Hearn confirms again that he they will let Wilder in the ring if AJ wins, also willing to put AJ on the contract for a winner in Whyte vs Wilder.
Those are the 2 things Wilder asked for.. But despite Hearn sending a increased offer for the Whyte fight, no one from Wilder's team has got back to Hearn saying they want AJ on the contract.
Wilder only talks about putting AJ on the Whyte contract on social media but that request has never been sent to Hearn. Wilder still isn't going to attend the fight despite them saying they will let him in and instead of fighting Whyte he will fight Breazeale or Kownacki next.
Let's see what the wilder d1ck riders have to say about this.
All Wilder has to do is make a reasonable split demand with no stupid stipulations. If Wilder says he'll accept the same deal Parker has Joshua will have no choice but to accept or look like a duck.
Wilder doesn't want the fight though which is why he's asking for stupid ****.
Hearn should send Wilder a fixed fee offer to fight in a years time, then we'll see who's ducking who.
Brook wanted the GGG fight after Eubank *****ed out and Hearn delivered. That's entirely on Brook and his team for taking the fight.
**** American PPV's. They're not entirely reflective of a boxer's fame internationally. I stand by what I said. Outside of America and Mexico nobody knows who the **** Canelo is. The dude can barely string together two words of English.
I'm from Australia and I'm starting to see a fair few posters of Joshua due to his sponsorship deals with Beats by Dre and Under Armour. He could go to China, Nigeria or the UAE and fill up football stadiums for his fights. Do you honestly see that being the case for Canelo? A case could genuinely be made for Joshua not needing the American market.
How’s it on Brook??? Fighters will fight ANYONE. A promoter should be looking out for his fighters best interest that’s their job, not looking out for his own interests which is exactly what Hearn did in feeding Brook to GGG in a fight we all knew he had no chance in.
Where’s the proof??????? AJ has NEVER PROVEN he’s a a draw outside of the UK.
And yes Canelo could certainly fill up stadiums outside the US. “No one outside of USA and Mexico know who the f*ck Canelo is”😭😭😭😭😭 the level of stupidity of that comment is immeasurable.🙈🙈🤣🤣
You do realise Canelo has fought on PPV in the UK, Ireland, Canada, Malaysia, the Philippines etc. Where has AJ fought on PPV globally again????
If you don’t think Canelo is the biggest star in boxing you clearly DKSAB.
“Does right by his fighters” He fed Kell Brook to GGG in a fight he had NO CHANCE in, to feed his own ego and greed.
“AJ is probably the biggest star” GTFOH Canelo consistently breaks 1m PPV buys in the US, AJ can’t even get close to 1m views in the US. He’s the clear number 2 and has potential to become bigger but he is NOT on the same level as Canelo.
As I said people who understand boxing know exactly what Hearn is...
Brook wanted the GGG fight after Eubank *****ed out and Hearn delivered. That's entirely on Brook and his team for taking the fight.
Also globally AJ is probably the biggest star in boxing which is incredible considering he's yet to crack the American market.
**** American PPV's. They're not entirely reflective of a boxer's fame internationally. I stand by what I said. Outside of America and Mexico nobody knows who the **** Canelo is. The dude can barely string together two words of English.
I'm from Australia and I'm starting to see a fair few posters of Joshua due to his sponsorship deals with Beats by Dre and Under Armour. He could go to China, Nigeria or the UAE and fill up football stadiums for his fights. Do you honestly see that being the case for Canelo? A case could genuinely be made for Joshua not needing the American market.
Whyte?!? What the ef?!? GTFOH. This guy Hearns is trash.
Klitz is the only fighter of note on AJ’s resume and he was way pass prime. These are the undisputed no 1 and 2 heavyweights in the world. They need to fight each other next. Point blank period. Anyone defending this is trash.
Timeline is pretty simple here:
1) Hearn said Wilder should fight Whyte first and then AJ
2) Wilder said OK, put it in writing that he gets AJ if he beats Whyte
3) Hearn said, um, no, it doesn’t work that way (wonder what changed in how things work?)
4) Wilder said OK, I’ll fight Ortiz instead
5) Wilder KTFO Ortiz
6) Whyte beat some blubbery Aussie bar bouncer who had fought once in 2 years
7) AJ (and his referee protector) looked like ass vs. Parker
8) Hearn decided no way he wants to feed AJ to Wilder, renews demand that he gets to determine that Wilder has to beat another of his fighters to ‘earn’ a true heavyweight unification fight between the best two guys in the division in the biggest heavyweight fight since probably Lewis-Tyson
Analysis: Wilder called Hearn/AJ’s bluff, said he’d fight Whyte if he was guaranteed AJ next if he won and they blinked and folded their hand. Now they want to try it on his terms but Wilder has since beaten Ortiz in an exciting fight and Wilder vs. AJ is the only fight that people want, the only fight that makes since.
