Overwhelming support on social media. Fury has conquered America.
It's funny seeing the Wilder stans cry about it.
He conquered the US 2 years ago.
Stop making this about nations. This is about boxing.
Fury is the better, more appealing, more entertaining fighter and he owns Wilder. Objectively, Fury is the draw.
Ali frazier ? Cmon now it goes down as what it is ..two big clumsy gassed heavyweights
vitali vs Lewis was far better action in 6 round than these guys gave us in 33 rounds
In 33 rounds we had about 10 minutes of action the rest clumsy missed punches and clinching
Clumsy, gassed HWs?
Try skilled fighters, the slickest wizard in the history of the division vs the most deadly puncher the planet has ever known. Outside of Tyson. High level boxing. A poetic bloodbath.
This was Marquez vs Pac 4 tier
Sweet Jesus.
WILDER IS AN IRON JAWED WARRIOR
So is Fury. God damn that was insane
It's up there with Maidana/Broner, Castillo/Corrales, Tyson/Holyfield, Ali/Frazier, JMM/Manny.
No question.
We witnessed history. A classic.
I don't mind PPV for a big event where I can get a bunch of friends to come over, chip in 5-10 bucks, and have a good time. The problem is that the bar for PPV is lower than the bar for casuals. My friends don't care about Crawford-Porter, for example - but I do. I'll watch fights every weekend, but they won't. This is important to me also - if I "sell" friends on coming over for a fight where they know nothing about the boxers nor have any excitement for it, there's this kind of pressure for the fight and the undercard to be entertaining. I don't want to play promoter, I want to sit back with a cold beer and watch the fights.
Also, since I'm a student I can't afford buying a PPV on my own more than a couple of times a year, even with my job and whatnot. I make enough to cover tuition and living expenses, so when choosing between investing in myself or in boxing I'm faced with a pretty clear choice.
Where do you live? Wouldn't mind having you over for a fight sometime and a few beers, it's rare I get to watch fights with another big fight fan.
I was hoping somebody could clarify because I only see two ways and neither appears valid.
1) Fury becomes lineal after beating Klitschko, retires for three years and returns with his status being upheld regardless of his absence which is bogus or;
2) in Dec 2018 Fury vs Wilder I was considered the establishment of a new lineage with both men being rated #1 and #2? In Dec 2018 Joshua had the WBO, WBA, IBF, belts with wins over Klitschko, Povetkin, Parker, White, Takam which surpasses anything Wilder had done so did the whore RING magazine have Wilder rated at 1 or 2 at that point in time?
He beat the man who beat the man. Took Lineal title from Wlad, a lineage unbroken since Sullivan.
Just imagine how good if he took 6 months to get his body In shape and all that extra fat gone. He doesn’t care about his body it seems at least this time. Was he not motivated for this fight?
He is in shape, boyo.
The man can sling leather for 12 hard rounds.
One thing is conditioning and stamina, another is physique.
1. Fury
2. Usyk
3. Wilder
4. Joshua
5. Ruiz
What a garbage heavyweight era we have
The Klitschkos were the last true great heavyweights
Garbage because you say so?
Wlads era was weak, this is a strong era.
And those names are your list. If we look at most top 20 lists, there are a bunch of good fights to be made.
Weak division was the excuse the haters made when Fury bodied Wlad.
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Now you want to push that old narrative after several of the most competitive and exciting fights in probably 20 years? Laughable.
Fury
Povetkin
Ortiz Jr
Anderson
Sanchez
Coffie
Ajagba
Helenius
Usyk
Whyte
AJ
Joyce
Parker
Wallin
Yoka
Berlanga
Then people who half of these clowns would swear are bums, or shells, but who actually are competitive against 1/3 or greater odds the above list:
Arreola
Ustinov
Scott
Kownacki
a slew of fights can be made with just these names, big fights, and barn burners.
You don't even know why you think it's a weak era, you just repeat drivel some other mong rambled off. How is it a weak division? I'll take the champion of this era and put him against any champ from any other era.
