Donaire is so much technically better than Gamboa. He'd expose him, in my opinion. Gamboa's beaten nobody, been floored by nobodies, his punches are flashy but inaccurate, unless rabbit-punching counts. I would bet Donaire stops him.
I know there's a brotherhood in the sport, even in the area of officiating, but watch and listen how Bayless handles the cut in the Morales/Cano fight. Above the crowd, above the announcers, you hear Bayless very clearly announce TIME IN after the doctor inspected Cano's eye.
In the main event you hear Cortez say "C'mon. Let's go," and then just after that, he asks the timekeeper if it's time in. Cortez was in ****ing Lalaland. Plain and simple. Bayless needs to ref every major fight in Vegas. He's the best in the business. Shouldn't be on an undercard bout.
Tip your hat, in the context he used it for the Dawson fight, meant say hello. Open up a bit and see what his gameplan is when you do. This way they see what Chad's up to and how they can use that knowledge.
That's my take on it anyway.
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@stigma: some of the blows hit the top of vics dome, correct.
First part of the fight I saw, since I was occupied on Saturday, was the YouTube video of the last round + post-fight interview. I was surprised by a bunch of things in that three minute span.
I was surprised that Mayweather was throwing so many punches; surprised that Ortiz was dodging some of them (at least partially); shocked that Ortiz walked through and landed some shots of his own; surprised about the headbutt.
And of course shocked at the ending. Thought it was bull****. Cortez is the absolute worst referee in the game. I don't want to start the debate of whether or not the fight was on when those punches were landed, but it's apparent to me that Cortez wasn't even sure himself. When the hook lands, he's not even looking at the fighters. He's looking at the time-keeper to confirm. I initially started to dislike him during the Hatton fight. I cried for his retirement during the Soto DQ. And this is just the worst, imo.
The majority of these .gifs show glancing blows that were turned with or ones that strayed over his head. If anything, I'd say it shows he was a bit off. But that's neither here nor there.
Ortiz's head and foot movement is nothing like Pacquiao's. He gets his gloves up under his chin, and dips from side to side. That's predictable. Pacquiao doesn't move with any sort of consistency like that. Victor looks like he's ducking under the training rope that taught him to bob and weave. Pac doesn't.
If Pacquiao fights Bradley, that's no problem. If Mayweather doesn't fight Ortiz, he's fair game too. I won't even speculate on the Pac/May **** because it makes my head hurt. Both sides are ridiculous. Mayweather and Co. got outted about their spread of lies by a mediating HBO and the drug testing on Pacquiao's side is a constant issue.
As long as they stay active instead of wasting the twilight of their careers, we have to appreciate that.
I worried about Khan for awhile, but I think he'd actually give Mayweather a very good fight. Both are very fast. Khan's got a great jab, nice combinations, and good foot movement. His chin has shown to not be completely brittle, which is good. He's an alright kid.
(Also, the world wouldn't stop if Floyd lost, because half the people who buy his pay-per-views buy them to see him get knocked out. There's a healthy contingency of fans who want nothing other than for him to lose. Media outlets as well. The only people who would be devastated would be the overzealous types.)
It's either negatively or has no effect.
It bolsters his resume with an official KO victory, but I mean, whether you're for the knockout or against it, you have to admit it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of people (casuals and experts alike). Unless they do a rematch and we see a legitimate KO, I think this hurts any sort of legacy not based purely on numbers. It's +1 W/KO at a glance, but if anyone cared to look I personally don't think it's an indisputable victory.
Enhances, can't see it any other way.
In what way? It enhances his resume with an extra win and an extra knockout, but when they marvel about his career years from now what exactly about the fight enhanced his profile? What could they say about the fight that would reflect positively? I can't think of anything.
I'd have to say Sergio Martinez. He started late. Developed a style all his own. He's very courteous. Uses his platform as a champion to draw attention to issues (battered women and such). He dedicated his Williams fight (first) to the memory of Forrest, whom he'd never met.
You can tell he's very aware of the fraternity of boxers and public perception and what he can do with the publicity and opportunities he's presented with. He'd get my vote.
There's logic in the post but it's somewhat flawed.
Pacquiao is respected for and gets hit because he mixes it up with his opponents. He's vulnerable. Catchweight arguments aside, the men he's fighting are naturally a lot bigger, so there's always a possibility of him getting hurt. He doesn't talk ****, just turns in his performances and let's the media and fans say what they will.