The Whyte smoke screen is a dodge. Basically, Hearn sees Wilder as a vicious junkyard dog coming for his man, AJ, and he’s hoping he can throw some raw meat (Whyte) in the other direction and the dog will take off after it instead. But Wilder has already sunk his teeth in and isn’t letting go of AJ.
MAKE THE FIGHT.
why are the AJ slurpers so hellbent on seeing Wilder fight an AJ leftover? this is weird behavior from fans who claim they want the best facing each other.
what does Wilder prove beating Whyte? nothing! He proves nothing. he just beat an AJ leftover. zero credit.
so why waste time?
you pathetic slurpers are leagues above the Pacfarts. the rabid Pacquiao fans never demanded Floyd fight a leftover to prove himself. you AJ slurpers are so pitiful its nauseating.
AJ has had two stink fests in a row. Eddie robbing you tea sipping idiots blind and you enjoy every minute of it.
Wilder released a statement a while back, cant remember if it was twitter or some ****, anyway it was posted on here, that he would fight Whyte if AJ was on the contract. He even went so far as to claim the original Whyte contract did not have AJ on it...now it does, so what's the Alabama bum gonna say now?
Also, AJ on a Sky interview just said negotiations have gone from 50/50 to 60/40. Wilder is starting to understand his own worth, or lack of.
You understand boxing ? lol
Even with the posters you argue with who have holes in their narrative , are by far more knowledgeable than you !:lol1:
You can’t even spell Klitschko😭😭😭 Seriously, how can you question ANYONE’S intelligence or knowledge.
“Klitchko”🙈🙈🤣🤣🤣 pathetic.
At the end of the day though he does right by the fighters and the public by delivering fights everybody wants to see and if that pisses off a few hardcore fans such as yourself then so be it because apart from that purely from a promotional point of view he's been great for boxing.
Also globally AJ is probably the biggest star in boxing which is incredible considering he's yet to crack the American market.
“Does right by his fighters”😭😭😭 He fed Kell Brook to GGG in a fight he had NO CHANCE in, to feed his own ego and greed.
“AJ is probably the biggest star”😭😭😭 GTFOH Canelo consistently breaks 1m PPV buys in the US, AJ can’t even get close to 1m views in the US. He’s the clear number 2 and has potential to become bigger but he is NOT on the same level as Canelo.
As I said people who understand boxing know exactly what Hearn is...
I just watched the two best active HWs in the world weigh in before fighting each other tomorrow.
You really are delusional. Nobody credible believes Joseph Parker is the #2 heavyweight in the world. Boxrec has him at #7. He's a 6 to 1 underdog against AJ, while Wilder is less than a 2 to 1 underdog against AJ.
Parker struggled to barely decision Andy Ruiz and Hughie Fury. Parker likely gets dominated by AJ. AJ and Wilder are clearly the two best active heavyweights in the world. You've been completely brainwashed by Eddie Hearn.
You don't know if it's a clean offer. You don't know what Wilder usually makes. You don't know what Wilder would make if the fight went to purse bid. You don't have enough information to know if the offer is worth accepting. However, since you're so willing to believe Hearn, Hearn has said he's increased the offer substantially, which means when you were wrong before when you were saying Wilder should accept.
Haymon doesn't deny anything or call anybody anything, which is one of the reasons people lie about his fighters so much. They know he won't respond. So it's open season to try to manipulate the public. Which is what's happened here. Eddie is an incredibly talented promoter, a professional liar, and you believe what he says because you don't know any better.
Haymon didn't pick him, Wilder did. Wilder picked him because he wanted to prove the haters wrong by fighting the most feared and avoided guy in the division. Unfortunately, Wilder is too naive to realize that even if he becomes undisputed champion, haters gonna hate. There's nothing you can do to stop them. Because King Kong is so dangerous, Haymon went out and signed him to protect himself in the event that Wilder lost.
That's not what happened. You're living in an alternate universe. In reality, Klitschko lost all of his belts the same year Wilder won his. When Wilder won his belt, Klitschko was already committed to fighting Bryant Jennings. Klitschko and Wilder had the same manager, Shelly Finkel, and Shelly said Wilder would make two quick defenses and then he'd be ready to fight Wladimir. He kept his word, Wilder fought two quick defenses, and then publicly challenged Klitschko. Because Klitschko had to fight Fury, who was the overdue mandatory of both the WBA and the WBO, Wilder publicly stated he wanted Klitschko in 2016 after he beat Fury. But Klitschko lost, so the fight never happened.
