to go so low at the level of statements like that. It just shows a lack of class. It shows low class. It just shows a lack of upbringing, lack of intelligence. It just shows, again, how they behave themselves. I’m never able to say anything so low about anybody. So I just don’t want to comment about this anymore.” I gotta say I like this savage version of Golovkin. His goal is to send Chepo back to the butcher shop and remind him where he belongs.

The numbers for Mikey's recent fight with Robert Easter just came out, and like all his other fights on Showtime (minus the Broner fight), it produced pitiful numbers. He's been fighting on the network for two years now and has failed to break out. It's very obvious that the Broner fight was an outlier and generated the views because of Broner, not Mikey. Keep in mind, Wilder does at least 1M on all of his fights on Showtime, so you can't play the low subscriber card anymore. The reality is that Mikey is not as big of a star as he, and his team, think he is. Which brings me to the potential Lomachenko fight, and why the fight won't happen. Last week, Mark Kriegel interviewed Mikey for ESPN, which can be found here: http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/24183862/why-mikey-garcia-mexican-american-superstar He asked Mikey about the Lomachenko fight, and reminded him that the fight is the most lucrative for him, Mikey's response says it all: Dollar for dollar, however, he knows the fight is Lomachenko. "He's a champion at 135. I'm about to unify the title at 135. But different promoters, different networks ... He brings the most -- more than Crawford, more than Spence -- less risk, more money." So what's the problem? I remind him that Jorge Linares, promoted by Golden Boy, pushed hard to make his fight with Lomachenko. "I wouldn't let Bob dictate all the terms after leaving his company," he said. "Linares gave up all his leverage in negotiation. ... He had to go to New York, fight on an ESPN show, under a Top Rank banner." It didn't exactly spell doom for Linares' career. He fought on national television in Madison Square Garden. In fact, even after losing, Linares is bigger than he ever was. And he deserves it. He bet on himself, not a promoter. Still, I can't help but wonder, if Linares could knock down Lomachenko, what would Mikey do? "I'm not saying I could only fight on Showtime, but I wouldn't want Top Rank to be in charge of those decisions," Mikey said. "I'm not an 'opponent.' I don't believe I should be treated as an opponent." He pauses for a moment. "Would Lomachenko come to me?" That right there tells you all you need to know. Bob Arum was right, Mikey is beyond delusional. He thinks he's a bigger star than he is. That's why Top Rank cut bait with him. But the numbers say otherwise. In this situation, with his pitiful numbers, he's not the ASide fighter but he thinks he is.

Say what you want about him, but he held firm from all of GBPs threats to cancel the fight and went from 65-35 to at least 57.5-42.5. I say at least because who knows what the "Hail Mary" was. We proved all of us (including me) wrong for calling him an idiot. Also, so much for Canelo is the A-Side that can sell against whomever he wants. If that was the case, why surrender the split? Clearly, they know of Golovkin's value and that this fight is massive for both of them. Golovkin has to be seen as one of the best businessmen in boxing history.

Per Pugmire. A Tuesday morning conference call is scheduled among Sulaiman, IBF President Daryl Peoples and World Boxing Assn. head Gilberto Mendoza to discuss Golovkin's next bout. .... But Sulaiman says he will inform his peers that his organization has already determined Charlo will be ordered as the mandatory foe for Golovkin after the champion fights Alvarez later this year, or if he declines to fight Alvarez following their September draw in Las Vegas. .... DiBella says IBF rules seem to mandate a Golovkin fight against Derevyanchenko now that the champion is selecting a "discretionary fight" while awaiting how the Nevada Athletic Commission will discipline Mexico's former two-division champion Alvarez. http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-gennady-golovkin-mandatory-osullivan-stubhub-20180409-story.html

- Truax got dominated and KOed by Jacobs, he's now a world champion after dominating DeGale (who was considered the best in the division). - Uzcategui got dominated and dropped by Korobov, he's now one of the top 5 fighters at 168. Maybe Truax and Uzcategui were drained at 160, and moved up and found success at 168? Maybe they got better and added to their game? Or maybe 160 isn't as bad as people think? All possible.

You guys should check out the WBSS channel.

Doesn't have the cardio, doesn't have the footwork, and definitely doesn't have the power at 160. He can throw his 5 punch combinations, and then he'll take a 1.5 minute break and back himself into the ropes. It's okay though, not everyone can.

lol what a drama queen. I think the funniest part is how Dontae thinks Dan Rafael is promoting LSC because of his cover photo.

