Comments Thread For: Fury on Joshua: They Are Just Borrowed Belts, They Are Still Mine

Quote: Originally Posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER But didn’t he lose the belts for his PED use? I’ve never seen a fighter come off a two year suspension for PEDs and get praised like Fury did lol. Now all the media saying he was out 2yrs due to mental health smh. That seems like the excuse for a lot of things now a days, when actually he was out 2 years because he was a cheater. Even tried to cheat the testing in this Wilder fight Quote: Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff You Wilder guyz never cease to amaze me. Just cannot for the life of you admit Fury was the better man vs Wilder. Embarrassed him for the vast majority of the fight. Now you won't even acknowledge he's had mental health issues. Wow... talk about a cultist... you're definitely that all over. The fight was a draw lol I really don’t give a dàmn who won the fight. This has nothing to do with Wilder this is a thread about Joshua belts. Pay attention. Funny you didn’t touch on the cheating part. By extension it's about Wilder, Fury, and Joshua. As for cheating, since you won't acknowledge mental illness, your argument is a huge zero. And now you try to say you don't care how the fight went. So why are you even commenting? Won't acknowledge Fury's excellent performance, won't acknowledge his mental illness problems, trying to float the b.s. claim it was PEDs only, no mental illness. What is wrong with you anyway? Get new parts for your head, dolt.

Fury is the king. Josh should accept that. Fury did to wilder what Josh also hopes he'll be able to do. Fury actually did it. So Josh being the gentleman i know he is, will have no problem publicly accepting Fury is the champ. Josh shouldnt want to be a champ on no tecnicality. He should want to beat Fury for it.

Thats how a kd rd is scored 90% of the time as it was in this fight. Right; however, that is not consistent with 10-point must system scoring rules.

You Wilder guyz never cease to amaze me. Just cannot for the life of you admit Fury was the better man vs Wilder. Embarrassed him for the vast majority of the fight. Now you won't even acknowledge he's had mental health issues. Wow... talk about a cultist... you're definitely that all over. The fight was a draw lol I really don’t give a dàmn who won the fight. This has nothing to do with Wilder this is a thread about Joshua belts. Pay attention. Funny you didn’t touch on the cheating part.

Well the fact of the matter remains, Ortiz almost beat Wilder(the true supposed boogieman whom I been saying had many weaknesses fury can capitalize on) who AJ swerved & hes been calling AJ out for ages too,so if AJ faces someone less dangerous than Ortiz( despite the fact that beating him will basically prove hes better than Wilder) then I'll still rate Ortiz above AJ despite me agreeing 100% that AJ will win,(Thats just how I roll I value fighters who take big risks above those who don't) AJ has only faced Klitscho that was truly elite,the rest were big underdogs,I do think AJ on his day might beat Wilder/Fury etc.but hes too happy beating hearns lapdogs 4 big money Parker's a decent fighter. Breazeale is also durable and tough but I'd rank Povetkin higher than anybody Wilder has faced outside of Fury. He's more proven than Ortiz. The same for Fury (Wilder aside). Fury and AJ have both taken care of Wlad. AJ and Wilder and their teams are both at fault for that matchup not happening yet. The public facts show just that, but a lot of people focus only on where AJ's team went wrong which is funny to me.

Who the f#uck has Ortiz fought? Crap amateur and professional records Who the f#uck has Wilder fought? Fury just schooled him with his first real fight in 3 years and Ortiz shown he isn't a murder looking poor against multiple C grade fighters. Whyte, Parker, Klitschko, Povetkin have all backed up their level way more and AJ beat them all. You keep saying “WHO HAVE THEY FOUGHT!!” And then you bring up Whyte, Parker and Povetkin, who’s only big fights are all losses. By your logic, Tomas Mrazek is a top heavyweight because he’s got so many top names on his resume.

Fury has the two best wins in the division and is the man who beat the man and scored a nice win this weekend despite ring rust and all kind of problems but you can’t go away for three years and keep your belts. Had he stayed in the game and encountered fair officials he’d have all four belts now IMO. Or lost the rematch with Wlad. Him and AJ need to fight only way either one can claim to be the real best.

You Wilder guyz never cease to amaze me. Just cannot for the life of you admit Fury was the better man vs Wilder. Embarrassed him for the vast majority of the fight. Now you won't even acknowledge he's had mental health issues. Wow... talk about a cultist... you're definitely that all over. I can admit Fury was the better man for a couple of prolonged spells but the 2 biggest moments of the fight were Fury crashing to the canvas . Fury was KO'd and by some miracle rose from the dead . The reason he got up was to give us a rematch Its probably 1 of the most spectacular moments boxing has ever seen . We want to see more of it

Well the fact of the matter remains, Ortiz almost beat Wilder(the true supposed boogieman whom I been saying had many weaknesses fury can capitalize on) who AJ swerved & hes been calling AJ out for ages too,so if AJ faces someone less dangerous than Ortiz( despite the fact that beating him will basically prove hes better than Wilder) then I'll still rate Ortiz above AJ despite me agreeing 100% that AJ will win,(Thats just how I roll I value fighters who take big risks above those who don't)AJ has only faced Klitscho that was truly elite,the rest were big underdogs,I do think AJ on his day might beat Wilder/Fury etc.but hes too happy beating hearns lapdogs. Who the f#uck has Ortiz fought? Crap amateur and professional records Who the f#uck has Wilder fought? Fury just schooled him with his first real fight in 3 years and Ortiz shown he isn't a murder looking poor against multiple C grade fighters. Whyte, Parker, Klitschko, Povetkin have all backed up their level way more and AJ beat them all.