Fury is elite
Szpilka was euro level at best.
Exactly.
Fury is there, and then he isn't. He is like a Saiyan. You see him but you can't hit him and when he hits you, you rethink your whole career, your whole life.
Hit and don't be hit, float like a butterfly, sting like a warhead.
Fury is not hard to hit anymore, and? Although he had a better defensive under Peter Fury, Kiltschko could of fought a better offensive fight.
Lennox Lewis is hitting Tyson Fury, no problem.
Fury is not stronger than Lennox Lewis, and does not hit as hard.
Fury didn't need to move much against Wilder once he realized he could take his punches, but he also wasn't at his best last fight physically, it was rather clear. You'll see Fury stick and move when he fights Usyk, or any other fighter where it makes sense to force on the front foot at times. Fury took the fight to Wilder. Fury also has too much depth to his game, and ring IQ to ever be rendered one dimensional.
Fury would slip just about everything Lennox throws and break him down with body punches, and straights down the pipe.
Im from America so please help me understand it.
I'm also from the US, but my guess is:
Prejudice against gypsies
he's a real one who speaks his kind, in today's soft PC world, that's frowned upon
First I just want to give appreciation to Wilder for showing tons of guts but the fact of the matter is, he's not a true boxer.
He's just a really athletic person who's been gifted with enormous punching power. But he knows no defense. He doesn't know how to clinch. He doesn't know how to counter punch. He doesn't know how to slip or dodge a punch. Look at his resume. A lot of his KO's were against B level boxers with the only exception of Luis Ortiz who was at the time recognized as the biggest threat in the HW division.
Wilder throws wide ass hail mary punches similarly to what you would see in a street fight compilation video.
Defense is the best offense and Wilder has none of it. The only reason Wilder beats Joshua is because Joshua is too much of a coward to take any risks in his fights.
Offense is the best defense.
Don't change the phrase to fit your argument.
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But I do agree that Wilders flaws make the fight more entertaining.
But to a purist, and I consider myself a purist, we love high level chess matches between two ring wizards. I don't think if Wilder was a more skilled boxer, the fight would have been boring. Not to me. And skilled boxers can also go to war. Boxing isn't a street fight, but make no mistake, it is a fight.
As far as resumes go, Wilder definitely came up fighting cans, but he ended up with some decent names on his resume. Stiverne, King Kong, Fury are all quality opponents. AJ didn't want the smoke or he'd be a W as well.
This will get locked and quickly if it becomes an excrement flinging fest, but this is what I will say on the matter: getting the vaccine is a responsibility, and your freedoms mean jack if the decision in question puts others at risk. No reasonably healthy person has an excuse.
Hi guys this is 2x Heavyweight Champ here to answer fan questions from around the internet. More question and answers coming soon. Please feel free to ask anything
Thanks for joining NSB, champ.
My question:
What's the first thing you look for in your opponent, round 1?
Yessir, when I'm out of medical school and making doctor money I probably won't complain much about PPV anymore. I have to say, I had people over for Fury-Wilder, casuals, some of whom it was the first fight card they've ever seen - and that fight, the first they really sat down and watched. If Canelo-Plant can follow it up, maybe I'll have converted some folks
Just outside of Hartford, CT brother! If you're in the area would totally be down!
Well I'm in California at the moment but not forever, I'll keep in touch as a move to the east coast is possible.
I find that with any sport, first time viewers need to understand what they are looking at before they can appreciate it and thus get excited about it. I remember back when I first started really paying attention to boxing, it's when I realized they aren't just swinging for the fences, and once I started to see the chess match that I got obsessed with it.
Fury wipes the ring with Lennox. It would be a late, violent stoppage. Too fast, too intelligent, too gifted, and untouchable.
Like Fury said about AJ years back: Lennox would have to through a handful of rice to hit Fury.
Pretty lousy fighters compared to past guys at the top of the HW division.
One guy hasn't improved at all looks like he stepped into a boxing gym 6 months ago making a career off of a hard right hand.
