Castillo vs Mayweather 1
James Toney vs Sam Peter 1
Casamayor vs Santa Cruz
Pacquiao vs Marquez 1 (close fight, 6 rounds each, but 3 knockdown for Pac)
Miranda vs Abraham 1
JMM would win this fight. He's almost as good as the Pacman. JAT :wave:
Marquez as good as Pacquiao? who did he clearly beat?
Barrera? no, it was close, some even say Barrera did enough to win.
Pacquiao? the first fight was not even close, Pac clearly won and the second was closer and Marquez lost.
Casamayor? I know Marquez KO him, but before, Santa Cruz beat him and Katsadis knocked him out of the ring. Marquez just finished the job.
Pacquao KO Barrera, Morales twice, De La Hoya. Marquez can only dream of what Pac has accomplished. He need Pacquiao to be somedy. What did Marquez do by himself, instead of be in Pacquiao`s back, to deserve to be compare to the #1 P4P.
Remember Marquez-Casamayor, Marquez took a lot of straight left from Casa and he didn't move out the range of him. Oscar's left will kill Marquez.
Don't forget that guys, style makes fight and the triangles rules makes me sick. Pavlik shoud have humiliated Hopkins because he host twice to Taylor whom he beat twice.
JMM is not Pacquiao. Style makes fight. Marquez doesn't move the way Pacquiao do and he is a counter-puncher. He will wait for Oscar to come and counter, but i don't think it will be effective againts a bigger guy like Oscar. When you stay in front of Oscar, it is very dangerous. Oscar will KO Marquez in 5.
The second difference between Pacquiao and Marquez. Pac can move up in weight and have still have his speed and power. His skill is improving also, he is still learning from Roach. Marquez on the other hand, is slower at lightweight than super featherweight. At his age, don't expect him to get better.
Oscar KO Marquez in 5.
In the state Oscar was in for that fight, JMM by wide decision. I don't think JMM has the power to put him away as Pacquiao did even in such sorry condition, but he would have boxed circles around him.
Marquez boxed circles around Oscar? I have never seen Marquez boxed that way. He is a counter puncher and the way he fight, he wait for his opponent come after him and counter.
Are all the people that voted for Oscar by KO blind or something? JMM beat Pac both times in my opinion, and even if you don't agree you have to agree that both fights were a round or two either way AT MOST.
Why does JMM get so much hate on here, it's ****ing bizarre.
Are you blind? the first fight, I have 6 rounds each and Pacquiao knocked him 3 times in the first round. I even gave Marquez 1 more round than HBO. 114-111 Pacquiao. There shoud never have controversy of Pacquiao victory. The second fight was closer, I won't argue with that, that's your opinion.
On 6th december, the reality, Pac KOed De La Hoya.
For Marquez, you can use verb like: should, could and would, because he can only dream what Pacquiao has accomplished, wich is mile ahead of what Marquez has accomplished. Marquez need Pac to be somebody, he can't built his name by himselt. He need Pac to KO other boxers for him.
People are giving too much credit for Marquez, because of 2 close fights (first fight was close, but not on point because of 3 knockdows) with Pac, but who is Marquez without Pacquiao?
Not at all, unlike the remartch, Pac won't struggle to make the weight. At 135, he is stronger, has the same speed and still improving. Marquez, on the other hand, is slower and not better at 135 than 130. Beating Casamayor is not impresssive as people say it is, this guy lost to a nobody like Santa Cruz and almost to a "C" fighter with punching power, Katsidis.
For the 3rd fight, Marquez won't see Pac after some rounds. His face will be cover with blood, more than the rematch.
But before a 3rd fith with Marquez, I want to see him fight other guys too.
Remember, Pac was struggling to make the weight for Barrera II and Marquez II. He feel stronger a lot more comfortable at 135. Marquez, on the other hand, is slower and got hit a lot by the left of Casa. . And the KO, well Santa Cruz and Katsidis started the job, Marquez just finished it. Don`t get me wrong, Marquez is still on of the best, but he was better at 13O.
At lightweight, Pacquiao would KO Marquez or win clearly.
I'm more impress with Pacquiao, he shut out Diaz. Pac is a better fighter a 135 than 130, he was struggling to make the weight for the fight agains Barrera II and Marquez II. Marquez is better at at 126 or 130. The fight last night was close. So Pac for me.
I agree that Casamayor is a different league than Diaz, but we are talking about a Casamayor before Santa Cruz and Katsidis.
