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if he fought better, sure he could he got frustrated and stopped throwing shots he was looking for 1 big shot to get a KO he was following Rigo instead of cutting him off if Nonito wasn't leading, he wasn't fighting much at all he's normally a better counterpuncher than he showed in this fight obviously, some of this was simply taken away from him by Rigo can't tell quite how much of it was just him showing up flat but if he was injured or struggling with weight, that's his fault in any case, he didn't look his best in the fight props to Rigo, but Nonito is certainly capable of fighting better This is all I'm saying basically....He is capable of fighting much better, will that get him a W...who knows, but it will def make the fight more competitive.

I actually think alot of you are wrong in believing rigo schools donaire 10/10 times. I believe that donaire was a victim of his own success and didn't really study rigo like he should have. He went into the fight believing that he would catch him easily and ko him sooner or later like he has done all recent previous opponents. If any of you are true boxing fans and have watched donaire enough, you would know that donaire is a counter puncher, so him trying to lead on top of him just looking for a homerun punch against a slick defensive counter puncher wasn't going to work. Unfortunately for donaire he wasn't prepared with a plan b, c, etc. rigo was slick and all the feints and movements both were doing just worked in rigo's favor. I don't think rigo's punching power really bothered donaire until the end of the fight, donaire just looked a lot slower then normal. I do believe rigo is a tad bit faster and quicker then donaire, but overall donaire can adjust to that with timing. I also believe he did have a hard time making weight, judging by previous fights where he is actually pretty quick with jumping in and out, he didn't do that at all in this fight, and he didn't cut off the ring because he didn't have that in a game plan. Overall, with coming in at a comfortable weight, and by knowing what to expect from rigo the fight will definitely be different. Rigo is gonna fight the same way 10/10 yes but donaire has the skills and is capable of adjusting with correct game plan and knowing what to expect this time around. I'm not buying the shoulder thing, but I will buy the weight issue and lack of time with robert garcia.

All I see is excuses. You sound worse than nonoto. Def not excuses, what I did was basically break down how Nonito just didn't adjust nor follow any game plan(s). part of it was rigo being slick and making the necessary adjustments but part of it was nonito just didn't know how to adjust correctly. He def has the talent and capabilities to adjust to be more effective, he just didn't. Now if he adjustments will get him a win, I'm not sure but it def will make the fight a lil more interesting.

What's sad is all u PAC lovers/Floyd haters..equates to the same things nowadays will take this and run with it like the writer paid y'all. I'm still trying to figure out why out of all people will they cover for Floyd. This writer is obviously looking for some attention, and the sad part is he's going to get it with lawsuits if he doesn't have the "so called waiver" that USADA supposedly have mayweather. Another attempt by some idiot writer who doesn't like Floyd, golden boy and all affiliates. Prob on bob arums payroll...lol

Get your facts together fanboy erik morales tested positive for a banned substance but it wasn't peds, it was a substance that helped him shed weight. Unfortunately it still was a substance on the banned list. If you're going to attack folks for taking up for a fighter and bring in your logic at least have your facts straights...thank you

I'm still tryna figure out who he ducked....he fought all current champions, doesn't matter if he only fights once a year..you idiots that say he's not an atg cause he only fights once a year, sound stupid af....fan of mayweather or not, you have to respect his skills and accomplishments. Only person he never fought was margarito, and thank god he didn't cause dude was cheating...but he made more money fighting the current champion Baldomir..so someone with some sense, please bring a legitimate argument.. oh and the fact that he hasn't fought pacquiao, you can blame both fighters for that, along with Bob arum...so besides pac, he has fought corrales, hatton, mosely, judah, cotto, marquez, ortiz, delahoya... mitchell, corley..all these fighters were during his era. i think some of you hater/non true boxing fans fail to realize that he's 36 not 26 so he has been fighting all the fighters during his time, not the ones that just started getting a name/the ones you non boxing fans just started watching. only true boxing fans respond with a legitimate case please....