Another guy who is a clunky awkward pillow puncher with decent athleticism for his size but just the very basic skills.
Name one fighter in HW division history who you would favor against Fury in a 12-15 rounder. Just one. I'll wait.
I think fury is a great fighter but I would be hard pressed to pick him against Lennox lewis or the greatest muhammad ali . I mean I know size would be an issue for ali but that guy in his prime overcame alot of GREAT fighters...its hard to pick against him at his best . I would pick lennox to stop fury he bulldozed taller fighters .but I agree fury is tough to pick against anyone so is vit klit . But that's just head to head . Furys legacy isnt finished yet and vitali was hugely lacking in that department , but vitali would be another guy who I think could beat fury . Come to think of it I think the bowe who fought vander the first time would be a very tough out for fury too and I would slightly favour him aswell
Fair points. Good post.
I'd still favor Fury over Ali, I think Fury would out jab him from the outside and keep up with him and win a close UD.
I think Fury also beats Lewis, but in a war. If Fury can get up from Wilders flush shots, he should be able to survive getting hit flush from Lewis, but I see Fury frustrating him with his jab and feints and losing the exchanges to ultimately lose a comfy UD, if the refs don't wave it off due to accumulated punishment.
He doesn't want that smoke. He'll delay it again, Chisora will say f it and he'll rematch that guy he'll fight Dave Allen instead. I'll tell you all in one word what Usyk is doing...STALLING.
Smells like duck and walks like one but I hope you're wrong.
Chisora is a good first test for him, solid gatekeeper ceiling type fighter.
Usyk could prove to be a threat to everyone in the division if he can take HW power punches.
You sound supremely confident. I'll offer it up just once more, you take Fury,I'll take Wilder. Loser never posts on NSB again. No alts, no BS just gone. Got the stones this time?
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Mods cant bet their accounts boyo, told you this many times.
Wilder will go home in a body bag. Heard it here first.
Eleider Alvarez probably hits harder than Gypsy-Bum, in spite of the 100+ pound weight advantage Tyson has over the LHW.
John Fury said in an interview that Wilder couldn't beat Fury with a hammer in each hand.
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Easy to say after the fact. Been around since 2012 and still a red k loaded douche bag....
For the record, Fury whipped Wilders ass and that’s that
Who wins the 3rd fight?
I love all the pageantry of boxing.
When a fighter talks shit fans cant help but to feel some type of way about it, either they love it or hate, but it emotionally charges them and causes them to invest a lil something more than just your viewership it forces apart of you to be invested in the fight its the reason these fighters are rooted for heavy or hated heavy. You just have to look at broner to see that, Hes been a dud for the past years but still his fights are some of the top viewed fights cause of that "PERSONA" of his, he has everyone feeling some type of way either for or against him all cause of his shit talking, you/we/us are invested in him so we watch his fights when his fights don't really matter at this point, we only care cause ITS BRONER and his persona made that happen not his boxing.
I agree here.
Yes, we all tune in for the fights, but the build up, the drama, the personalities, the hype, it's all part of it.
And HBO 24/7 is hard to replace, they did a good job of bringing it all together.
Canelo fanboys can't sleep knowing GGG is the undisputed greatest MW to lace them up. Caught up to B-Hops record like it was nothing. Beat every lion put in front of him and was ducked like the plague. Forced Ward to retire.
History will remember him as a top 30 fighter all time. A real monster of his era.
Fury doesn't sit down on his punches. He has "big man" power, not true heavyweight power like Wilder, Klitschko or Dubois. He can wear you down like he did Chisora, but that's not happening with Wilder
Wilders chin will be tested early, and often.
Fury ''beat'' a ready to retire Wlad. NEITHER OF THEM ''fought'' as if they cared about winning (I use the term fought very loosely when it comes to that snorefest).
What other quality guy has Fury faced ?
It's your right to pick whoever you think will win but to say Fury's resume is better than ANYONES is a joke.
Only Ortiz is above Cunningham's level.