They did. Parker was offered a 50/50 deal last year and was seriously considering it. Ultimately, Parker couldn't accept the fight because he can't fight in the US without Bob Arum and Arum blocked the unification fight with Wilder.
He said he'd fight Whyte if it guaranteed him AJ and Hearn said no. Wilder just knocked out King Kong, he's not going to be afraid of Whyte. If Hearn was so confident in Whyte, he'd move him into the mandatory position and force the fight. Clearly Hearn is nervous that Whyte would lose in a final eliminator against King Kong.
I didn't need to read more than the couple of paragraphs of that to realise it's a waste of time carrying on this discussion. And I've already wasted far too much of my precious time in these dung pile Wilder/AJ threads this week to feel like throwing any more of it into the cess pit.
I just watched the two best active HWs in the world weigh in before fighting each other tomorrow. They both looked in awesome shape, and I honestly don't give a damn about Wilder and Ortiz right now.
Hearn has stated multiple times that he made Wilder an offer of $3million plus the entire US income to fight Dillian Whyte.
You don't know if it's a clean offer. You don't know what Wilder usually makes. You don't know what Wilder would make if the fight went to purse bid. You don't have enough information to know if the offer is worth accepting. However, since you're so willing to believe Hearn, Hearn has said he's increased the offer substantially, which means when you were wrong before when you were saying Wilder should accept.
Nobody on Wilder's side has ever denied that or called Hearn a liar.
Haymon doesn't deny anything or call anybody anything, which is one of the reasons people lie about his fighters so much. They know he won't respond. So it's open season to try to manipulate the public. Which is what's happened here. Eddie is an incredibly talented promoter, a professional liar, and you believe what he says because you don't know any better.
"King Kong is the most feared and avoided fighter in the division"
Bwahahaha! If that was true Haymon would never have picked him for a voluntary by Wilder, and you know it!
Haymon didn't pick him, Wilder did. Wilder picked him because he wanted to prove the haters wrong by fighting the most feared and avoided guy in the division. Unfortunately, Wilder is too naive to realize that even if he becomes undisputed champion, haters gonna hate. There's nothing you can do to stop them. Because King Kong is so dangerous, Haymon went out and signed him to protect himself in the event that Wilder lost.
If Wilder was so keen to unify the division he wouldn't have avoided the opportunity to do just that, against Wlad, after he won the WBC belt.
That's not what happened. You're living in an alternate universe. In reality, Klitschko lost all of his belts the same year Wilder won his. When Wilder won his belt, Klitschko was already committed to fighting Bryant Jennings. Klitschko and Wilder had the same manager, Shelly Finkel, and Shelly said Wilder would make two quick defenses and then he'd be ready to fight Wladimir. He kept his word, Wilder fought two quick defenses, and then publicly challenged Klitschko. Because Klitschko had to fight Fury, who was the overdue mandatory of both the WBA and the WBO, Wilder publicly stated he wanted Klitschko in 2016 after he beat Fury. But Klitschko lost, so the fight never happened.
If he was so keen to unify the division he would have instructed his team to send offers to Parker
They did. Parker was offered a 50/50 deal last year and was seriously considering it. Ultimately, Parker couldn't accept the fight because he can't fight in the US without Bob Arum and Arum blocked the unification fight with Wilder.
If he really wants to unify the division now he will accept Hearn's offer to fight Whyte. Let's wait and see if he does.
He said he'd fight Whyte if it guaranteed him AJ and Hearn said no. Wilder just knocked out King Kong, he's not going to be afraid of Whyte. If Hearn was so confident in Whyte, he'd move him into the mandatory position and force the fight. Clearly Hearn is nervous that Whyte would lose in a final eliminator against King Kong.
It’s not the fact that he gets the casuals invested, it’s the fact that he does it based on a false narrative and LIES. I find it absolutely embarrassing to hear these delusional idiots try and tell me: “Brook would beat Spence at 154”, “Wilder is ducking Whyte”, “AJ is the biggest star in world boxing” etc etc it’s utter NONSENSE.
These morons are essentially brainwashed by whatever narrative Hearn and Sky Sports spin, they’re NOT even boxing fans they’re just matchroom/Sky fans. It’s pathetic and it gives an extremely bad representation of the UK fans.
I’ll give him a 100,000 years he’ll never have the same success in the USA because the sole reason he has been successful in the UK is due to him having the backing of the market leading/dominating TV network in Sky Sports, he will not have the same privilege in the USA.
