Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez Is P4P The Best Fighter Right Now

LOL @ Manny's comfortable weight. Manny was comfortable giving up 17lbs unless it's a guy like Martinez. Then that person becomes "too big." More like, "too good." Which he is. This is a very accurate assessment. Mosley was too big but Margarito was not. Delahoya could weigh 147 but Mosley could not. The games only work on those who refuse to see the light.

Pound for Pound is a title made up to consider the domination of a fighter no matter what weight he is. Sergio is very good, and should be considered in the top 5, but not no. 1. I think he only fought at 3 weight divisions and won the light middle weight belt in 2008 and the middle weight belt in 2010. Manny fought Marquez at 130 in March 2008, Diaz at 135 in June 2008, De la Hoya at 147 in December 2008, Hatton at 140 in May 2009, Cotto at 145 in November 2009, Clottey at 147 in March 2010, and Margarito at 150 in November 2010. In 2 and a half year span, Manny fough at Super Featherweight, Light Weight, Junior Welterweight, Welterweight (3 times), and Light Middleweight. What Manny accomplished is a better definition of pound for pound, not taking anything away from Martinez. Knocking out Williams who was ranked #3 pound for pound does not automatically make you number 1. manny made a bid for jr middle weight dominance right. so fight fair against maravilla. lets see how pac does against a guy that fights for real.

For real. Knock Pacquiao down to #2 and Mayweather down to #3. It will end their whole pissing match and force them to fight or shut up. Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez Pound 4 Pound the greatest fighter in the world. Pound for Pound is a title made up to consider the domination of a fighter no matter what weight he is. Sergio is very good, and should be considered in the top 5, but not no. 1. I think he only fought at 3 weight divisions and won the light middle weight belt in 2008 and the middle weight belt in 2010. Manny fought Marquez at 130 in March 2008, Diaz at 135 in June 2008, De la Hoya at 147 in December 2008, Hatton at 140 in May 2009, Cotto at 145 in November 2009, Clottey at 147 in March 2010, and Margarito at 150 in November 2010. In 2 and a half year span, Manny fough at Super Featherweight, Light Weight, Junior Welterweight, Welterweight (3 times), and Light Middleweight. What Manny accomplished is a better definition of pound for pound, not taking anything away from Martinez. Knocking out Williams who was ranked #3 pound for pound does not automatically make you number 1.

Why don't you answer the question and post who was considered better at those class during that time. You say Manny has fought bums...well prove it. Also dude beat the #1 guy at JWW....and then beat two top WW in Cotto and Clottey. Who else outside of Floyd was better than those guys? Dude tried to face Floyd. How can you say he hasn't fought anyone when you know damn well you would struggle to post fighters better than the guys he just faced? What I said was Martinez last two opponents were better than Pacquiao's last two. I never called any fighter a "bum". Find where I said that? Try to stay on topic and there's no need to lie.

Get some boxing knowledge and then talk to me.... Yeah yeah. You called me out and now i will be on your case and single you out for attention.

You wont argue if people have Sergio no1 above pac? If you disagree with it why not argue it? Did Pac do something to upset you? Use your so called 20,000 posts knowledge to make a case for Pac being better then Sergio. Its not hard. Easiest gig in the world. Get some boxing knowledge and then talk to me....

you get some boxing knowledge, then come talk to me. You wont argue if people have Sergio no1 above pac? If you disagree with it why not argue it? Did Pac do something to upset you? Use your so called 20,000 posts knowledge to make a case for Pac being better then Sergio. Its not hard. Easiest gig in the world.

He should be in number 2 at least..

it depends, if JMM knocks the fack out Kats, I say JMM is # 3, but right now "Sexy" Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez is p4p #3. why? Katsidis sucks. Casamayor knocked him out. Did you make Casamayor #3 when he KO'd Katsidis?

Martinez lose some rounds to Pavlik of Cintron. These fighters have a style that Manny would win every rounds. Pac #1 Martinez #2 Mayweather #3

Cotto was not lineal champ at WW :lol1: There wasn't a lineal champ at that time. I just added his name to the list because you stated he has faced nothing but bums. If so please list who were better than those guys at those classes.

