The facts are Wilder has fought all tomato cans then ducked Wlad for the easier BUMAne Stiverne WBC belt route, Bumane bieng anther tomato can. Then he fought a 50 year old cuban who actually might be 60 twice and had tough fights against him losing all the rounds in the rematch. His Fury fight was based on a failed cherry picked hoping Fury less than 12 months into his comeback would be finished after losing 100 pounds and bieng on drugs. It went wrong.
100% Fury is beating Wilder.
Do not be hyponotized by his power or his resume.
The hate he is going to get after this rematch will be hard to handle for him. He's legit, but only when it comes to pasting all these other useless heavyweights who stand in front of him, Fury not bieng one of them.
I'm pretty sure Foreman could come out of retirement now and still beat Stiverne. That big useless lump.
After seeing my math mistake, I believe draw was right decision. At the end of the day I see Wilder ko Fury this time.
Wilder has enough ring iq to adjust to what he saw the first time
But still not even half of Fury's boxing IQ.
I don't expect the puncher to do the better adjustments.
And what you see or what happens in the rematch doesn't change the fact that Fury got robbed of one of the best comeback in boxing history and should have won IMO
The fact that Wilder's fans and his team were happy with the draw says it all.
Regarding the rematch I don't know what will happen TBH, because Fury has unbelievable talent and Wilder has unbelievable power.
It's either Wilder by ko or Fury by decision.
So both men are under pressure, Wilder needs a KO, Fury needs to avoid a KO, not an easy task for both as we saw in the first fight.
Fury was one second away to lose by KO and Wilder basically should have lost the decision IMO
Wilder is pressured too, he needs to KO Fury to win and already failed once trying so.
He was fighting a man who was 400 lbs 10 months before the fight and could not land his best punch before the 9th. Not a good look.
Don't be surprised if Wilder takes a beating.
Nothing surprising at all if Wilder ices Fury, agreed.
Just reading some of the comments on the video that you posted, apparently PBC silence the sound of Fury’s punches, made Wilder’s punches sound louder, then silent Paulie M commentary of the fight. One poster said he messages them after watching their version of the video, they then deleted it and re-upload with a new version. They did that to place the narrative that Wilder won. No wonder some of the posters on here are so into PBC/Haymon, that man is a genius. They would march like soldiers to heaven for him. I don’t blame them, the man went to Harvard I heard, and most of them.... Well
Still Wilder took a schooling.
Props to him for coming back and dropping twice the big man.
I respect Wilder as a fighter.
All I'm saying is, if the gipsy king is in much better shape and is stronger than the first fight, then Wilder is in a world of trouble.
Because weither we like it or not, Fury was 400 lbs one year because this fight, it doesn't help at all at the highest level.
Wilder will be a threat for Tyson every second of the fight, but I believe that Tyson will be even more dominant in the rematch, and will win if they see the final bell.
If he get clipped clean by Wilder, goodbye Tyson
Fury ''beat'' a ready to retire Wlad. NEITHER OF THEM ''fought'' as if they cared about winning (I use the term fought very loosely when it comes to that snorefest).
What other quality guy has Fury faced ?
It's your right to pick whoever you think will win but to say Fury's resume is better than ANYONES is a joke.
Only Ortiz is above Cunningham's level.
Its interesting I feel Wilder has gotten better, I have a gut feeling Wilder is going to knock him out he has had a better prep for this rematch and he is mentally stronger than before.
I think Wilder has gotten better also. Still I think there’s a chance he can always run out of time, especially against Fury. But Fury will have to be good all night while Wilder only needs to good for a second. That being said Fury did get up in that 12th, but the ref coulda just as easily assumed it was over and yanked that mouth guard out. Fury will be given the benefit of the doubt to get up if he goes down hard again. I don’t like this talk of Fury supposedly coming in heavier on purpose. That’s just an old boxing joke. I assume he just came into camp heavy. I know Wilder will be lean and mean. Like most things I’ll know more after the weigh in. If Fury weighs in wearing a sombrero and a tank top...
Just reading some of the comments on the video that you posted, apparently PBC silence the sound of Fury’s punches, made Wilder’s punches sound louder, then silent Paulie M commentary of the fight. One poster said he messages them after watching their version of the video, they then deleted it and re-upload with a new version. They did that to place the narrative that Wilder won. No wonder some of the posters on here are so into PBC/Haymon, that man is a genius. They would march like soldiers to heaven for him. I don’t blame them, the man went to Harvard I heard, and most of them.... Well
Are people actually fans of promoters? Is this really a thing now? Or is it a thing like all of those “urban kids” meaning the black kids? I like boxers and definitely not promoters. If you’re a fan of a promoter you’re just as bad as these fighters not wanting to fight the other side.
that's not true at all, everybody spreading this around, but a KD give you 1 point PERIOD
not 2, it's not a guaranteed 10-8, you have to win the round to get the second point, otherwise it's a 9-9 rounds.
And the fact that Wilder won the 9th and the 12th is debatable.
Because Tyson went back from the KD to boxes his ear off again.
TBH I just rewatched this fight today.
There is version without commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7k_JcxW01Q
Wilder got outboxed Silly, it's just embarrassing to him.
