I have to say I was shocked that the ref let this go on. I mean, it's easy to say when you aren't there but wow, this could have ended badly. (And still could, as the real damage could show up later.)
In a word, no. I do wish they would be more open to up and coming fighters *, but they have done a lot for promoting the sport.
* I’ll even give them a pass on that because obviously those fights aren’t making money for the company, and I can’t fault them for wanting to make a profit.
People knock on Arreola all the time for his weight but... It doesnt really make a difference.
I mean he is very relaxed in the ring and has great confidence in his chin, so he has pretty good stamina
If anything the weight lets him absorb blows from MUCH MUCH bigger men, and probably attributes to his power.
I mean, I just can't see him taking 12 rounds worth of HARD shots for Adamek had he been 50 pounds lighter, u kno?
And either way, He isn't beating a Klitschko or a Haye
Interesting theory, and although I disagree with it I like it when people take chances with their posts as it usually leads to interesting discussions.
I do agree with you that training hard will not automatically result in becoming a superstar. But it does help with performance and stamina, both being important attributes for successful boxers.
Also, weight does not give someone power. Power comes from technique, balance, momentum and strength, and having an excessive amount of body fat does not positively contribute to any of these factors.
To me, things like "effective aggression" and "ring generalship" are excuses to score a round to a guy that didn't win it.
Clean, effective punches and punch volume are all that really matter to me when i'm scoring. I don't care if a guys pressing the action the whole time if he's getting tagged with good shots while doing it.
I agree. I guess the only real advantage to having these scoring criteria would be if you felt the round was a dead heat and you could then give the round for the boxer who pressed the action.
I say why not? Both fighters are riding high a wave of popularity, are undefeated and have titles and this fight would be huge in Mexico. If the fighters, promoters, tv execs, etc. wait too long, one or both of these guys might lose a fight or two and then this proposed fight isn't as big...
I agree with this. I would definitely be interested in this fight.
I definitely think Vitali should. Wlad still has a few years left but I think Vtiali is starting to become a little more stiff as he has gotten older. There isn’t any shame in that as we all start to slow down eventually. I just hate to see a boxer fight long past his prime.
Heavyweight - Wladimir Klitschko/Samuel Peter
Crusierweight – Antonio Tarver
Light Heavyweight – N/A
Super Middleweight- Kelly Pavlik/Peter Qullin/Carl Froch
Middleweight - David Lemieux
Jr. Middleweight –Saul Alvarez
Welterweight-N/A
Jr. Welterweight - Ruslan Provodnikov
Lightweight – Michael Katsidis
Jr. Lightweight-N/A
Featherweight- Yuriorkis Gamboa/ Juan Manuel Lopez
Jr. Featherweight- Jorge Arce
Bantamweight - Nonito Donaire
Jr. Bantamweight- N/A
Flyweight-N/A
Jr. Flyweight-N/A
Strawweight- N/A
Even if I didn’t list a name within it, I respect a lot of fighters in the other weight classes. I just don’t have a favorite in all of them.
It depends. Anything below the waist (like an artificial foot or leg) is okay, but any modification to the hands or arms, or taking any artificial stimulant to help a lack of stamina is not. Just my opinion.
Definitely Jones…
It happens to all of us eventually. You get old and your skills deteriorate. It’s just part of being human and there isn’t any shame in it. It’s just too bad sometimes it’s the athletes themselves that are last ones to acknowledge it.
I have a different take on this in that I feel a lot of it was played up for the benefit of the cameras. Obviously there is a lot of legitimate hostility within their family and especially the bad blood between him and his father has been well documented, but I highly doubt that argument would have been nearly as animated or intense if there weren’t any cameras around. Say what you will about Mayweather, but he is a master entertainer an no fool when it comes to self-promotion.
As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity, and Mayweather knows that.
When and where did he say/write this statement? I ask because I’m shocked Bert Sugar would make such a claim. I understand that sometimes context can be misconstrued, but by comparing Canera (who was mostly a product of mobsters fixing his fights) to the Klitschkos is fairly insulting. I hope he was just trying to make a joke regarding how much he hates their fighting style.
I see what he is saying and mostly agree with it. I don’t believe to be great you absolutely have to jump up (or down, for that matter) in weight classes and collect belts. You can be equally great just dominating your own division and taking on top contenders. As well, there has been a lot of medical evidence to suggest that jumping up and down in weight (as a lot of boxers do) is bad for both your short and long term health and actually could make you even more susceptible to brain injury. Thus, if Martinez feels comfortable at his walking around weight in the ring, he should stay there and good for him.
However, with all of that said, I think the shot against Pac was inappropriate and only weakens what I believe was originally a good point.
1. Ward vs Froch. Two of the best fighters in the division with contrasting styles. I’m very excited for this one.
2. Floyd vs Ortiz. Former pound-for-pound champ going against a hungry, action fighter. Should be a good one.
3. Cotto vs Margarito. Revenge fight that should end all the controversy of the first one.
4. Klitschko vs Adamek. I think Adamek has a chance here.
5. Manny vs JMM. A few years too late.
6. Maidana vs Guerrero. Good fighters, but I just don’t have much interest in the fight for some reason.
7. Hopkins vs Dawson. Neither has looked good in my opinion. Probably won’t even watch this one.
Current
1. Oscar De La Hoya
2. Bob Arum
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Floyd Mayweather
5. Dan Rafael
All-time
1. Don King
2. Muhammed Ali
3. Oscar De La Hoya
4. Bob Arum
5. Bert Sugar
With special consideration going to:
“Sugar” Ray Leonard
I didn’t really find it too funny, but this is absolutely great for the sport. It means that the general media believes that some of the stars are big enough for the general public to recognize them when mocked. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
I definitely think he can still be a star in this sport. He has an amazing skill set and a great personality. However, instead of providing excuses he should take responsibility for his defeat and work to improve on areas of deficiency.
I agree that when it is all said and done the difference between what Ortiz will make compared to Mayweather will be vast. But there are a couple of things to keep in mind: First, Mayweather is the draw by far in this fight. All of my friends who are non-boxing fans know who Mayweather is. On the other hand you have to be a pretty serious fan to know Ortiz. The second thing to keep in mind is that no one is making him fight Mayweather. If he thought the money was unfair then he could have fought someone else. But he obviously liked the terms enough to sign the contract, so who are we to say that he is getting screwed? If he is happy, so be it.
It is going to be up to boxing commissions and medical boards to stop him from doing irreparable harm not only to himself but also to the sport of boxing.