Well, it wasn't long before the fat brown buffalo got into the "Conor is racist" routine... According to Dontae, Michael Richards screaming the N-Word at a black audience member and telling them that they would be hanged by a tree 40 years ago, and Mel Gibson Screaming the N-Word at his wife and saying he wanted her to be raped by a pack of N-Words. Is similar to Conor Mcgregor saying: "I own Rio de Janeiro. I'm sitting up here with my feet on the desk. What's anyone up there going to do about it? Not one of yous are going to do anything about it. My name, the McGregor name, my family's motto ... means royal is in my blood. That goes way back. So for to say he is the king and I am the joker, if this was a different time, I would invade his favela on horseback and kill anyone that was not fit to work. But we are in a new time. So I'll whoop his ass in July." Here's the video:

http://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/report-manny-pacquiaos-next-fight-will-air-on-espn-kick-off-new-top-rank-series/ Unlike ESPN's current series with Golden Boy, which largely broadcasts young prospects in showcase bouts, the Top Rank deal would feature highly competitive title fights typically seen on the promotion's longtime premium cable partner, HBO. In addition to Pacquiao-Horn, ESPN is expected to broadcast a highly anticipated junior lightweight title rematch between pound-for-pound star Vasyl Lomachenko and veteran brawler Orlando Salido, who handed the two-time Olympic gold medalist his lone pro defeat. A third show in August is expected to feature unbeaten Terence Crawford in a junior welterweight title unification bout against Julius Indongo.

Well, the fat brown buffalo is at it again. I guess it must be grazing season. But apparently the funny Kovalev parody with him pretending to text Ward, is now considered racist because Kovalev used the word "*****". Here's the video where the buffalo goes on a 21 minute tirade. Manages to even bring up Barack Obama somehow.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/19149776/shattered-dreams Prichard Colon breathes on his own, but that is the extent of his independence. Doctors describe his condition as a persistent vegetative state. He is unaware, unresponsive and under his mother's 24-hour care. Happened to Mago, Eddie Gutnecht and now Colon. Very, very sad. Colon's parents say they have not lost hope that their son will regain some brain function, despite doctors giving them no cause for optimism. "I do believe in miracles. I do believe in miracles," said Richard. "Every time I go into the room," said Nieves, "I expect Prichard to say, 'Mom' -- I expect that word, 'Mom.'"

The only rounds I gave Rungivisai were 1,2, 7 and 11. Roman dominated the rest of the fight. That was a really bad decision.

I'm a fan of Dwyer, I'd say I agree with about 90% of what he says and his post fight breakdowns are excellent. However, I think he has to own up to this as a huge misfire. Some golden quotes regarding Degale : "I think James Degale is one of the top 5 best P4P fighters in the sport" "James Degale could move up to lightheavy weight and rule the division" "James Degale would stop Golovkin" I feel like most people who hyped Degale never actually saw him fight, they just listened to Dwyer and basically copied his talking points. When you hear people say things like "Degale is great on the inside". No, hes not. That's a Dwyer talking point. I'd say Dwyer is one of the top people responsible for the Degale hype. It's not to say Degale isn't a good fighter. He is a good fighter. But he's not at the level Dwyer thinks he is. He faded against Bute, Jack, Medina and Dirrell after starting very strong in all four of those fights. Big D is still the man. But he's way off on this one.

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Dana speaks some hard truth, start at 1:08

It's grazing season for the fat brown buffalo Dontae.

Lol, I'm not even making this up According to RingTV: The Rabbi and The American Dream could be meeting in the ring in 2017. Erislandy Lara is in advanced talks to defend his 154-pound title against Yuri Foreman, a former champion and ordained rabbi for the first quarter of 2017, a source told ******.com on Wednesday. Both sides have agreed to the match, the source said, with Jan. 13 in Florida eyed as a date and destination. Lara's last 4 opponents are really a "murderers row" Delvin Rodriguez, Ishe Smith, Jan Zaveck, Vanes Martirosyan and now the great Yuri Foreman. My goodness, how does he keep winning!?!?! Keep running, GGG!

I agree with Kovalev. All I heard was "Master boxer", "P4P no.1", "Super slick" yada yada, yet he got dropped and outlanded, how does that happen to the best?

Some act like Rigo's resume is better because he beat Donaire. But Donaire is trash and one dimensional as he showed for the 10th time tonight. He has no jab, he fights the same way he fought when he was a fly weight, he's so easy to figure out and likely can't beat a single fighter in the top 5. GRJ would absolutely mop the floor with him. Even though Lomachenko already has a better resume. After the Walters fight, their resumes won't be even comparable and little Rigo will be forced to get on his knees and bow before his master.

Nov. 5: Pacquiao vs. Vargas - Donaire vs. Magdanelo - Oscar Valdez vs. Osawa - Zou Shiming vs. Kwanpichit Onesongchaigym A decent at very best type of card. Vargas might cause an upset and the undercard fight between Donaire and Magdaleno could be very interesting. Bottom line is that it's Pacquiao and you'll watch it. Nov. 12 - UFC 205 - Conor is fighting and it's one of the most stacked cards ever Nov. 19- Kovalev vs. Ward - Isaac Chilemba vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - Probably the most significant fight of the year in terms of P4P ranking. Nov. 26 - Joshua vs. TBA (Hopefully Klitschko) and Lomachenko vs. Walters. - Two great fights if they materialize. I can't remember the last time a month was this stacked with high quality fights from both sports.