Da_Machine

Lol at how many title holders he had beat in his career and he hasn't got a belt. It's crazy. That includes judah and Alexander.

Interesting. ...

Wow. I'm disgusted. Lederman and Lampley are hacks. You could tell bhop knew what was really up. 120 more punches landed. Landing at nearly 50% and that was a close fight. No. A couple flurry and 1 hard shot a rd don't undo everything earlier in the Rd. I feel like I'm in Lala land But the right guy one. Thank god.

Stfu you noobs.I've said it many times. Certain fights are so easy to call this is one of them. Pay up

I'm even more confident in picking Matthysse now.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/al-haymon-still-pulling-all-the-strings-as-boxing-s-unknown-czar-213946413-boxing.html In the NBC Saturday prime time Slot they are up an average of 190% in the 18-49 demo. NBC sports execs are really happy. Article in link.

https://youtu.be/GQJDkex74mo

I keep seeing these arguments about how he's losing so much money. Blah blah blah. He has no advitisors. Etc. Haymon has paid for 2 plus years of network TV air time already. Whether or not you like it or whether it fails or succeeds you will be watching the majority of boxing on PBC network tv cards for the next two years. It takes time to build a brand. I kind of like it. People are simple minded and don't want to work for WHT they watch. Haymon wants people to see PBC and think big time boxing. The best. Whether it's true or not. If people actually began to associate with boxing like that all the haters are in trouble. He will get a big network deal. He will bring in new fans. He will make a profit. And he will be here to stay.

Source was tvbythenumbers. Not as good as i was hoping.

Poll coming.

I see that network TV ratings are out but can't find cable ratings at tvbythenumbers. Fighters and Pbc on spike were trending on twitter throughout the show. I think they may be good.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/3/12/8204613/weights-berto-lopez-set-porter-garcia-reportedly-canceled

Predict PBC on Spike Berto vs Lopez TV Ratings I think if it can hit a million average, things are looking good. Spike is the type of channel that has a certain reputation, but one thing they always do right is production. They had great production with the UFC. For reference, here are Bellators ratings: http://themmareport.com/2015/03/rati...ve-viewership/ Bellator 122: 572,000 Bellator 123: 667,000 Bellator 124: 771,000 Bellator 125: 742,000 Bellator 126: 656,000 Bellator 127: 609,000 Bellator 128: 668,000 Bellator 129: 564,000 Bellator 130: 664,000 Bellator 131: 1.2 million Bellator 132: 767,000 Bellator 133: 565,000 Bellator 134: 872,000 UFC ratings back in the day: http://mmajunkie.com/2012/01/ufc-141...illion-viewers 1) UFC 126 (February 2011): 2 million viewers 2) UFC 141 (December 2011): 1.8 million viewers 3) UFC 109 (February 2010): 1.7 million 4) UFC 135 (September 2011): 1.6 million 4) UFC 131 (June 2011): 1.6 million 5) UFC 114 (May 2010): 1.6 million 7) UFC 129 (April 2010): 1.5 million 7) UFC 108 (January 2010): 1.5 million 7) UFC 121 (October 2010): 1.5 million 7) UFC 123 (November 2010): 1.5 million 11) UFC 133 (August 2011): 1.4 million 11) UFC 104 (October 2009): 1.4 million 11) UFC 103 (September 2009): 1.4 million 14) UFC 134 (August 2011): 1.3 million 14) UFC 130 (May 2011): 1.3 million 14) UFC 128 (March 2011): 1.3 million 14) UFC 119 (September 2010): 1.3 million 14) UFC 116 (July 2010): 1.3 million 14) UFC 115 (June 2010): 1.3 million 14) UFC 106 (November 2009): 1.3 million 21) UFC 139 (November 2011): 1.2 million 21) UFC 132 (July 2011): 1.2 million 21) UFC 111 (March 2010): 1.2 million 24) UFC 137 (October 2011): 1.1 million 24) UFC 118 (August 2010): 1.1 million 26) UFC 136 (October 2011): 1 million 27) UFC 125 (January 2011): 829,000* 28) UFC 140 (December 2011): 808,000* 29) UFC 127 (February 2011): 714,000* ***