You sound stupid and in the words of roger mayweather " you don't know **** about boxing" he allowed the CHAMP the opportunity to cont fighting. Because he got up before 10 and wanted to cont. He knows what type of fighter Alvarado is, he's the champ and he was at home. You don't end a fight like this, like that idiot. And as far as the corner, once again he knows what type of fighter Alvarado is so he wanted to make sure it was mikes decision..great ****in ref job, def top ref in the business alongside bayless, and the big head older white guy..can't think of his name right now.. But you need to go sit the **** down with ur thought process and crying about the ref dude

Just for ****s and giggles, please tell me who Floyd avoided? and also please explain to me who actually called floyd out, publicly with supplying some proof such as a link or something . post that, or post actual facts after you look up the word in the dictionary cause the word you're using isn't fact, it's your opinion. Put up proof, or stfu basically. and that's not being a fan of anyone,that's just shutting up a dumb f'er who says anything in these threads. @- Righteous -

Is using your elbow part of boxing?Simply put if Marcos Maidana did what Mayweather did in a fight he would be the dirtiest fighter ever just because its Mayweather its being chalked down to craftiness You sound stupid and obv don't know **** about boxing(in my roger mayweather voice) victor was frustrated early. Floyd was tagging him with right hands at will, victor couldn't connect and got frustrated early. Its what floyd does, frustrates his opponents, the diff is victor is young and immature and didn't handle being frustrated well... He was gonna lose anyway, max 7 rds, dudes face was already busted up. Most of y'all just don't know **** about boxing, yalls job is to hate on floyd as if ur getting paid to...Hating is super wack dude get a new job

Wrong!!!!!!!

Floyd will either get KTFO in the third round or get brutalized for twelve rounds. Can't wait. :unitedsta I don't post in here enough to bet you...if it was worth it and if you were actually confident that this is what will happen, I'd bet you real money instead of bogus web site points. def won't be the case come sept 14th though.. when is the last time Canelo has stopped an elite fighter...wait, he's only fought 1 in trout..ok

Ortiz was soo much bigger, he started to get inside and hurt/frustrate Floyd, hence the sucker punch He did? what fight were you watching? how many punches did ortiz even land in that fight..tell me that then talk about that fight dude...

what's funny to me is all of a sudden we have a ton of boxing experts. All of a sudden everyone in here as worked on floyds hands to know how brittle they are. yes it is true floyd has hands problems, but last time I checked most knockouts come from punches you don't see, not necessarily the hardest punches. Sure tons of knockouts come from hard hitting heavy handed punchers, but the other % come from punches you don't see. is it possible floyd will can knock canelo out, yes. Just like it's possible canelo can knock floyd out, it's boxing. It will go to the cards, canelo will give floyd problems for a few rds, and then floyd will figure him out and pot shot him all night, which may end up in a stoppage from canelos trainers. great fight ahead of us though, we shall see how it plays out.

You sound ****in stupid and obviously not a true boxing fan... I'm so sick of PAC fans coming into these threads. Everyone that PAC fought beyond jmm has been past their prime besides a slow David Diaz, and his current opponent Tim Bradley. So stop the ****ing comparisons. Whats sad is PAC became well known only after he fought everyone that Floyd had already beaten. So if Floyd hasn't really fought anyone....who in the hell has PAC fought..... U lames come in these threads not having a bit of information, you became a fan of boxing when PAC became popular which means you don't know ****!!!!

