Yep, Frank we should knight Eddie Hearn.
That one might kill Frank. Imagine any future negotiations .. that's Sir Eddie to you.
or ... Tyson or Chris Eubank they would really milk it, worth the comedy value alone.
Cunningham may have the Wilder result right but I watched the Cunningham fight and fury clowned and showboated in that fight till he got clocked. he didn't take Cunningham seriously at all but that was a lot better Fury looking at the Pianeta fight Fury looks well off form.
Wilder is at best no2 in the world but maybe just top 5 his boxrec is junk and its just people giving him the benefit of the doubt with eye test.
He's ducked anyone we could measure him against and when asked why he did this he said you only want me to fight them so you can compare me with Joshua .... well d'oh .. yes.
Joshua on the other hand hasn't shirked that comparison.
If ex coke head Fury coming off two poor performances schools him its going to be tough to argue Wilder is top 5.
Wilder is no1 or 2 in the world. It would be a great win for fury. It would be a great win for josh. It would be greater for fury.
Weird Fury is nice with AJ ...
Weird Hearn says Wild cards at play for April 13 ...
Weird ...
This is the first time I've heard Fury say anything good about Joshua since he was on the Radio (I think) saying that he'd sparred with Joshua and he was 'someone to watch out for in the future'.
I agree with Fury's comments, if he manages (somehow) to beat Wilder, I would have Fury a heavy favourite to beat Joshua on points and it would take a heavy blow to win it for AJ, although he has that power and some good boxing ability, Fury IS the slickest Heavyweight and I think that we will all see glimpses of it on 1st December.
As an AJ fan, I am coming round the possibility that defeat to Fury or Wilder will not be all bad, he has the ability to comeback and challenge again. Lets just hope that we get this triangle of fights.
Fury lost the linneal title when he retired same way Lennox did.
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No hate .. just stating a fact .. I looked at four main ranking websites and all had him NOT listed as lineal. Google it , most of them have him as a previous lineal who retired like Lennox Lewis who also retired. The 2.5 years stripped him of the ring title automatically and announcing his retirement took him off the list for Transglobal boxing rankings etc. Those two are generally considered the ones for the lineal I literally didn't find an organisation that did recognize him as the current lineal, I guess their must be one ??
Fury is the man who beat the man and hasn't lost in the ring. Why so much hate? His 2.5 years without defending his title isn't even the longest period of inactivity a Lineal HW champion has every had so if others can take a sabbatical then why not Fury? Especially considering he was in a pretty dark place.
Not like #1 and #2 in the division fought each other in his absence to create a new lineage.
No doubt the linneal champ .... lol.
Vlad was "given it" because Lennox retired breaking the line.
Fury won it, ran off with it defending against no one and then retired half way through his ban breaking the new one person line.
Furys claiming he was some how given it back for beating Seferi.
The whole thing is a bad joke, you might as well award it to yourself the IBO is more prestigious at this point at least it bases its rankings of boxrec.
I believe Deontay thinks hes facing the best, no doubt Wilder is facing the lineal champion. Lets face it, Anthony Joshua holds Fury's titles, this is irrefutable. Any man that thinks that a Olympic-medalist, who outboxed the #2. HW in the world when capturing the WBC is not skilled, is not being honest.
Dont be surprised if you see Bomb-Squad makes Fury look like a amateur a BUM, don't blame it on Tyson's layoff, Wilder is that good.
Lmao! Aj sells nowhere NEAR 1 mil ppv,not to mention the uk ppv are like 10-20$.
LMAO !!!!
AJ hasn't done less than a million UK ppvs in ages, Parker was about 1.3 in the UK. What the world wise ppvs were I'm not sure? I know the New Zealand the ppvs were more for instance and I don't know the numbers other territories not sure ? In the rest of the world they also do cable / free to air deals which bring in more revenue (some of the TV ratings from those territories are amazing).
The guy is a money making machine.
UK ppvs for Joshua are about 27$ (varies with exchange rate and HD). which looks really high now teh US has DAZN.
Even if he beat him .. no but got to admire his spirit fair play to him.
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He's #2 in boxrec. That wouldn't be possible if 95% of his opponents were bums. He has twice as many points as everyone else except AJ. Where are your posts trashing the thousands of heavyweights who haven't proven themselves as much as Wilder has? AJ is the #1 heavyweight in the world. Congrats. But why are you trashing #2 instead of everyone below him? Doesn't make sense.
That's what happens when the guy with the other belts refuses to fight you.
That's a lie. He's fighting three former champions in a row.
He's #2 in the world. Why aren't you criticizing #3 or #300 or #3,000? Why the obsession with pretending #2 isn't impressive?
He's number #2 after 40 fights AJ has nearly double the number of points over him in half the fights .. that ain't great. The gap between #3 and #2 is much smaller than #1 and #2.
The nicest thing you can say about Wilders record is its terrible most of his opponents are well beaten before they getin the ring coming off strings of losses.
Furys record isn't that brilliant he does have that amazing victory over Klitschko , then what a prime Chisora (good).
How can Wilder fight for lineage no one beat Lennox for it ?