With your logic we should rate Mayweather based on his fights with Castillo and Corrales. And Margarito beat Cotto. Does that mean Margarito should have still been rated number one? Since Cotto beat Mosley?Yeah your logic is stupid at best. Why don't you answer the question and post who was considered better at those class during that time. You say Manny has fought bums...well prove it. Also dude beat the #1 guy at JWW....and then beat two top WW in Cotto and Clottey. Who else outside of Floyd was better than those guys? Dude tried to face Floyd. How can you say he hasn't fought anyone when you know damn well you would struggle to post fighters better than the guys he just faced?

Hopkins, Mayweather, Froch, Mosley are pretty close Pacs resume after Marquez is pretty garbage aside from Cotto who was hardly coming of a great win.. Why you mentioning lineal champs though? Pac certainly hasn't fought many recently.. for the simply fact that you tried to claim Manny has been fighting bums. If so then the list of guys with more impressive resumes would be longer, which even at that you seem to lack confidence as you said they are pretty close (vs Better) than Manny Pacquiao. FWIW I will admit Froch's resume is actually more impressive IMO. Not Mosley and Hopkins because Mosley got beat by Cotto, dominated by Floyd and lost to Mora. With Hopkins, dude lost to both Calzaghe and Taylor, beat a bum in ornalas and a washed up Roy Jones. Props to the Pavlik and Tarver when but again not better than Manny.

Com'on after ko ing a whelterweight

Ignorate is claiming a guy doesn't fight the best win they have won 4 lineals. Let's say your right and lineal don't mean a thing Who was better than Sasakul aat Flyweight Lebwabwa at BW Barrera at FW Marquez & Morales at SFW Hatton at JWW Cotto at WW (I can see an argument for Mosley but Cotto beat him) So it's ironic that you claim what I post is childish...when you post the bullsh1t you just posted. With your logic we should rate Mayweather based on his fights with Castillo and Corrales. And Margarito beat Cotto. Does that mean Margarito should have still been rated number one? Since Cotto beat Mosley?Yeah your logic is stupid at best.

First of all, what does Mayweather have to do with the question? And I rarely post on NSB mainly because of people like you that post like their 13 years old. I rate Martinez over Mayweather as well if that makes you any happier. And what you just said in no way changes your ignorant comments about the lineal championship. Why don't you come up with an answer for that other than this dumb and irrelevant response you came up with. Ignorant is claiming a guy doesn't fight the best win they have won 4 lineals. Let's say your right and lineal don't mean a thing Who was better than Sasakul aat Flyweight Lebwabwa at BW Barrera at FW Marquez & Morales at SFW Hatton at JWW Cotto at WW (I can see an argument for Mosley but Cotto beat him) So it's ironic that you claim what I post is childish...when you post the bullsh1t you just posted.

Looking @ these posts the consensus is Martinez #2. Somebody taking floyd's spot again. Floyd is slippin.

Ohh I get it as soon as Manny wins something the history and prestige of that award goes completely out the window. Gotta love NSB...........:fing02:First it's titles don't mean a thing because Manny has a ton of those Then it's FOTD doesn't mean a thing once Pacquiao walks away with the award And finally it's Lineals are garbage. But ohh that d@mn WBC belt is the greatest because Floyd says so. You guys are so d@mn pathetic it's not even funny. First of all, what does Mayweather have to do with the question? And I rarely post on NSB mainly because of people like you that post like they're 13 years old. So don't tell me anything about NSB. I rate Martinez over Mayweather as well if that makes you any happier. And what you just said in no way changes your ignorant comments about the lineal championship. Why don't you come up with an answer for that other than this dumb and irrelevant response you came up with.

Pac hasn't faced many lineal champs lately.. Again please post someone who has a better last 7 fights than Manny? I will be waiting...................... BTW while your at it....please break down Martinez resume prior to Cintron which was 3-4 fights ago.

Pacquiao has been picking on slow ass bigger guys who have zero handspeed.. if he fought a bigger guy like Martinez/Floyd/Mosley he would be crushed because they actually have good speed. I watched Morales 1 and Marquez fights the other day.. i didn't even notice much of a difference in speed Pavlik scored a flash flukey KD whcih martinez is open to given his odd style, after a little rest midway through Martinez clowned his ass, cheering to the crowd. Please explain Martinez resume prior to Cintron? BTW no one in boxing has a past 7 fight resume as good as Manny's....yet he is cherry picking/fighting washed up fighters?