Manny gets a guarantee of about 20mil.....but when the fight is over and Ppv comes in he gets about another 5-7 mil..his guarantee is basically all his money because arum keeps the majority of the money....see most people are saying mammy gets such and such after Ppv comes in, but people forget, manny has a promoter who controls the $$$...Floyd controls all of his $

You sound dumb as hell.... PAC will never make more money then Floyd....Floyd is his own boss and manny has a boss who takes the biggest pie of the money... What most of y'all are forgetting is that manny also has to pay promoter fees... He doesn't make 25 a fight he prob gets about 15...and his numbers don't be better then Floyd's Ppv...check your facts homebody...their ppvs with the same fighters and Floyd did much better...check on that duesch

You sound dumb as hell dude....to all the haters in this thread which 95% of yall are floyd haters, so why yall are even in the thread is beyond my understanding, but that is what yall do. Find any thread with floyds name on it and jump in just to hate. if you don't like the man stop paying for his ppvs and stop jumping in threads about him. To me yall all have female traits. At the end of the day he gets credit and another win. He was winning every round and the fight would have been stopped by round 8 or 9. Victors eye was about to close after 4 rounds and he was too easy to hit. So imagine more rounds, where he would have gotten more aggressive like you idiots claim he was in round 4 and would have gotten tagged repeatedly for it. Floyd is the smartest boxer in todays era of boxing, he was setting victor up to be more aggressive so he could counter. It was just too easy......so you haters stop dick riding the man and stop out of his threads, yall sound like b*tches

Exactly you point out exactly what I see/saw. Mosley did not get old over night but we all knew that would be the excuse afterwards. Mosley didn't want to get countered. After the 2nd he spent the rest of the fight trying to figure out how to punch without getting countered. I think a lot of fast fighters think oh I'm fast I can hit him, floyds not faster then me...But its not only that he's fast but he's so damn quick and on top of his timing. Also Pac has no jab, everybody knows pac and roach are counting on a lucky shot, or for him to throw 200 punches a round and floyd throw his 48 and they'll win...LMAO I laugh @ this cause Manny will get frustrated just like the other 41 and he'll get knocked out..everybodys biggest punch against manny is a right hand. Clottey even had success when he did throw it, Floyd would pick Manny apart hands down.

I agree with a lot of the statements made in this thread. I believe pacman is a real good fighter I take nothing away from him like all the fmj try to take away from him...There's no point, if you know anything about boxing and didn't just jump on the pac bandwagon then you have to give credit when credit is due...Pac is a really good fighter, but floyd is an amazing fighter hands down. With that being said Pac makes a lot of makes a lot of them. He will have to fight a perfect fight and even then I personally don't think he can win. The fight will look similar to the jmm fight. The thing is floyd dictates what the other fighter does. They be so afraid of getting countered they think too hard on what to ddo, and/or get frustrated and start throwing bombs and get countered all night. Pac will do this, pac doesn't have the ability to adjust or think in he ring he depends on roach who can't get in there with him, so it'll be a long night for them and I have a feeling roach will throw in the towel late in the fight to stop the punishment and embarassment...Just my opinion

I'm just going to end any convos with puga, wasting my breath arguing with some kid who claims to hate Floyd yet can't stop talking about him, and has no knowledge of his fights or styles saying he ran against genaro, yet he made genaro quit just further proves my statement, thank you YeAh it's a waste of time going back and forth with dude. You can't debate with people who don't really know boxing. I stopped a while ago..just saw that you were making good points...people that hate Floyd bring him more money then people like us who appreciate his artwork as a boxer...so let them hate..lol

I can tell puga is not a true fan of boxing. Most of the people who be in these threads aren't though so it's not just you. Regardless if you're a Floyd fan or not you have to respect the science of boxing and how great he is at it. Most may not like him as a person but to try to discredit him in any way as a boxer to me is just plain dumb, and it shows you don't know boxing. Floyd is the best at defense, timing, and adjusting. The object of boxing is hit and not get hit.... non-boxing fans y'all call it running..lmao(prime example of idiots who don't know boxing). Floyd didn't go on queer street or whatever you said...he got caught with a good shot and adjusted like my man j dub ii 330 said. He walked Shane down and took his confidence. Most fighters lose their confidence against Floyd because they can't hit him much..doesn't smarter if you throw more punches then him if you're missing and he's connecting with 55-60% of his punches.. Do ya boxing homework before you talk people...