If your going to argue Lennox retired and some how awared it to Klitschko then you have to accept Fury announced his retirement too in his lay off so even if he had it, he conceded it.
You can't unretire and get your titles back.
A boxer can only win the lineal championship by defeating the previous lineal champion in the ring.
Anthony Joshua would not be champion if it wasnt for the man that Deontay is about to destroy for the lineage, how does that feel?
I understand Tyson is being a douche but, Ross Purity has a better win than Deontay Wilder, so what?
You realise Joshua is fit and healthy, Fury was coming of a drugs bender and Ortiz was popping blood pressure magazine like candy.
Joshua will kill him but then so would Fury next time.
Wilder will fight and beat AJ next. Shame for Fury, but would like to see Fury fight the best of the rest, so either Ortiz or Miller. Sorry AJ fans, Dillian is not the 2nd best Heavyweight in the world as Sky/British media will have you brainwashed to believing.
Martin, Klitschko and Parker (ring #3 at the time).
Martin was undefeated but American so tuned out to be overrated.
Fury bet his own cash on all three beating AJ, thats pretty good when compared to a paper champ like Wilder.
.. but I really do want to see AJ vs Fury., we need that one for #1.
And you have to ask yourself did Joshua earn those belts no and who did Joshua beat to gain those belts no one did he face Fury to retain the belts he fraudulently won it's cool that he's making money but would he making that type of money fighting in America no he wouldn't see 2 million a fight facts Vegas is the boxing capital no the U.K.
Woww look up this guy Deontay Wilder you may not have heard of him , for thirty fights odd he would only fight guys who lost most of their fights and then when Klitschko dump his belt he ran out of hiding to grab one. Then he got his manager to tell the world he was a baby heavyweight with no balls to fight anyone when threatened by Klitschko s brother.
Then he ran from his mandatorys for another 10 fights beating up women and threatening families for kicks.
Now that's a ***** .. right.
I believe.
Joshua is the first 230 lbs Pussie I’ve ever seen
Chance of a great fight is near zero, the styles and past records say. I suspect fury has some form of rematch clause on a loss it maybe if it goes to points.
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Probably more people using the staples center site to track the lack of sales than buy anything.
Still nice to see the fans destroy Wilder at the weigh in , Showtime had to mute the crowd sound but the other channels got it.
Wilder and Gypsy Clown are both just a miserable lunatics. Damn, they can't even sell 20.000 seat arena - at least half of it still unsold. And PPV sales will also tank. Such a misery.:rofl:
Wilder ran from the Klitchskos , no way he gets in the ring with them ever.
.. both would beat him easily.
Who would win this great matchup? No Wladimir who we all know wilder would easily KO, but Vitaly, who has a granite chin and good skill.
1) Wilder doesn't have to take the fight to get AJ.
2) He's going to fight someone why not Whyte ? Hearn has also offered him Chisora or to buy a Brezeale fight.
3) He previously said he'd take 7 million to fight Whyte in the UK.
Wilder will earn 2 million ? otherwise ??
It was confirmed Wilder was not under contract to Showtime and could fight on Dazn.
Wilder should be delighted with this offer if nothing else he could go back to Showtime and get more money.
Bellew confronted Wilder previously Wilder just went pretty quiet.
Brezeale confronted Wilders brother, Wilder waited till he was a lone with his family and then gathered a gang together (Brezeales wife is a bit useful in a fight apparently) and went after them.
All this pales into insignificance when compared at his attempt
to defend his title against Andrzej Wawrzyk that was real cowardice.
Shelley Finkel calls him his baby heavyweight he needs to protect for a reason.
Seriously Bellew is a blown up cruiserweight who got in a ring with David Haye when every one said he'd leave in an ambulance , no one is questioning his bravery Wilder throttles women in hotel rooms (google it). Wilder is brave on youtube thats it.
I would think its a good bet that he would
but knowing how eddie hearn rolls he will probably call Sylvester stallone and offer him some of AJs juice in order to ban wilder from the premiere
The two fights you list are both with top five heavyweighrts and they're nonsense ... congratulations you're now a Wilder fan .. no nonsense fights for you.
Seriously I wish every champion in every division would just take top five fighters and mandatory s nothing else boxing would be a much better space.
The fans will look at the Ring Magazine, box rec (have you seen how many points he's ahead of roid rage Wilder !!) , ESPN etc and see AJ on top .. that's just a fact deal with it.
The Hearns should get on board because what they are saying is they don't want to risk Joshua with Wilder for two years.So he'll fight Whyte again assuming he gets past old man P. and wont be in the fans reckoning as the best.Good luck A.J. I won't be buying tickets for that nonsense, been there done that!
he is top 10 just on those facts however his rise up the rankings is well dubious ...
He went Ring #10 to #7 for beating (badly) Pianeta a heavyweight with a very poor record how does that work ? Its a bit harsh on the heavyweights actually fighting good opponents.
Anyway the rankings are what they are even if there seems to be some rigging going on.
I agree with that statement.
And regardless of if people want to admit it or not, Fury is a top 10 HW. (#7 Ring, #8 TBRB)