So WTF is Haymons Ultimate Goal Here? To Secure A Big Deal?

People thinking there's going to be some multiple deal network like the NFL are going to end up disappointed. Boxing isn't going to pull those kind of ratings. He's simply after a bigger place in the market since he has so many fighters and few places to show them as he's burned bridges at HBO and possibly Showtime.

Anyone who is able to produce boxing events every Saturday is good, at least, here in North America. I don't even know why two main networks (HBO and SHO) can't do it like 2 fights per week for each network (2/month). Is that so much to ask? Man, oftentimes there's not even one in a month. It's pathetic.

1. Take over boxing: any network (hbo), promoter (top rank) that doesn't give in will be sunk. 2. Create bidding war from multiple networks and then sign deals with multiple networks, not just one. 3. sign everyone, so anyone competing will have trouble just making a fight (already happening) 4. Make a lot of mismatches disguised as good fights (happening now). Haymon has a thing for mismatches.

It seems obvious to me that Haymon intends to expand the avenues in which fighters have to further their fight careers... By establishing working relationships with various outlets he has created more opportunities for his clients with financial stability as his main working goal...

Seems like he is a going the NFL or NBA Route more so than the UFC Route. Meaning in the future maybe doing a Package Deal like the NFL and the NBA in which Multiple Networks pay for the rights to Show PBC where as the UFC is just exclusive to 1 Network which is FOX. He has too many fighter to ever do a 1 Exclusive Network Deal!

basically take control of boxing... his handlers already control some of his fighters social media accounts so it wouldn't surprise me thats what hes going for

Look at all the programming that FOX got for that investment, though...it wasn't just about the UFC on FOX events, that happen infrequently. It was also about FOX getting all of the UFC's programming, which FOX was able to then take and put all over what eventually became their new sports channels, FOX Sports 1 and FOX Sports 2. For example, for the FS1 weekly ratings for February 2-8, four of the top five shows, and seven of the top 10 are UFC...and a lot of them aren't even live. 1 UFC FIGHT NIGHT: McGregor vs. Siver (taped) Sat 7:31PM- 9:30PM 119 0.2 308 2 MONSTER ENERGY SUPERCROSS: San Diego Sat 10:00PM-12:54AM 174 0.2 260 3 UFC RELOADED 177: Dillashaw vs. Soto Mon 8:00PM-11:00PM 180 0.2 253 4 UFC RELOADED 177: Dillashaw vs. Soto Sun 8:00PM-11:00PM 180 0.2 245 5 UFC FOX: Gustafsson vs. Johnson (taped) Thu 9:00PM-11:00PM 120 0.2 228 6 MONSTER SUPERCROSS BEHIND DREAM: Ken Roczen Sat 9:30PM-10:00PM 30 0.1 179 7 MONSTER JAM: St. Louis Sun 12:00PM- 1:00PM 60 0.1 176 8 UFC MAIN EVENT: 166: Rousey vs. Tate (taped) Thu 8:00PM- 9:00PM 60 0.1 162 9 UFC UNLEASHED: Women Fri 7:00PM- 8:00PM 60 0.1 156 10 UFC MAIN EVENT 162: Silva vs. Weidman and Edgar vs. Oliveira (taped) Sun 7:12PM- 8:00PM 48 0.1 155 http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/nbcsn-fox-sports-ratings-buzz-february-2-8.html For the week prior to that (January 26-February 1)...six of the seven shows are the UFC: 1 UFC PPV PRELIMS 183: Silva vs. Diaz Sat 8:00PM-10:00PM 120 0.8 1546 2 UFC PPV PREFIGHT 183: Silva vs. Diaz Sat 7:00PM- 8:00PM 60 0.3 550 3 MONSTER ENERGY SUPERCROSS: Anaheim Sat 10:00PM- 1:04AM 184 0.2 373 4 UFC ON FOX: Gustafsson vs. Johnson (delay) Fri 9:00PM-11:00PM 120 0.2 360 5 UFC PPV POST FIGHT 183: Silva vs. Diaz Sat 1:04AM- 2:04AM 60 0.2 318 6 UFC COUNTDOWN 183: Silva vs. Diaz Sat 6:00PM- 7:00PM 60 0.2 279 7 UFC FIGHT NIGHT: McGregor vs. Siver Tue 9:12PM-11:00PM 108 0.2 276 8 INTERNATIONAL FRIENDLY: Chile vs. USA Wed 6:07PM- 7:59PM 112 0.2 254 9 MONSTER JAM: Indianapolis Sun 12:00PM- 1:00PM 60 0.1 245 10 UFC COUNTDOWN 183: Silva vs. Diaz Fri 8:00PM- 9:00PM 60 0.1 244 http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/nbcsn-fox-sports-ratings-buzz-january-26-february-1.html UFC re-runs do better numbers than live boxing does on FS1...even if the PBC can significantly improve the ratings that Golden Boy does on FS1 (and other channels), it still has a ways to go to beat out the UFC's ratings...especially when it comes to the 18-34 year old male audience that drives the UFC's ratings and brings in the sponsors.

Promoters are a joke. Think about it. Even with HBO/Showtime who is doing all the leg work in promoting/marketing? Sure as **** isnt Arum. Sure isnt DLH. Haymon managing all these boxers with networks doing the leg work and someone like Schaeffer on the payroll as a middle man and voice of the company would be more profitable for boxers and cut out a lot of bull****. Its like the NBA or NFL rookie wage scale-all it does is eliminate the need to give an agent 10% since your number is already determined and the max deal re up is set. Hire a lawyer at 4%. Saves you millions. If you are a great, popular fighter-why the fuck would you want to pay a Don King or Arum as much as 25% and get Tysoned or Pacquio'd when you can pay Haymon 1/3rd and get much more in your pocket.

I heard some rumors last year that said he might be launching his own online subscription website. The UFC and WWE tried that I dont think its worked out too well for either

A couple of things: 1. Put the networks at a bidding war 2. Put the promoters at a bidding war for fights I like the idea.

I think he is trying to eliminate all promotional outfits. As a manager, he is looking to maximize money for he and his clients. By setting things up the way he is, he is virtually eliminating the need for his fighters to pay any promotional fees. TV commercials, social media and multiple TV platforms like NBC and ESPN. Schaeffer and all the ex GBP employees will likely join in. Why does a fighter need a promoter? I think he is also trying to make things hard for HBO since they refused to work with him. Promoters are a joke. Think about it. Even with HBO/Showtime who is doing all the leg work in promoting/marketing? Sure as **** isnt Arum. Sure isnt DLH. Haymon managing all these boxers with networks doing the leg work and someone like Schaeffer on the payroll as a middle man and voice of the company would be more profitable for boxers and cut out a lot of bull****.

I think he is trying to eliminate all promotional outfits. As a manager, he is looking to maximize money for he and his clients. By setting things up the way he is, he is virtually eliminating the need for his fighters to pay any promotional fees. TV commercials, social media and multiple TV platforms like NBC and ESPN. Schaeffer and all the ex GBP employees will likely join in. Why does a fighter need a promoter? I think he is also trying to make things hard for HBO since they refused to work with him.

seems like Haymon is doing a trial period with various networks, if the ratings sore the demand and bidding war will ensue and he could wind up with the highest bidder of the different networks.