Just going by appearance, Amir Khan did not look or fight like he was on roids, he looks like a natural athlete to me, Pac on the other hand does look and fight like he's on something...just saying...
look at the size of his head! lol!
exactly. Looking at Bobby lets me know its just genetics. One poster tried to claim that Bobby has been using as well, but that comical for obvious reasons. Not only that but even though Bobby has basically retired and hasn't fought in a long time, he still looks like he did during his figthing days (build wise) and is the same size as Manny is right now. I know this because I have recently seen both training side by side. I think Bobby does so to stay in shape FWIW...by why would he still be using (He is the same size...unlike 100% of people who get off of Roids/Peds) if he isn't fighting? Would there even be a need, yet he still has the same physical build.
Just going by appearance, Amir Khan did not look or fight like he was on roids, he looks like a natural athlete to me, Pac on the other hand does look and fight like he's on something...just saying...
That`s what hurt this sport. Boxing fan bitching one of his 2 best fighter. Pac has done a lot for boxing and deserve a least some respect. He has been test before and always come negatif.
Jros,
We don't know this. This isn't guaranteed.
WTF you talking about so Buboy is probably injecting pac's ass with designer drugs behind ariza and roach??
I don't think the facts speak very well for you either.
For starters, Freddie Roach has admitted that he knew Justin Fortune abused PEDs. Yet, he hired Fortune to be a strength and conditioning coach and only got rid of him over money. So what does that tell you? When a trainer hires a guy he knows is an advocate of roids and continues using him even as he is providing god-knows-what to his fighters?
Alex Ariza was hired to work with...Bobby Pacquiao. That was his first assignment. Now, even with Toney being busted twice, rumors of Wildcard being a PED haven and Justin Fortune being, well, Justin Fortune...people still gave Roach the benefit of the doubt. The whispers began because Bobby - who has always been lean and muscular - transformed overnight. His metamorphis is what led people to begin whispering about what they had only silently acknowledged before.
Roach felt Ariza did such a good job with Bobby that he began using him for Manny. Ariza was the driving force behind Manny's ability to move to 147 for the Oscar bout. The rest is history. Now run along and tell everyone more stories about what gays do in the Phillipines since you seem to have the inside track on that.
u are a complete joke. u say anything to back up ur biased views. find another sport if u cant admire a great.
If Floyd and his team would have thrown the same lies/ contradictions that Pacquiao's team threw, I would have already pointed the finger. Honestly, I would have gotten fucked up; really fucked up...and then gotten off the bandwagon. I don't support cheaters, PERIOD.
team mayweather have no contradictions at all. u basically believe what u want to believe.u a hater.
I am certain Khan is clean . I can't say the same for Manny. If Manny is on anything it is not roids but HGH.
how does this make sense they share the same team. oh it must be buboy giving him the designer drugs!.
lol at some posters pointing out some rumors about bobby pac alleged peds use by way of wild card blah blah blah. that's kinda strange for people who are convinced that manny pac is on peds to use that rumor. we all know bobby pac is a bum and until his last fight is still a bum. if that rumor was true then that means peds has no effect on bob pac...now these same same rumor mongers are trying to emphasize that peds worked wonders for pac. again this is stupid and oxymoronic.
Just going by appearance, Amir Khan did not look or fight like he was on roids, he looks like a natural athlete to me, Pac on the other hand does look and fight like he's on something...just saying...
Uh oh, here we go again. The only reason why this Flomo is saying this about Khan is because Amir is still not a threat to their idol's 0. If Khan mentioned Mayweather's name in last night's fight, these Flomos would be all over him. These clowns are too predictable. I could see right through their pea brains.
Wait till Khan demolishes three more opponents in a row and these Flomos would start their dirty campaign accusing Khan of using roids.
Why haven't they gained that type of trust while James Toney, Lucia Rijker, Ortiz, Liddell. and all the other guys that you guys like to mention did gained it so quickly?
We wouldn't know that Jros. Hence, Vanes and Khan being on the same stuff Pacquiao is....isn't guaranteed. All I'm saying is thats not a sure fact.
Floyd is probably on some untraceable PEDS.
He probably is.
Who is to say Khan and Vanes have gained the kind of trust Pacquiao has? Be real now Jros.
Why haven't they gained that type of trust while James Toney, Lucia Rijker, Ortiz, Liddell. and all the other guys that you guys like to mention did gained it so quickly?
Do you think Floyd is on that PEDS too? Why or why not?
If Floyd and his team would have thrown the same lies/ contradictions that Pacquiao's team threw, I would have already pointed the finger. Honestly, I would have gotten fucked up; really fucked up...and then gotten off the bandwagon. I don't support cheaters, PERIOD.
It is an agenda cuz you questioning Roach, Ariza word for it. Which ok I get it but also questioning Vanes word. But, you questioning cuz it is something positive for Pac.
Lets be real if they said something that was perceived as negative. You wouldn't be in here saying that isn't a guarantee. But, since is positive we going with well that isn't guaranteed.
That is an agenda bro.
Who is to say Khan and Vanes have gained the kind of trust Pacquiao has? Be real now Jros.
There's nothing that could convince you that Pac is clean. OST or not. You'll say he cleansed himself before OST found could anything.
If Pac takes the OST and beats Floyd and especially KO's him. Some people on here are going to say he is on some untraceable stuff. That the cheaters are ahead of the testers.
There's nothing that could convince you that Pac is clean. OST or not. You'll say he cleansed himself before OST found could anything.
Seriously?
You're probably right about that.
Doesn't mean anything, there doesn't have to be an agenda behind this. It's a fact, that isn't guaranteed.
It is an agenda cuz you questioning Roach, Ariza word for it. Which ok I get it but also questioning Vanes word. But, you questioning cuz it is something positive for Pac.
Lets be real if they said something that was perceived as negative. You wouldn't be in here saying that isn't a guarantee. But, since is positive we going with well that isn't guaranteed.
That is an agenda bro.
Hell no! is the answer to that question. Pac should take everything being thrown at him as a compliment. He's so good, people think he's unnatural.
That is the way I see it a compliment. If Floyd really really felt Pac was easy work, easy money he would have fought Pac with or without blood testing. But, is obvious he is worried, he does think Pac is too good.
Now saying all that. Don't nobody get it twisted. I do want better testing period. I am all for it. I would love for Pac to accept their demand so everybody could just STFU about it. I understand if he doesn't. But, personally I want him to do it.
But, lets not get it confused on why it was asked.
So we just going to pick and chose on what Ariza and Roach says as gospel. So we just going to say Roach and Ariza are saying the truth here cuz it fits our agenda but they're lying here cuz it fits our agenda.
And, Vanes also has come out and said he takes the same stuff.
Doesn't mean anything, there doesn't have to be an agenda behind this. It's a fact, that isn't guaranteed.
Jros,
We don't know this. This isn't guaranteed.
So we just going to pick and chose on what Ariza and Roach says as gospel. So we just going to say Roach and Ariza are saying the truth here cuz it fits our agenda but they're lying here cuz it fits our agenda.
And, Vanes also has come out and said he takes the same stuff.
Vanes Martisayen(spelling?) also takes what Khan and Pac take.
But, apparently it doesn't help him as much.
And, does anybody honestly think that if Floyd was fighting Vanes he would be so adamant on this PED issue?
Jros,
We don't know this. This isn't guaranteed.