Why Do People In The UK Like Anthony Joshua so much more than Fury?

he won a heavyweight gold medal on british soil.

Plus at the end of the day it’s just a lot down to being a driven and determined individual. Some people are just tougher and more determined than others. I mean, take Eddie Hearn, He come from a huge house and a rich father but can you really criticise his work ethic or drive? Not at all. Had he been born into a different family and become a boxer or anything else, there’s obviously something within him that makes him so driven that would probably make him tough in whatever career he landed in. Yet there is people who were probably born in very similar circumstances to him that have no work ethic. And that’s exactly the same for people who are born all across the spectrum of wealth and geographical areas Marco Antonio Barrera come from a family with money, but he was a warrior. His parents were probably very driven people in their field of work which probably influenced his upbringing and drive. It really doesn’t matter where you come from. thats very true in theory people from poor backgrounds want to be successful more as they have experienced poverty and dont want it for them or their families so they are driven to succeed at all costs but not always, in some countries u can stay on benefits for almost life, in other countries u have to work to access any benefits and thats where u get more motivated individuals, they have no choice, sink or swim, no safety net, maybe a line for food, thats it eddie is a grafter, ill give him that, boxing is a tough sport, we only see the successful ones usually

At the end of the day fury is a brit, he was born and grew up in the uk, just like joshua, would joshua and fury like to move to their parents home countries, im not so sure about that, they are what they are, aj is clean cut and fury is mad, probably just like their families i respect all fighters even crap ones as there is bravery and their is toughness, all are brave but some are tougher than others, fury so far is just tougher than joshua and most others and thats probably a product of his upbringing and genetics, he wants it so bad in the ring, id say fury had the harder upbringing, all this council estate stuff is over rated, most are lazy nobodies and soft too, just my opinion also in society there are always people at the top and people at the bottom, from what i read gypsies or irish travellers or whatever they are, are at the bottom, the stats for living dying jobs everything are the worst, there ya go Plus at the end of the day it’s just a lot down to being a driven and determined individual. Some people are just tougher and more determined than others. I mean, take Eddie Hearn, He come from a huge house and a rich father but can you really criticise his work ethic or drive? Not at all. Had he been born into a different family and become a boxer or anything else, there’s obviously something within him that makes him so driven that would probably make him tough in whatever career he landed in. Yet there is people who were probably born in very similar circumstances to him that have no work ethic. And that’s exactly the same for people who are born all across the spectrum of wealth and geographical areas Marco Antonio Barrera come from a family with money, but he was a warrior. His parents were probably very driven people in their field of work which probably influenced his upbringing and drive. It really doesn’t matter where you come from.

Who gives a damn. Fury beats AJ every day. i don`t care what British casuals think because I am not even British.

he left school age 12 and did work with his dad. That part is definitely true. At the end of the day fury is a brit, he was born and grew up in the uk, just like joshua, would joshua and fury like to move to their parents home countries, im not so sure about that, they are what they are, aj is clean cut and fury is mad, probably just like their families i respect all fighters even crap ones as there is bravery and their is toughness, all are brave but some are tougher than others, fury so far is just tougher than joshua and most others and thats probably a product of his upbringing and genetics, he wants it so bad in the ring, id say fury had the harder upbringing, all this council estate stuff is over rated, most are lazy nobodies and soft too, just my opinion also in society there are always people at the top and people at the bottom, from what i read gypsies or irish travellers or whatever they are, are at the bottom, the stats for living dying jobs everything are the worst, there ya go

Anthony Joshua is worshipped in the south of England, and even that is on the wane. You have to remember, London is like another country. In the north, boxing fans are a lot more knowledgable, and Tyson Fury has always been lauded as the People's Champ. With Joshua losing and Fury winning recently, it feels like the scales have tipped massively in Fury's favour all over the country. A lot of fickle AJ/Matchroom fans have jumped ship recently. People are starting to mock AJ in a similar way that Audley Harrison used to get mocked.

thats great for tyson, he must be a total spoofer so as i remember him in an interview telling me he was worked very hard as a child helping his dad with cement and didnt get much schooling and it stood to him as an adult, idk maybe he is a master liar he left school age 12 and did work with his dad. That part is definitely true. Its not like he was born privileged per se, his dad was just a hard worker and provided for his family and his give them a decent home. Some people equate that to being privileged, it’s not, it should be the norm. But we live in a world where large amounts fathers run off and never provide for their kids. John Fury was just a hard grafter, it’s not like he was working in an office job 9-5 earning a big salary. Obviously his uncle Peter was in the drug game, so probably had plenty of money. see, it’s funny, people equate having a tough upbringing with things like your dad running off and leaving the kids with nothing in a crap neighbourhood. But that often results in a lot of people being lazy and expecting the government to pay for them, that can be a soft upbringing . On the flip side, you might have have a family with a dad like John Fury that worked hard to give his family some kind of comfort and instilled a work ethic into his kids, made them work and that makes them tougher. People look at it back to front

he was raised in a nice house and went to a posh school. Joshua was raised on a council https://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/tyson-fury-wladimir-klitschko-fight/index.html thats great for tyson, he must be a total spoofer so as i remember him in an interview telling me he was worked very hard as a child helping his dad with cement and didnt get much schooling and it stood to him as an adult, idk maybe he is a master liar

I've been following Fury since the first Chisora fight. He didn't exactly become "must see" until the second fight though. After Wlad he should have become an absolute superstar. But then he disappeared for 2.5 years. Fought two relative nobodies. Fought Wilder. Fought two relative nobodies. Fought Wilder again. Fought Wilder again. 7 fights in the last 6 years since the Wlad win. It seems like he has wasted his best years away. Joshua meanwhile has fought 12 times in that same span. Consistently fighting at least 2-3 times a year. He's been all over the media constantly while Fury has disappeared for long periods of time and people move on especially when they have no idea when and if he'll actually come back and fight somebody worthwhile. Maybe his Irish Gypsy identity and/or politically incorrect comments have something to do with it. I think the major issue is promotion and lack of activity though.

