Do you think Fury cheated in the 2nd Wilder fight?

What do all of the glovegate people have to say now?

I think as much as Wilder is off his rocker and a lot of it is ridiculous I feel Furys gloves are highly suspicious. I've owned, handled, seen enough pairs of gloves to see something isn't quite right with them. They're almost at a 90 degree angle ffs which tells me his hand must be far down the glove towards the wrist as you sure as **** aren't bending your hand back like that while wearing a pair of gloves that haven't been broken in. The cuff of a glove is very rigid to protect the wrist and keep it straight and to absorb shock, there is obviously some give in them but they are not flexible anywhere near that extent. Maybe an extremely cheap pair of kids gloves might be but not a pair of championship quality, custom Everlast filled with horsehair. The manner he is throwing shots also is very telling. There is zero padding in the palm of a glove & it looks to me like he is purposely trying to land with it. Egg weights, probably not but it sure as **** probably felt like it. How many pair of horse hair gloves do you own? How many pair of Reyes MX? Id wager none. Horse hair gloves are surprisingly floppy, and the hair works its way out from the knuckles in a fight. Go buy a pair, see for yourself. Shockingly, gloves made in the style of the 1920s with virtually zero wrist support that allow you to completely open you hand flat are... floppy Almost every glove controversy revolves around Reyes MX gloves not looking like people who are use to foam stuffed gloves expect gloves to look like and behave. They are not stiff, they are are flexible like oven mitts. There is a reason why fighters with hand problems don't fight in Reyes MX gloves. If you want to debate if horse hair gloves should be allowed, thats a legitimate conversation, but ignorance about how different horse hair gloves are from foam gloves is no excuse for making blanket statements like that. If you want to debate about if horse hair gloves should be legal, Id be on the side of no, they probably shouldn't be. But they are. Also Reyes MX do not have stiff wrist. They are not grants, they are incredibly soft. Imagine a glove that is just stuffed with cotton balls. Thats basically what they are.

Wilder is about 3 hours from realizing he's going to be Tyson Fury's beetch, again. What happens after that? Since he can't win, what will he do? Foul his way out? I personally hope he sticks it out and gets counted out on the floor, teats up in the air. I'd respect him more for that.

https://i.imgur.com/3G2DQT3.gif https://i.imgur.com/gRd7FbI.gif Now we all know Kenny Bayless deducted Tyson a point for some strange reason, but if you follow the trail of evidence, Tyson's cheating Deontay goes back to the first fight. I find it laughable that some 'fans' are offended that the integrity of Tyson Fury and the boxing establishment is questioned. These salty fans are either feigning ignorance, dumb, or gullible nitwits. I would have more respect for these immoral bias fans if they came out and admitted that they dont care if Fury cheated, that who they favored won and that they are content with the result, regardless if the sport is misrepresented and degraded by these deceitful practices. Tyson Fury is a fraud, no matter what happens Saturday. Lol a clown thats never worn Reyes MX gloves. They aren't grants, they don't have massive amounts of wrist support, and they are... stuffed with horse hair... know for being... you know hair... I have no idea why this always come up with conspiracy goons. They expect horse hair to be stiff. Its not. If you ever feel a horse hair glove you will be like holy shit... this is basically bare knuckle boxing. Because yeah... boxing gear built in the same way as it was in the 1920s, doesn't offer much in the way of protection. Now if you want to debate if horse hair gloves should be allowed, thats an actual discussion, but having a complete lack of understanding about the difference between horse hair padded gloves and foam padded gloves is not an excuse to be ignorant. Horse hair gloves are much more flexible, and "floppy". Also the horse hair, tends to work its way away from your knuckles as the fight goes on.

I don't doubt any fighter would seek advantageous elements. Be it gloves, drug exemptions, location, referee, ring size, whatever. That's the sport. I also don't doubt any fighter wouldn't be willing to push the rules. A few rabbit punches, some clinching, lead with the head a few times, step on a foot etc. You do what you need to do until the referee says it's too much. But outright cheating and conspiracies in the kind of order of Wilder's claims? No chance.

No, it is complete nonsense. Even if the theories where correct? It is hardly a big cheat, really if Wilder was that much tougher and better 'He should not care'. If Fury was fighting bare knuckle, he would of potentially damaged himself. Fury can sometimes have a tendency to throw his punches like Joe Cazlaghe, and hit with the inside of the glove 'That is the only thing that I saw in the second fight'. Deontay Wilder's denial is in some ways good, because he is refusing to accept that Fury can beat him. Sometimes a fighter with that type of attitude is dangerous. Go look at the videos again. He's hitting Wilder in some of them with the knuckle portion of his fist but his knuckles aren't in the end of the glove they are down nearer to the laced portion. I have never seen gloves flex like they did in that fight. I have no dog in this fight but Fury was cheating. Wilder will always be dangerous because of his punching power and it can come at any time.

No, it is complete nonsense. Even if the theories where correct? It is hardly a big cheat, really if Wilder was that much tougher and better 'He should not care'. If Fury was fighting bare knuckle, he would of potentially damaged himself. Fury can sometimes have a tendency to throw his punches like Joe Cazlaghe, and hit with the inside of the glove 'That is the only thing that I saw in the second fight'. Deontay Wilder's denial is in some ways good, because he is refusing to accept that Fury can beat him. Sometimes a fighter with that type of attitude is dangerous.

No. This is so ridiculous. Fury is going to prove in the 3rd fight that he is the much better and smarter fighter imo. Yeah he's the better boxer and he didn't have to cheat to outbox Wilder. He may well KO Wilder in the rematch but he did cheat in that fight.

