Diaz and Garcia punched with Khan and threw bombs with their eyes closed and got hit a lot doing it, Floyd ain't doing that and Khan leaves himself open a lot less. Peterson just charged Khan head first with steroid super Human strength and stamina and still won 3 rounds max.
The guys who have boxed Khan on the outside and let him fight at his own pace which is Floyds style have lost every round.
Diaz and Garcia punched with Khan and threw bombs with their eyes closed and got hit a lot doing it, Floyd ain't doing that and Khan leaves himself open a lot less. Peterson just charged Khan head first with steroid super Human strength and stamina and still won 3 rounds max.
The guys who have boxed Khan on the outside and let him fight at his own pace which is Floyds style have lost every round.
A post so nice, he posted twice :pat:
"September" meaning he still thinks he is fighting Klitschko??
I guess so. He actually sent me a text this AM responding to my missed call last night. Pretty cool, and he is doing great PR - dude will have a conversation with you on the phone.
http://imgur.com/RO2wAWx
Proof of the text I received this AM
#LETSGOCHAMP
http://imgur.com/RO2wAWx
he spiraled from tasting defeat. It's really too bad, he's what you call "washed up"
Nice avi bro, you must work out...
I would recommend working out more and then change your avi
pac is on video saying he will take the test. where is Arum? Why won't he allow the fight?
:bigeyes:
FYP and both have said they want the fight...But Mr. "I lied today, but am telling the truth today" keeps playing around...He knows the outcome, and doesn't wants the keep making money the easy way-by having MP fighting bull**** fights...He will make a ton of money by getting this fight on, but he would rather keep Manny going with easy fights so he can schedule the next one and make even more money...
Just take the tests, MP has agreed and PBF said he is ready...But that greedy bastard Arum out and the fight would have been made long ago
not just that...the footwork was good , it was just that he was scared to get hit like floyd always do....he ran like floyd usually do..he is a big talker like floyd...haye and floyd are cut from the same cloth, all tough talk...
Nice post...Floyd ran all over the ring against SSM
Come the **** on...Watch the fights, and take the balls out of your mouth:bottle:
people may say doing the dump is a good business/$ move...more money...
but to some people, it is like turning your back to someone you have long been associated with.....
or was everything an illusion??
Why not? Floyd and ODLH did...And they are making much more money now, and props to them for that...
These guys are putting their lives on the line and training their asses off...
And here we have Arum taking damn near 30% of Paq's cut...Bob is making his money, and he is very smart about it...But he isn't the one getting punched in the face...
He is leaching everything he can off of his cash cow's, he doesn't care about them...He cares about his bank account...He sets up fights IN HOUSE so he can get all the money he can...
Manny should break away and agree to the Mayweather demands (like him and his trainer have said they would)
MP Promotions, Mayweather Promotions, and Golden Boy Promotions...
The fighters get what they deserve for doing what the do, putting their lives on the line...GBP can take care of promoting everything, and get a nice cut of the total revenue...
The fighters get what they deserve for putting their lives on the line, and no one taking almost 30% of their purse...
The fighters have to pay their trainers, their team and a **** load of other expenses...Without some SCUM promoter taking 30% of their purse, they will be able to get the $$$ that the deserve and still be able to pay everyone in the camp...Take 30% of say (for ****s and giggles) 1 million...Thats 300k for promoter, and 700k for the fighter...After he gets done paying everyone in camp he makes nothing near what is advertised...The ones that fight deserve the cash...The promoters will make their money, and a lot of it...
I GUARANTEE that Bob Arum wouldn't step in the ring to fight someone with 27% of his purse being taken from him...
I could care less about how much each fight makes, it doesn't affect me at all...They make their money, great for them-we get to see the fight that everyone has been talking about for years...
If it is true that Mannys contract is up, that would be positive for us fight fans...Everyone knows (or should know) it is Arum that is trying to avoid staging the fight...
Mayweather Promotions works with Golden Boy...If Mannys contract is up, it would be wise to work with (not sign with) Golden Boy to get the fight made...
Manny Pacquiao Promotions and Mayweather Promotions with cooperation from Golden Boy Promotions...
Let GBP take over all the promoting of the fight, getting the press conferences together, and all the fine details to get things rolling...They get their cut of the $$$ to stage the biggest fight of the decade, the fight that everyone (although we are all getting tired of the bull****) wants to see...
Both fighters get the money they should, without Arum trying to leach every possible penny for the fight to add to his bank account...
Manny and Floyds promotional companies would not be able to stage a fight this big by themselves...We all know Arum would rather stage Paq with another stiff so he can make his millions...Add GBP to Manny and Floyds promotional companies, let them take care of promotions...
win\win\win by all parties
Manny gets much more money than he ever has since he has been with Bob Ascum
Floyd gets his usual (much more actually), which is much more than fighters that are not running their own promotion
Split it 50\50, take the tests, and lets get this fight on...
That is the only way, and the best way for both fighters IMO...
As long as Arum is involved, the fight won't happen...He already has fighters lined up to face Manny after the JMM fight (ie. Bradley, Mike Jones, and who knows who else)
Take Arum out of the picture and the fight is made...Let GBP take care of the promotions and buildup, and we have a fight...
Both fighters are ready to go, now that dinosaur needs to visit the rest of his kind and become extinct...
:boxing:
I think the point he was trying to make was "Why would Arum lie about how much Manny was making, 20 mil but really making 6 mill"
Just that simple fact to me lets me know not to believe a word Arum says about ANYTHING!