It is my opinion that Haymon is simply investing these coming two years to secure a deal and doesn't necessarily need to make his money back. He and his investors are gambling at the chance for a big tv deal when the time shares run out. But I thought I'd put this up for fun, feel free to join in. -Commercials -Commercial Free championship Rds -Gate -In Ring Flyers -Merchandise -Commercial time calculations- Low End: 50k per minute / 27 minutes x 50k / $1,350, 000 High End: 200k per minute /27 minutes x 200k / $5,400,000 -Commercial Free Time- Low End: To be mentioned as commercial free sponsor / 50k per fight / 100k High end: To be mentioned as commercial free sponsor / 100k per fight / 200k -Gate- Low End: 500k-1.5m High End: 2m-5m -In Ring Flyers- Low End: Large Flyer 100k / Medium Flyer x4 100k / Small Rope Text x4 20k High End: Large Flyer 200k / Medium Flyer x4 200k / Small Rope Text x4 40k -Merchandise- Low end: 25k High End: 200k ***Both high and low end figures are completely speculative and under the best of circumstances*** Low End: Commercial Revenue: 1,350,000 Commercial Free Time: 100,000 Gate: 1,000,000 Flyers in ring: 220,000 Merchandise: 25,000 Total: $2,695,000 High End: Commercial Revenue: 5,400,000 Commercial Free Time: 200,000 Gate: 3,000,000 Flyers in ring: 390,000 Merchandise: 200,000 Total:$9,190,000 As you can see even on the low end, if things start moving along, it's not impossible to at least make your money back depending on who's fighting and what you are paying. As you can see on the high end, if things really take off, and you got a big fight, you could be making some serious cash. Theres a lot of potential money on network tv. Ive always been trying to tell people this. You get the sponsors and advertisers exited and it trumps anything HBO or Showtime can do.

This has the potential to be a gigantic snoozefest. Two guys who would rather set back, set things up, and counter. How do you think it will go? I dont know if my heart can take another snoozer on NBC.

LMAO, you guys are ****ing bipolar. Honestly, I cant believe people even care about the belts anymore. I cant remember the last time I cared about the belts. I hope Haymon creates one centralized PBC belt and eliminated the need for sanctioning bodies. And people would **** on that as if the WBC is the savoir of boxing. I just really dont understand people. They let bias and perceptions cloud their judgement even if its completely against what they originally stood for.

1) It won the demo for the night and won it big. Not just 18-49, but the younger 18-34 stat as well. For those of you who are unaware, this is the main thing advertisers look for which bodes well for PBC in future cards. 2) The rating increased every half hour. People were talking and people were interested. More and more viewers jumped on board. This looks good for future cards. 3) The fight peaked with a 3.0, which would have been 3.67m viewers watching the final 6 rds of the Guerrero-THurman card. Which means 3.67m people saw the most entertaining part of the night 4) Nielsen or whoever calculates these numbers decided boxing only has 1.2 people viewing per household. Im no expert, but I have seen a few people who think this is extremely low. For example, UFC on Fox 14 (their latest network show) did a 1.8 rating and got the same amount of viewers. 3.1m So what nielsen is saying is 1.7 people per household watch the UFC while 1.2 watch boxing. Does that make sense for combat sports, especially with the hispanic following boxing has? So if you use what the UFC get last nights show would have had 4.3m viewers with a peak of 5.1m.

Average viewers. Not peak. What do you think is a success?

He's creating a bottomline. When you watch boxing, this is what you will see (and im not talking about fights). He wants people who start watching boxing to associate it with A) the fighters and B) the fighters are on Again, he wants people see and think PBC when they think boxing. I think you will see a common theme along all networks this little experiment is happening with. I cant wait til ESPN's broadcast though. They know how to do it right. No Fluff, straight to an opening fight at the start of a broadcast. Quick and to the point news and interviews between fights. As much as I hate Atlas, him and that other guy (why the **** cant I remember his name?) have good flow and relationship to make things exciting.

If theyre smart they put Flores in his spot, or get Malignaggi, hell even Roy Jones. Get rid of that beast Ali too, it doesnt look good with her being bigger then every boxer.

LMAO, you ****ing reject. I cant even watch this fight, imagine a ****ing casual trying to.

danrafaelespn Dan Rafael One interesting thing about the PBC fights: No ring announcer in ring. Just a voice over the PA. There will be no entourages in ring either. Damn, thats gonna be weird.

How has it been from your point of view? I never watch tv anymore and don't ever watch NBC, so have you seen any commercials. How about marketing in general or hype online or in person? From casuals?

I want to apologize for criticizing Cotto.

Think of this. UFC got 100m a year from Fox. Thats ****ing insane. More then HBO and Showtime combined budgets by a wide margin. The thing is, UFC administration takes 75% + of the cake... With boxing a 100m dollar deal would allow every big fight you have to be thrown on one channel. Imagine a 150m or 200m dollar deal. All the marketing/shows etc. I think Haymon is looking at securing a big deal with all these timeshares on different networks. Oh ya #takeover

Get big names, get big numbers! Love it.

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I think Canelo is going to be the favorite in many eyes. I honestly dont. Kirklands chin isnt as **** as its made out to be and Canelos powers is not top notch by any degree. I see this as a 55-45 fight in favor of Kirkland. Of course it depends on what Kirkland shows up. He's really only not shown up a couple times. Once without Wolfe and the other time against the hugger Molina. A fight in which he had a torn shoulder and still won. Was going to win by KO before the ref screwed him. Either way my official vote is for Kirkland late rd tko. Ill take 2-1 odd bets.

Doing more or better? Is Arum the one to lead boxing into the future and grow the sport? GBP, someone else?

And other JWW's? Let's face it, IM a huge machine fan but with his style, age, weight, he has 2-4 years left tops with a limited US fan base. Why put your young guns in there with him again? What do you think, vote!