The KDs saved his honour, because it was a schooling through 36 minutes on his own home soil.
His team celebrated the draw, and hell, they should...
After seeing my math mistake, I believe draw was right decision. At the end of the day I see Wilder ko Fury this time.
Wilder has enough ring iq to adjust to what he saw the first time
Don't xenophobic posters making clichéd remarks about teeth (where did all that nonesense come from??) get banned around here?
Insulting someone's teeth when you can't even count... Talk about embarrassing...
Mistakes were made. I get it. Only slightly embarrassing.
You did the math wrong, you retarded clown.
You don't add extra rounds to Wilder's score for the knockdowns.
If you gave Wilder 5 rounds, that's 113 points ... the same score Fury would get for winning 7 rounds with a point deducted for each knockdown.
Mistakes were made I accept that part. But when u wake u u a beithch for lyfe
He's not going to be able to win a lot of rounds against skilled boxers, Fury included, but he definitely can win. Fury should be the slight favorite and is the safer bet but Wilder always has a chance. Look at the shots that dropped Fury in there 9th. Not even clean shots, just grazing ones at the temple and it dropped Fury. Wilder cannot coming swinging wild like he did early in the first fight and will have to trust his jab. Also needs to lower his punch target and anticipate Fury ducking low the same way.
Fury has more skills no doubt, but Wilder just needs to time him one time.
Great fight on paper. Not sure who I'm going with yet. Leaning ever slightly towards a Wilder 6th-8th rd stoppage atm.
It doesn't make much difference to me who win since I like them about the same. I don't understand how you can be so 100% certain Fury will win when Wilder can KO him at any time and came within a second of KOing him in the first fight. Does this mean you will be betting a huge amount of money on Fury since you believe he can't possibly lose?
If he can’t possibly beat him, go all in with whatever money you have or can raise. Sounds like 02/22/20 is gonna be your lucky day. Sadly I don’t have that kind of confidence, I give an in shape Fury about a 60% chance, less than 50% if he is really 270+
This idiot is calling me daft. U are the laughing stock on boxing scene. Did the math Kunt. 10-8 is 2 points. Another is 4 point.
3 more point put u at 7 rounds.
I guess Brits can't count. Only go as high as the few green teeth they have in their disgusting mouths
Don't xenophobic posters making clichéd remarks about teeth (where did all that nonesense come from??) get banned around here?
Insulting someone's teeth when you can't even count... Talk about embarrassing...
that's not true at all, everybody spreading this around, but a KD give you 1 point PERIOD
not 2, it's not a guaranteed 10-8, you have to win the round to get the second point, otherwise it's a 9-9 rounds.
And the fact that Wilder won the 9th and the 12th is debatable.
Because Tyson went back from the KD to boxes his ear off again.
TBH I just rewatched this fight today.
There is version without commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7k_JcxW01Q
Wilder got outboxed Silly, it's just embarrassing to him.
The KDs saved his honour, because it was a schooling through 36 minutes on his own home soil.
His team celebrated the draw, and hell, they should...
Just reading some of the comments on the video that you posted, apparently PBC silence the sound of Fury’s punches, made Wilder’s punches sound louder, then silent Paulie M commentary of the fight. One poster said he messages them after watching their version of the video, they then deleted it and re-upload with a new version. They did that to place the narrative that Wilder won. No wonder some of the posters on here are so into PBC/Haymon, that man is a genius. They would march like soldiers to heaven for him. I don’t blame them, the man went to Harvard I heard, and most of them.... Well
This idiot is calling me daft. U are the laughing stock on boxing scene. Did the math Kunt. 10-8 is 2 points. Another is 4 point.
3 more point put u at 7 rounds.
I guess Brits can't count. Only go as high as the few green teeth they have in their disgusting mouths
You did the math wrong, you retarded clown.
You don't add extra rounds to Wilder's score for the knockdowns.
If you gave Wilder 5 rounds, that's 113 points ... the same score Fury would get for winning 7 rounds with a point deducted for each knockdown.
He already beat Fury but got played in the cards. With 2 knock down Wilder only needs 3 round to win. He won 2,4,8 decisively.
Round 1 was tough call and a few other close rounds. Did Fury make Wilder look bad at times, yes. Did Wilder do enough for a clear victory, absolutely.
that's not true at all, everybody spreading this around, but a KD give you 1 point PERIOD
not 2, it's not a guaranteed 10-8, you have to win the round to get the second point, otherwise it's a 9-9 rounds.
And the fact that Wilder won the 9th and the 12th is debatable.
Because Tyson went back from the KD to boxes his ear off again.
TBH I just rewatched this fight today.
There is version without commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7k_JcxW01Q
Wilder got outboxed Silly, it's just embarrassing to him.
The KDs saved his honour, because it was a schooling through 36 minutes on his own home soil.
His team celebrated the draw, and hell, they should...
This idiot is calling me daft. U are the laughing stock on boxing scene. Did the math Kunt. 10-8 is 2 points. Another is 4 point.
3 more point put u at 7 rounds.
I guess Brits can't count. Only go as high as the few green teeth they have in their disgusting mouths
Lol...another one of these.
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