Floyd on the other hand, as his entire team is guilty of saying (and beating the phrase to death) writes checks that his ass can't cash. He used words like "brutal" and "massacre" to build the De La Hoya fight? I didn't see any such thing. He promises so much and in reality delivers so much less, so he's going to be judged more harshly, because he's trying to convince everyone with every word that he's the greatest fighter of all-time. Pacquiao doesn't.
In certain businesses, when dealing with deadlines, it's a common practice to project a date as far out as possible, because that way if you deliver it early, people are pleasantly surprised. If you insist you can have it done immediately, and then fail to meet the expectations, there's consequences. It's the same principle, really.
What a stand OP took to write that post. I mean, the sheer bravery of a Khan fan speaking out against Pacquiao. Somebody deserves a medal. What a joke. Even implying that you, by all rights, should like Pacquiao because he's friends with Khan is ridiculous. You're not breaking ground on some taboo. You're thinking logically. I'm guessing this is unusual. Congratulations.
Anyhow. If it's not apparent this fight is different than Mayweather/Marquez, please read:
Marquez has been begging Pacquiao for rematches the better part of his professional career. That's the first thing.
Mayweather manipulated the weights of their fight and then came in OVER the weight Marquez never agreed to in the first place. He thought it was a catchweight, just in case anyone forgot that whole debacle.
Pacquiao is fighting Marquez only five pounds above his normal weight, and this is a true blue rivalry that's spanned years. So five pounds isn't so farfetched.
Marquez hasn't "dropped off" like people like to say fighters do after they fight Floyd. He's still very much a great fighter. Not damaged goods or leftovers.
It really is a bull**** excuse. Floyd clearly dislikes and is increasingly vocal about De La Hoya but he has no problems working with GBP. He just goes through Schaefer. I can't recall beef between Mayweather and Todd DuBoef of Top Rank. Someone want to enlighten me?
Dibella comes across as an obnoxious pseudo-alcoholic, itching to land a legitimate great fighter. And he won't. Because he can't manage. Who has brought to the world stage recently? Berto?
He managed Morales for I believe his entire career, pre-comeback trail. He got him the right fights at the right time. Slowly built him up. Matched him against the right people. He did the same thing with Mayweather. The same with De La Hoya. The same with Pacquiao.
Granted, the fighters sell themselves with their performances, but matchmaking and exposure is no small feat. Everyone acts like De La Hoya and Floyd are self-made men, but they aren't. Arum successfully promoted the both of them to the point where they could break out on their own. Where did Floyd get the money to buy out his contract? How did Oscar pay the legal fees needed paying? See what I mean?
No, I don't think he should.
Arum gets a lot of **** around here about being a scumbag, being a liar, whatever. Truth be told, I think he's underappreciated. You look at the biggest names in boxing in the last five or ten years. Your big three: De La Hoya, Mayweather, and Pacquiao have all been brought up by Arum and Top Rank. His matchmakers know what they're doing, and he knows how to cultivate careers. He's been behind a wealth of great champions and he clearly knows what needs to be done.
Whether they, or you guys, like it or not Arum is directly responsible for the success and popularity of those three I mentioned, as well as countless others. Morales comes to mind. Etc.
Both Roy and Merchant mentioned unnecessary breaks. Lampley may have as well, can't recall.
As for a tenth round stoppage, I kind of agree with your assessment now, but can't recall thinking it last night during the actual fight. Whether that's because I was too busy anticipating a killshot, or whether it actually wasn't so bad, I can't be sure. The Maidana fan in me might say it should've been stopped, but the boxing fan is glad it didn't. Khan deserved the opportunity to prove his chin. And he did.
Dumb post. Knocked Cortez out with an elbow? Sad.
No mention of Khan's intentional and oh so blatant headbutt in the mid-rounds?
And no. The glove touch thing, after all pre-fight **** talking, it's whatever. First time I was surprised, but he just wanted to get the fight underway. Second time, it was shame on Khan.
Great fight though. Gained respect for both men.
Yeah, this was one of those fights where you gain respect for both regardless of the winner. Khan's guts and chin against arguably the best puncher in his division impressed. Maidana getting up from those two shots to the body in the first to make something of a rally late, also impressive. There wasn't a loser.
One thing I always sort of knew, but hadn't seen exemplified like it was last night: Maidana is a mean son of a *****. No glove touching, no respect, etc. It was interesting to watch.
He'd only beat Hatton, and I'm not even so sure. Pacquiao's key to success has been ridiculously quick foot movement, which Marquez, for all his amazing traits, does not have. They all beat him on sheer size.
It's great for the sport. We just need a steady stream of similar performances and conclusions to fights.
Khan/Maidana will probably make it in a couple weeks.