At the end of the day though he does right by the fighters and the public by delivering fights everybody wants to see and if that pisses off a few hardcore fans such as yourself then so be it because apart from that purely from a promotional point of view he's been great for boxing.
Also globally AJ is probably the biggest star in boxing which is incredible considering he's yet to crack the American market.
Boxnation was never a competitor to Sky. Ever. And that’s not why Sly reinvested in boxing. People subscribe to Sky Sports for football not boxing. Boxnation’s viewing were piss poor, it was being watched by hardcore boxing fans only, not casual fans. It had no crossover appeal. Use all the emojis you want, if you think Boxnation were ever a threat to Sky then you’re the deluded one.
The other promoters might be “boxing people”. But that doesn’t make them better promoters.
I think everyone can see through Eddie, he’s not shy about the fact that he’s in the business to make loads of money, fortunately for the fans he does that by putting on big fights like Joshua v Parker which fans all want to see.
I bet you’re the sort of guy that would sit their watching shítty BDO darts because you don’t like the drinking and chanting at the PDC.
Boxnation WAS a competitor to Sky in the BOXING MARKET and still is, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.😂😂
The reason for sky re-investing in boxing was down to Warren creating his own boxing platform. Warren’s stable was far superior to anything on Sky at the time so sky realised in order to take back control of the market.
I didn’t say they were better promoter’s I said they see through his BS cause they understand boxing. And as I said, a guy like Hobson could certainly claim he has done a better job with his fighters compared to Hearn relative to network backing and budget. But we don’t exactly know the figures so we won’t get into that one.
As I say, people who understand boxing know what Hearn is and see through the BS.
And as for Darts you couldn’t be more wrong...🤣🤣
I regularly attend PDC shows and have even got to the semi finals of the UK open qualifiers a couple of years ago.
Barry Hearn has been great for Darts, Snooker etc unfortunately him and his son don’t know their Barney Ross’ to Barney Rubbels’ when it comes to boxing.
I really can't understand why Hearn getting the interest of the casual fan base in the UK is something to hate on. Like you said being a brilliant salesman is what a great promoter is supposed to do yet according to you that makes him bad for boxing.
Also if you're comparing him to Warren only time will tell if you're right or not. Give him till the middle of next decade to see if he's a success in America.
It’s not the fact that he gets the casuals invested, it’s the fact that he does it based on a false narrative and LIES. I find it absolutely embarrassing to hear these delusional idiots try and tell me: “Brook would beat Spence at 154”, “Wilder is ducking Whyte”, “AJ is the biggest star in world boxing” etc etc it’s utter NONSENSE.
These morons are essentially brainwashed by whatever narrative Hearn and Sky Sports spin, they’re NOT even boxing fans they’re just matchroom/Sky fans. It’s pathetic and it gives an extremely bad representation of the UK fans.
I’ll give him a 100,000 years he’ll never have the same success in the USA because the sole reason he has been successful in the UK is due to him having the backing of the market leading/dominating TV network in Sky Sports, he will not have the same privilege in the USA.
If you're tired of being told that you're believing lies, stop believing lies.
Wilder has instructed his team to make the Joshua fight ASAP. I know that because I'm close to members of his team.
But even without any sort of behind the scenes connections, you should be able to use common sense. AJ is the most lucrative fight possible, of course Wilder wants to fight him. You don't fight King Kong, the most feared and avoided fighter in the division, in a voluntary defense, unless you're willing to face anybody.
Wilder has nothing to lose by fighting AJ. It's the big cash out fight win or lose. Of course he wants it. Use your brain.
Hearn has stated multiple times that he made Wilder an offer of $3million plus the entire US income to fight Dillian Whyte. Nobody on Wilder's side has ever denied that or called Hearn a liar. Yet you claim to know it's a lie because you work closely with Wilder's team.
If I said I that know it's true because I'm Barry Hearn, and Eddie works for me, that would make me seem like a retarded fantasist, wouldn't it?
Think about that and stop playing the fool.
"King Kong is the most feared and avoided fighter in the division"
Bwahahaha! If that was true Haymon would never have picked him for a voluntary by Wilder, and you know it!
If Wilder was so keen to unify the division he wouldn't have avoided the opportunity to do just that, against Wlad, after he won the WBC belt.
If he was so keen to unify the division he would have instructed his team to send offers to Parker, and also to AJ, before AJ beat Wlad moved up to a higher level, financially, than Haymon can afford.
If he really wants to unify the division now he will accept Hearn's offer to fight Whyte. Let's wait and see if he does.