Why do y'all call it "running" please explain this to me, cause I'm lost...and I box. Just as a workout but I don't understand yalls def of running...once again boxing is hit and not get hit...ring generalship is what I call it....and if a fighter is good enough he'll know how to cut the ring off so that his opponent can't "run" as y'all say..

You people irritate me with these post...at the end of the day, love or hate him all of you will still watch his fights. Regardless of what is showed on 24/7 95% of u will watch him. So stop with all of the hating...its getting extremely old, and irritating

I wonder why nobody criticizes old bopkins when he talks more shit than any boxer out there today and has the most boring fights ever. I can't remember the last time he knocked somebody out, or even had a decent fight.

Cool but that was at 140. My question was really for 147. After Cotto became elite and hit the P4P ratings after beating Mosley. And, after Floyd beat Hatton. That is when the fight should of been made would not agree? Not at 140... there is a lot of should have in boxing dude, let it go. Look around for the article, fmj tried to fight cotto after he destroyed gotti and yes cotto was there, and evangelista said cotto wasn't ready based on the way gotti got his ass wiped. Hatton said the same thing at the time...furthermore bob arum promotes cotto, bod arum owed fmj money so it will always be hard to make a fight with bob arum...If you know boxing you would know that...

Welterweight b.s. What I can't understand is why this 6'3-6'4 dude wants to continue to fight welterweights. Everybodys quick to down floyd for fighting smaller opponents but what is this dude tryna do........fight all smaller guys. why won't he fight the guys his height and the natural weight he should be fighting @ which is 154 and above. He fought at middle weight or whatever the sergio martinez fight was @ and he damn near got his ass handed to him so now he wants to go back down and fight guys 5-7 inchs shorter in height, and like 8 inch shorter in arm length and reach. Come on now no matter who he's fighting outside of margacheato and cintron he's too too big for. And he still towers them two. This is hilarious to me, but everybody always callin this dude a killer, or the most dodged. Come on now, ain't no reason why dude is trying to fight @ 147. Pick on people your own size, and this is much worst than floyd so called cherry pickin smaller opponents, this is far worst. He's too big and nobody wants to see this fact but me I guess... Shame:duh:

What are you talking about,De La Hoya was much bigger the night of the fight with Pacquiao.Manny weighed more than Oscar on the night of the fight.Oscar was barely 147lbs to Manny's 1481/4 on fight night.Oscars body was so messed up from try'n to make welterweight Freddy Roach admitted to seeing IV marks on Oscar's arm that was still bleeding when the two fighters came to the center of the ring for instructions.They were try'n to pump fluids back into Oscar body seconds before the fight because his body was unable to rehydrate like normal. Thank you and cotto was even smaller at 145 so tell dude to get his ****in facts straights. That's all pac and them do make fighters fight at a catch weight, now I'm guessin they think pac is finally ready to fight at 147 instead of some bullshit catch weight...Pac, Roach and Arum do a good job of covering up the fact that they hand pick their opponents. They only pick people tailored made for Pac..Look at the history.

I agree with this 100%, your casual boxing fan(twitter, and/or fb person) these are the only people who feel that fmj last outing was horrible. To me if you don't understand the true form of boxing, and the art that it is when it's being displayed like he does and/or can do then just don't comment on it. I can't sit here and say don't watch boxing, but just leave the ratings and comments to TRUE fans.. But that would be in a perfect world right..lol

Without even reading any comments I'm more then positive that 95% of y'all are fmj haters which means y'all tried to dissect any and every thing he said...smgdh! Y'all are getting horrible.

Y'all sound stupid as hell and need to be banned from posting comments...layed the blueprint, really? Go watch the replay kid, cuz obviously somebody was standing in ur way for the entire fight...floyd was whoopin that boys ass, plain and simple....u fags need to stop trying to find any and every excuse to discredit fmj its really getting old....stop watching boxing if u don't know **** about it.