That logic is off I'm afraid. AJ beats Ortiz for me. AJ has the majority of the belts and faced more stiffer competition. AJ wouldn't be going the distance with Scott, Allen or taking an age to get rid of Kauffman either. Ortiz is a hyped up boogyman all of a sudden because it's Wilder's best win. I don't want to see AJ pummel Whyte again, Whyte is garbage to me. We should be getting AJ and Wilder in April but that won't happen. Well the fact of the matter remains, Ortiz almost beat Wilder(the true supposed boogieman whom I been saying had many weaknesses fury can capitalize on) who AJ swerved & hes been calling AJ out for ages too,so if AJ faces someone less dangerous than Ortiz( despite the fact that beating him will basically prove hes better than Wilder) then I'll still rate Ortiz above AJ despite me agreeing 100% that AJ will win,(Thats just how I roll I value fighters who take big risks above those who don't) AJ has only faced Klitscho that was truly elite,the rest were big underdogs,I do think AJ on his day might beat Wilder/Fury etc.but hes too happy beating hearns lapdogs 4 big money

But didn’t he lose the belts for his PED use? I’ve never seen a fighter come off a two year suspension for PEDs and get praised like Fury did lol. Now all the media saying he was out 2yrs due to mental health smh. That seems like the excuse for a lot of things now a days, when actually he was out 2 years because he was a cheater. Even tried to cheat the testing in this Wilder fight You Wilder guyz never cease to amaze me. Just cannot for the life of you admit Fury was the better man vs Wilder. Embarrassed him for the vast majority of the fight. Now you won't even acknowledge he's had mental health issues. Wow... talk about a cultist... you're definitely that all over.

AJ is above him in skills & would beat him,but Ortiz has been willing to take on all comers at a moment's notice (granted hes a no named journeyman) so until AJ faces Ortiz I rank him above AJ. If AJ faces dillan whyte next Ima lmao at his fans defending it. AJ needs to face Ortiz next if Wilder fury are out, nobody wants to see him face no dillon fckin whyte That logic is off I'm afraid. AJ beats Ortiz for me. AJ has the majority of the belts and faced more stiffer competition. AJ wouldn't be going the distance with Scott, Allen or taking an age to get rid of Kauffman either. Ortiz is a hyped up boogyman all of a sudden because it's Wilder's best win. I don't want to see AJ pummel Whyte again, Whyte is garbage to me. We should be getting AJ and Wilder in April but that won't happen.

Ever since Wilder beat Ortiz you guys have propelled this guy up to the point hes probably the most overrated active boxer. Ortiz ain't in no damn top 3 stop that. AJ is above him in skills & would beat him,but Ortiz has been willing to take on all comers at a moment's notice (granted hes a no named journeyman) so until AJ faces Ortiz I rank him above AJ. If AJ faces dillan whyte next Ima lmao at his fans defending it. AJ needs to face Ortiz next if Wilder fury are out, nobody wants to see him face no dillon fckin whyte

As I've said from the beginning,Fury is the true champ of the UK who stood up for the UK's honor & stepped up when the other pretender was busy facing hypejobs on their way out,when the other UK hypejob was busy turning down the offer he asked for & gave his word would be enough. Fury is the #1 hw,Wilders #2 & Ortiz is #3. Ever since Wilder beat Ortiz you guys have propelled this guy up to the point hes probably the most overrated active boxer. Ortiz ain't in no damn top 3 stop that.

True Should really ask pay AJ rental fee or something

As I've said from the beginning,Fury is the true champ of the UK who stood up for the UK's honor & stepped up when the other pretender was busy facing hypejobs on their way out,when the other UK hypejob was busy turning down the offer he asked for & gave his word would be enough. Fury is the #1 hw,Wilders #2 & Ortiz is #3. I agree!! Fury is speaking FACTS!!

So regardless my point stands the result was fair. Yeah. Considering the scorecard that went to Wilder it could have been far worse. The draw is acceptable, albeit unsatisfying.

Fury has the two best wins in the division and is the man who beat the man and scored a nice win this weekend despite ring rust and all kind of problems but you can’t go away for three years and keep your belts. Had he stayed in the game and encountered fair officials he’d have all four belts now IMO.

Please learn how to score a boxing match. Below are two columns. The left hand side would be Wilders round scores using your 'scenario', the right hand side Furys. I'll leave the math to you ;) 10 - 8 10 - 8 10 - 9 10 - 9 9 - 10 9 - 10 9 - 10 9 - 10 9 - 10 9 - 10 9 - 10 9 - 10 Total: ? - ? I made a mistake but Fury did not win 8 rds only a true fanboi would say he did thats my point,I gave Wilder 3 rds besides the kd rds & he could've won 2 rds more than that because tyson wasn't winning his rds that clearly. So regardless my point stands the result was fair.

Based on what i keep reading, I get the impression that 90% of Boxingscene members believe that a knockdown is worth a 2-point deduction, or at least that the 1st knockdown in a round is worth 2-points. Thats how a kd rd is scored 90% of the time as it was in this fight.