Is your position that when Miller failed a drug test, Joshua would have canceled his upcoming fight and just waited around for Wilder?
This all happened after Wilder had already rejected DAZN's offer which was months before Joshua's Madison Garden fight last year.
I can easily see Hearn doing something like that to make sure AJ went to a potential Wilder fight undefeated.
When Miller failed, Wilder still had the Breazeale fight coming up. So you're suggesting Joshua would have canceled his fight, waited for Wilder to fight Breazeale, and then waited another six months to face Wilder? Joshua would have been inactive for 15 months at that point. I just don't see it.
Could see Hearn making him fight a bum instead of Ruiz if the Wilder fight was guaranteed to be next.
Did you forget that Joshua lost? Wilder would have never gotten the money. It was 40 million to fight Joshua if Joshua won his next fight, but Joshua lost his next fight.
We'll never know now but I doubt the Ruiz fight even happens if Wilder took the deal.
Will go down as one of the biggest missed opportunities in boxing history, much of the allure regarding Pac and Floyd was one was still a undefeated fighter and 90% were hoping Pac would end the streak.
AJ and Wilder both lost within a year of each other.
Truly sad.
Would have gone down as probably the biggest fight of last decade had it happened.
Thats the announcement, says he has the biggest budget in boxing
If that is so he should break the bank getting both the Charlos, Spence Jr, Benavidez and Bivol to his stable.
So at this stage it looks like Povetkin (WBA-WBO mandatory), Wilder (The Ring/WBC unification), Pulev (IBF mandatory) would probably be Joshua's next three fights over the next 18 months or so if he wants to remain the defending undisputed heavyweight champion. That's a hell of a resume if he won all of those.
Don't you watch fights for entertainment? Regardless of level? Anyway Cheese man is a real good prospect. Seemed pretty skilled so far.
When he's not taking the Alabama slamma 1hourbum is hating on the British boxing scene.
Ortiz is a bigger puncher than Haye and a far superior boxer. Chisora would not survive him I'm afraid but I respect your opinion.
Perhaps 10 years ago Ortiz was all those things . Technically a better boxer than Haye possibly? but I doubt a bigger puncher.
Regardless Chisora vs this version of Ortiz would be a good scrap that I could only see Ortiz winning by decision.
“Does right by his fighters”������ He fed Kell Brook to GGG in a fight he had NO CHANCE in, to feed his own ego and greed.
“AJ is probably the biggest star”������ GTFOH Canelo consistently breaks 1m PPV buys in the US, AJ can’t even get close to 1m views in the US. He’s the clear number 2 and has potential to become bigger but he is NOT on the same level as Canelo.
As I said people who understand boxing know exactly what Hearn is...
Brook wanted the GGG fight after Eubank *****ed out and Hearn delivered. That's entirely on Brook and his team for taking the fight.
Also globally AJ is probably the biggest star in boxing which is incredible considering he's yet to crack the American market.
**** American PPV's. They're not entirely reflective of a boxer's fame internationally. I stand by what I said. Outside of America and Mexico nobody knows who the **** Canelo is. The dude can barely string together two words of English.
I'm from Australia and I'm starting to see a fair few posters of Joshua due to his sponsorship deals with Beats by Dre and Under Armour. He could go to China, Nigeria or the UAE and fill up football stadiums for his fights. Do you honestly see that being the case for Canelo? A case could genuinely be made for Joshua not needing the American market.
It would be disappointing if he doesn't come over, and it would be a bad look considering how much Deontay has been talking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3OVQtuzb7o
Is it just me or does it seem like he's hiding something about his plans after his probable victory against Parker? Just the way he gives that sneaky smile I get the feeling that Hearn and AJ have something planned regarding Wilder to hype up that fight. Could be a WWE style entrance and call out from Wilder. :fingersx:
Also he came across as a lot more natural in that interview with Kugan. The $500m Dana White offer cracked me up.
He’s a fantastic salesman, a brilliant mouthpiece and great at exploiting the casual market with the backing of UK multimedia superpower in sky. Fortunately for Hearn, boxing relies on the casual fan base, but the real fans who truly understand the game can see straight through this salesman BS.
I’m in no way denying that Hearn and Sky’s formula has been very successful in the UK.
But he’s NOT some ATG promoter who “saved British boxing” like retards who don’t understand the sport like to suggest. And he certainly isn’t going to “takeover America” like even dumber people like to suggest.