How many videos, gifs etc need to be uploaded of blatant palm strikes, rabbit punches and gloves flopping do we need to see before people stop bull****ting or go get an eye-test? to put it bluntly. I'm not even a Wilder fan literally can't stand him and I like Fury but will I **** sit here and turn a blind eye to it or try and have someone believe his glove flopping around like a slinky is natural. It's not natural for sure. He cheated plain and simple.

No. This is so ridiculous. Fury is going to prove in the 3rd fight that he is the much better and smarter fighter imo.

I think Wilder thinks Fury cheated in the 2nd fight so now Wilder will cheat in the 3rd fight as seen from his HGH gut.

Boy I tell ya! Its one of those... youre either ridiculous because ____ Or because____ depending. I voted not sure cause I ain't... Does that leave me less a fool for both camps? :lol1:

yes I have many times so don’t try use that bull**** on me....whoever you are i had boxing gloves before you were sucking on your mother’s titty. As for AJ what the **** does rabbit punching backhanding and lacing your gloves in someone’s face have to do with him. You put thread out there asking if fury cheated and when it’s answer you don’t like you try and say it didn’t ..accept people’s opinion gumbo. fury did use illegal tactics in that fight and should have been warned and dealt with by the ref it’s that’s simple So you're an AJ fan and you've never laced up gloves, got it

In that slowed down clip, you can't even make a claim that there is really anything illegal. You must be an AJ fan or something? Have you ever laced up gloves and fought someone? yes I have many times so don’t try use that bullshit on me....whoever you are i had boxing gloves before you were sucking on your mother’s titty. As for AJ what the fuck does rabbit punching backhanding and lacing your gloves in someone’s face have to do with him. You put thread out there asking if fury cheated and when it’s answer you don’t like you try and say it didn’t ..accept people’s opinion gumbo. fury did use illegal tactics in that fight and should have been warned and dealt with by the ref it’s that’s simple

If it is 100% proven that wilder was lying, then so be it, but there is no definitive proof of that either. That's the problem with an accusation after the fact. There is no way to prove 100% that it's a false accusation. People cleverly accuse others all the time (of stuff they ddn't do). Since there's no way to disprove it "100%", it stains the reputation of the accused and gets sympathy for the accuser (especially in this case where people are so tied up in their fighter that they just need the smallest excuse to refuse the loss). All you can do is review the tapes and use sound judgement. Then say he's a liar if nothing turns up, especially if nothing turns up to support like 5 different excuses. Reason dictates it's a farce.

that’s not pawing with a jab.....it’s literally rubbing the inside of your glove up his face......that’s not allowed period....pawing is sticking your jab out leaving it out there but not running it completely up someone’s face......old schoolers use to call it lacing. fury did do some illegal stuff that night and only an idiot will deny it numerous rabbit punches , punching with an open fist.....back slapping with your glove , rubbing your gloves in someone’s face. Right is right it’s that simple but it’s the referee that should stop all those rough house tactics and he didn’t and Tyson fury did exactly what he needed to do in that fight to win. if he is not allowed to do those things tomorrow then the fight becomes interesting because wilder has now bulked up 15lbs in weight to stand up to fury size. Don’t be surprised if wilder lays fury out tomorrow night because if fury is out of shape and not focused that’s exactly what might happen In that slowed down clip, you can't even make a claim that there is really anything illegal. You must be an AJ fan or something? Have you ever laced up gloves and fought someone?

If you really consider anything in that gif cheating, you are out of your mind. You're allowed to paw with the jab. If that's cheating then literally everything is cheating. that’s not pawing with a jab.....it’s literally rubbing the inside of your glove up his face......that’s not allowed period....pawing is sticking your jab out leaving it out there but not running it completely up someone’s face......old schoolers use to call it lacing. fury did do some illegal stuff that night and only an idiot will deny it numerous rabbit punches , punching with an open fist.....back slapping with your glove , rubbing your gloves in someone’s face. Right is right it’s that simple but it’s the referee that should stop all those rough house tactics and he didn’t and Tyson fury did exactly what he needed to do in that fight to win. if he is not allowed to do those things tomorrow then the fight becomes interesting because wilder has now bulked up 15lbs in weight to stand up to fury size. Don’t be surprised if wilder lays fury out tomorrow night because if fury is out of shape and not focused that’s exactly what might happen

Yes, look at denium sig. See the palm strike? Open hand jab to Wilder's face? That is illegal. Everyone who voted no is an idealist or fanboy, probably both. You should have asked do I think he cheated as per Wilder's bitching. Do I think he cheated or cheats? You got animated gifs all over this site capturing Fury's slaps and palm strikes, both of which are illegal. One in a dude's sig in this thread. I didn't even look for more instances here because once you see denium it's like game over, there is a case in point right in front of y'all dumbass faces. For a guy who acts like he knows a lot about boxing, you sure don't know much about boxing.

even in your signature pic fury is cheating....lacing and rubbing the insides of his left glove on wilders face that is illegal and should not have gone unwarned. He was dirty for sure but he knew he had to be rough on wilder plus if it’s talking about cheating then wilders camp had it on the first one when they robbed fury of a deserved win If you really consider anything in that gif cheating, you are out of your mind. You're allowed to paw with the jab. If that's cheating then literally everything is cheating.

Fury having egg-weights in his gloves isn't far-fetched? Are you crazy? even in your signature pic fury is cheating....lacing and rubbing the insides of his left glove on wilders face that is illegal and should not have gone unwarned. He was dirty for sure but he knew he had to be rough on wilder plus if it’s talking about cheating then wilders camp had it on the first one when they robbed fury of a deserved win