It has been very educational to hear some across the pond, and who understand British society wage a war of words... I enjoy everybody's perspective, not sure there is a right or wrong... I do think there are always people marginalized... I can definitely see a relationship between Fury and his supposed Travelor heritage and some of the American Indian Tribes... people don't know but some tribes are very rich because of gambling, while others are really poor. There are always those marginalized. Thats a reality. Can a Brit tell me if a "council estate" is like what we call the "projects?" here in the states?

length and girth Tyson may be taller but rumor has it that Joshua is bigger where it really counts

Its complicated. Joshua was more popular for vast chunk of their recent careers. Kinda justifiably so. He was active, competed in the olympics, didn't get banned for Nandrolone, etc. At the same time, I always feel the UK struggles to embrace more talented fighters if they're more "problematic". Lewis similarly didn't do much to ingratiate himself with the public and thus was largely treated with less affection than Bruno, his inferior rival. To most genuine fight fans, Fury has always, ALWAYS been considered the better boxer. I've not met a single guy in any gym who would have put AJ over him, even before his wins over Wilder. Then again, you also have British politics which has further complicated things. Fury wasn't really all that popular back in 2016 with his comments on gays and women. If you check out his infamous Channel 4 interviews, you can clearly a lot of the discourse being around how much of a wanker he is. Problem is, the UK has been steadily shifting increasingly to the right for the past decade. Whilst the conservative government has been in power since 2010, it was mostly governed by Teresa May/Cameron types...centre righties. That took a MAJOR shift once Brexit happened. The government started pandering to the right and, in turn, guys like Fury turned from beligerant drug cheats, to downtrodden working class "men of the people". Just read the comments about him in the Daily Mail and its kinda incredible how public opinion has turned so swiftly. You then add Joshua comments during the 2020 BLM protests and I think it was pretty much a wrap for his mainstream popularity outside of young millennial/urban boxing fans. I think Fury has captured the public imagination of the UK for the forseeable future. I suspect his next PPV will likely outsell Joshua's. Whether that becomes a permanent fixture is yet to be seen. After all, you're only one bad performance from the proverbial dustheap. One thing that is interesting though, is that I think the fairweather white racists have definitely found a new god in Fury. Whilst I often remember a lot of white viewers clinging to eastern european "great white hopes", EE's for the large part have too big a cultural gulf to be considered ideological compatriots. Fury changes this now. I legit think he will become the new McGregor in the US at least. Great post

I'm just playing :cool: Ah yes, I couldnt tell cause I thought i messed something up again cause english isnt my native tongue. I know a guy called Anthony from Philadelphia, cool guy, also boxing fan from northern philadelphia. What a coincidence it would be if you are him? God bless you bro :boxing:

does he have any endorsements like joshua does? i dont know u can tell me You cannot be serious? There is no comparison between Fury and Joshua when it comes to how marketable they are. And it has nothing to do with race. AJ is a good looking guy who won gold in the olympics, had explosive stoppage wins and doesn't ever say or do anything as outrageous as Fury. He is a marketing dream. Fury on the other hand, not so much.

He won Superheavyweight Gold at the London Olympics.

I'm in the UK, and I don't and never have. It's the casual (football fan base) that Joshua attracts (attracted) but their interest lowers with each defeat. A second Usyk loss will be the nail in the AJ coffin. Nash out.

Im from America so please help me understand it. I'm also from the US, but my guess is: Prejudice against gypsies he's a real one who speaks his kind, in today's soft PC world, that's frowned upon

Our meaning our, us, the humans. all of us. I included the guy asking ;) I'm just playing :cool:

no reason whatsoever lol, yeah ok tell that to all the gypsies, dont whine, its all in your imagination, nice one there did fury not make his money outside the uk? going to germany, going to the states etc, id say he did I am a gypsy, difference is I do not look like I fit in with the rest of society as irish travellers do. I am Romani, darker skinned than the irish travelers. Reason I bring this up is the word gypsy means different things to different people, in your case you are probably referring to the irish travelers, whereas many people in my community wouldn't even call them gypsies. I understand the word basically means someone living the traveller lifestyle, but I hope you understand my point, which two other people who I cannot remember made in these forums as well, which is how can anyone know you are a gypsy if you look exactly like everyone else? I look different than the majority of people around me, have I experienced discrimination? Yes, would I move away or constantly bring it up? No way. There is no way for me to move, Romani people are like the kurds, we have no homeland of our own.

In our world? what World do you think the guy that asked the question is from? Our meaning our, us, the humans. all of us. I included the guy asking ;)