I really can't understand why Hearn getting the interest of the casual fan base in the UK is something to hate on. Like you said being a brilliant salesman is what a great promoter is supposed to do yet according to you that makes him bad for boxing.
Also if you're comparing him to Warren only time will tell if you're right or not. Give him till the middle of next decade to see if he's a success in America.
I wouldn't mind seeing Wilder/Whyte while Joshua gets the Povetkin madatory out of the way, than an end of the clash wouldn't be half bad
That's what I'm advocating too. Have it as a heavyweight doubleheader like they did in '04 with De La Hoya/Hopkins in MSG or the Barclays to test the waters in the US for a potential PPV there.
he's ranked 55th by Boxrec but he fought no one worthy. Maybe Karo Murat will accept hes #11.
The IBF will be sanctioning a murder if he ends up being Berterbiev's mandatory.
Which is why it comes across as you wearing fan goggles. Wilder has two wins over top 3 heavyweights. Parker's best wins are lower end top 10 at best and he struggled in those fights.
If you're giving Wilder credit for his first fight against Stiverne then fair enough. As the WBC champion at the time Stiverne was ranked pretty highly.
Still extremely embarrassing that Wilder's only decent wins after 40 fights is that first Stiverne fight and Ortiz.
It’s not the fact that he gets the casuals invested, it’s the fact that he does it based on a false narrative and LIES. I find it absolutely embarrassing to hear these delusional idiots try and tell me: “Brook would beat Spence at 154”, “Wilder is ducking Whyte”, “AJ is the biggest star in world boxing” etc etc it’s utter NONSENSE.
These morons are essentially brainwashed by whatever narrative Hearn and Sky Sports spin, they’re NOT even boxing fans they’re just matchroom/Sky fans. It’s pathetic and it gives an extremely bad representation of the UK fans.
I’ll give him a 100,000 years he’ll never have the same success in the USA because the sole reason he has been successful in the UK is due to him having the backing of the market leading/dominating TV network in Sky Sports, he will not have the same privilege in the USA.
At the end of the day though he does right by the fighters and the public by delivering fights everybody wants to see and if that pisses off a few hardcore fans such as yourself then so be it because apart from that purely from a promotional point of view he's been great for boxing.
Also globally AJ is probably the biggest star in boxing which is incredible considering he's yet to crack the American market.
Hopefully we're all getting played here by Hearn and Joshua and Wilder comes out either with a WWE entrance and/or callout or flys into the ring like the Fan-Man in Bowe-Holyfield 2.
Would've been a great fight at light welterweight if the Khan that fought Maidana fought Crawford but at this stage of their respective careers Bud probably stops him.
Horn is no world beater, let's be honest. The Aussies just go mad if they have a World champion, you can't blame them. They only have a couple of champions per generation, bear in mind.
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As an Australian I have to say truer words have never been spoken. Probably the biggest reason why I can't stand the boxing scene over here.
I was hearing this statement all around, the main reason why he backed Horn up his because Horn was eating punches in his teeth every time he was in front of Bud.
Horn's main problem is he's a sht boxer, his fight versus Corcoran was horrendous.
Bud so called smaller but had a reach advantage over Horn and reach is the best physical advantage you can get in boxing.
Bud's OK for WW but he would struggle at 154 facing guys like Hurd or Lara who are bigger, longer and better than Horn.
If 154 is full of Brundage or Sadam Ali champion he will be fine.
He also can win a 160 title versus Daniel Geale, Lemieux type of champions, but I wouldn't imagine beat a solid 160 champ like GGG or Jacobs.
Fair points.
It would still be a few years away but I guess it depends on the middleweight landscape then and he'll have to be very selective in who he fights if he did make the move.
I do think it's a question of when not if he'll go to light middleweight. Not that he's anywhere near their class but if Mayweather and Pacquaio were big enough to do it so is Crawford.
Do you think Errol Spence could do it?
Like the vast majority of American 'stars' then..
There are very few global boxing stars. Mayweather and Pacquiao, and to some extent Klitschko. The rest of them have mainly been regional (US) level stars
In the PPV era there have been very few truly global boxing stars. I'd say Tyson, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao and to a lesser extent Lewis and Holyfield have been the only ones. Both the Klitschkos would have gotten that recognition too had they fought more in the States.
Roy Jones Jr should have been in that category. Real shame he isn't up there with the likes of Tyson and Mayweather as a global PPV star.
Also McGregor is undoubtedly the first and only MMA fighter to attain that level of recognition.