Hopkins, not even close. He KO Trinidad and De La Hoya, and humiliated Pavlik and Tarver.
Joe, on the other hand, won again Kessler, but who did this guy beat.
Ok,where are Margarito's nuthuggers?? If a 37 years old Shane Mosley who is quite good(I respect the fighter,he was quite impressive and had a very good carreer),managed to ko'ed Margarito,how a boxer as good as Pretty Boy couldn't win against Margarito,a one way fighter who is very bad technically??Floyd would make him pay for every miss,he hits a lot faster than Mosley,he can hit as strong or maybe stronger than Mosley and well,his defensive ability makes him a potential ATG...
So tell me Margarito fans...do you really think that your boxer can beat Floyd??
I`m not a Margarito fan, but this tread is pointless. Why waste your time talking about hypothetical fight between Mayweather-Margarito.
his voice reminds me of Jimmy Durante
Me, his voice reminds me of Flavor Flave from Public Enemy.
...and I have the same score as his for the Berto-Collazo fight. I agree with him most of the time.
, Hatton sold 1.5 million PPVs in UK when he fought the Mayweather.
Hatton vs Collazo: ?
Hatton vs Urango: ?
Hatton vs Maligani sold 175k PPV in UK.
Hatton vs Mayweather sold 1.5 million PPV in UK.
Hatton vs Pacquiao, maybe 1 million PPV in UK.
Notice the big diffrence in PPV sold.
That mean Mayweather sold the PPV in UK, not Hatton. Pac will sell the PPV in UK, not Hatton.
By himself, Hatton is not a huge draw. If he fight sombebody else, he won`t even get 200k PPV.
Pac is the man right now and deserve a bigger share.
Mayweather has some unfinised business at welterweight.
Calzaghe, I want to see fight Dawson, Johnson and Kessler rematch.
Joshua Clotthey, why the most fear fighter like Williams and Margarito never mention his name? too risky and little reward.
I can understand why. His boxing skills are the best I have seen. That doesn't mean he is unbeatable, a skill pressure fighter have a chance againts him, especially at 147 pounds. Too bad, he doesn't have the guts to go with his skills.
His retirement have something to do with the fear and the risk of losing a fight with Cotto, Margarito and Williams. The pressure of boxing fans for him fighting the best at welterweight led him into retirement.
Now, you should watch the first fight. The score is not even close, I have 6 rounds each and with the 3 knock down for Pac, he well ahead on point. Unlike what Marquez said, Pac came back after the seven rounds and he won the second half of the fight. Marquez' mouth was mess at the end.
The second fight could have gone either way, but those who think Marquez won the first must be nutthugger. And Pac was robbed because of juge Burt Clements.
he said he wants to fight adamek and adamek aint even a big name, dawson whooped his ass . Hopkins should fight 3 ppl, 1 of the three before retirement, james toney, chad dawson, nikoly valuev. or obviously avenge calzaghe if calzaghe somehow comes back
Why should he? Hopkins got nothing to prove. If he want a belt from the cruiserweight division, that's fine with me.
Pac by KO, without getting hit as much as Marquez. Pac would not stand in front of Diaz or near the ropes. He would get in and out all night and then KO Diaz. Unlike Marquez, he would leave the fight without little damage on his face. Since becoming a more complete fighter, Pac doesn't trade punchs.
How can Marquez be the #1 P4P when he lose twice to Pac and have been knock down 4 times.
If Marquez want to be #1, he have to beat Pac. At 140, it will be a harder for him fighting Pac than at 130.
This article is great for Pac.
`` my opinion, blood testing for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is more important for detecting possible blood doping or use of EPO than it is for human growth hormone``
Team Mayweahter tough that blood testing is for HGH. That mean they know nothing about drug testing. Pac is right by not accepting Mayweather`s demand.
`` This would benefit a fighter in training and especially during the later rounds of a fight``
Pacman doesn`t need the later rounds.
Pac doesn't a problem with ''big and strong fighter'', these guy are too slow for him. If pac was in Mayweather's shoes, he would have KO grandpa Mosley.
Just going by appearance, Amir Khan did not look or fight like he was on roids, he looks like a natural athlete to me, Pac on the other hand does look and fight like he's on something...just saying...
That`s what hurt this sport. Boxing fan bitching one of his 2 best fighter. Pac has done a lot for boxing and deserve a least some respect. He has been test before and always come negatif.