Arum upsells EVERYTHING, so how am I to trust what he says about why Floyd and Manny have/are not fighting.
Posted this in another forum...
I see floyd, I see Paq, I see Arum comments...So copy\paste below
I could care less about how much each fight makes, it doesn't affect me at all...They make their money, great for them-we get to see the fight that everyone has been talking about for years...
If it is true that Mannys contract is up, that would be positive for us fight fans...Everyone knows (or should know) it is Arum that is trying to avoid staging the fight...
Mayweather Promotions works with Golden Boy...If Mannys contract is up, it would be wise to work with (not sign with) Golden Boy to get the fight made...
Manny Pacquiao Promotions and Mayweather Promotions with cooperation from Golden Boy Promotions...
Let GBP take over all the promoting of the fight, getting the press conferences together, and all the fine details to get things rolling...They get their cut of the $$$ to stage the biggest fight of the decade, the fight that everyone (although we are all getting tired of the bull****) wants to see...
Both fighters get the money they should, without Arum trying to leach every possible penny for the fight to add to his bank account...
Manny and Floyds promotional companies would not be able to stage a fight this big by themselves...We all know Arum would rather stage Paq with another stiff so he can make his millions...Add GBP to Manny and Floyds promotional companies, let them take care of promotions...
win\win\win by all parties
Manny gets much more money than he ever has since he has been with Bob Ascum
Floyd gets his usual (much more actually), which is much more than fighters that are not running their own promotion
Split it 50\50, take the tests, and lets get this fight on...
That is the only way, and the best way for both fighters IMO...
As long as Arum is involved, the fight won't happen...He already has fighters lined up to face Manny after the JMM fight (ie. Bradley, Mike Jones, and who knows who else)
Take Arum out of the picture and the fight is made...Let GBP take care of the promotions and buildup, and we have a fight...
Both fighters are ready to go, now that dinosaur needs to visit the rest of his kind and become extinct...
first of all, shane is a roid user...he did'nt have achioce but to take the test....ortiz has no leverage to refuse either....again, that extra test aint necessary, it is just a bullsh1t demand by floyd to originally smear on pacs rep.....thats pu$$y sh1t right there....
the bullsh1t test is what prevented the fight from happening, why not just drop the BS test, and fight under the commsiion testing like EVRYONE ELSE?.......fukk getting around commision rules man..floyd aint above the rules mofo...
Both agreed to take the tests...Arum is the one in charge and won't allow it...
And if you are questioning the testing, SSM told Floyd "have him take the tests"
If you do some research, you will see it...
I'm not saying PAQ is, or isn't using...But if he isn't? Why not take the test?
+1
The Sweet Science...This isn't a street brawl, its an art...
And for the record...I can't wait to see the fight (if it happens)...Its intriguing, a volume puncher with great movement and angle against a defensive minded counter puncher with great movement and angles...Styles make fights, and I'm interested to see Roach's game plan...But also interested in seeing which style Floyd decides to fight...
Being realistic, I see Paq coming out doing his normal for the first 2 or 3 rounds with May moving to figure him out (or as some may call it "running")...I feel Floyd will figure out his movements and be patient, and in late round 2, or early 3 he will begin countering and picking Manny apart...
I think May will use more of the defense he used in the Mosley match instead of the Philly Shell\shoulder roll to counteract the southpaw...He will cover up when the flurries come but will be able to counter much quicker and much more willing than Clottey...
A draw, as impossible as it may seem to most, would be the perfect situation for me personally...Then we could see who could really adjust for a MEGAMEGA fight...That would be the best situation for boxing to bring in more fans before these to warriors ride into the sunset...
one, floyd aint the most exciting ighter in the sport, far from it....second , he always turns down fight, fans wanna see the most...so yeah, he is bad for boxing!...boxers are suppose to be warrirors not bitchass divas!
....I thought that the point of the The Sweet Science was to "hit and not be hit"...As humans we love seeing the warriors go bang, bring blood, and knock people the f*ck out...I will admit that...BUT, the name of the game isn't "go in and tear peoples heads off" as much as we would all love it...The name of the game is Boxing, and it is an art...An art in which the object is to hit someone else (and admittedly-for the fans pleasure, make them bleed and then sleep) and not be hit...I enjoy watching both May and Paq fight, I find both exciting in different ways...Of course there is pleasure in seeing Paq and his never ending punches, but there is just as much pleasure in seeing Floyd paint his canvas...Thats just my opinion, because stepping into the ring with someone else wanting to hurt you makes you a warrior...Some do not handle it as well as others, but neither Floyd or Manny sit down on the stool and say No Mas-I believe that makes them warriors, even though there may be controversy-they dont bitch out and quit...They go until the end...Just my thoughts :boxing:
Im sorry but I just want to know if anyone knows the name of this special PED that Pac is using.. Every drug has a name..
Why dont experts at USDA, NSAC, or they guys at OST know the name...
So this special PED that Pac is using can only be found in the blood and 14 days is enough time for Pac to use it then flush it out before his next test..?
Is that what this dude Conte is stating.. This special drug is Urine Proof and able to be cleansed out in a short period...
If this is the case, then whats the name of the PED Pac is using? Im sure experts should know this already.....
Conte sure should know what Pac is using, since he is a PED expert, rather then throwing out speculations..
Dont tell me Ariza and Roach mixed up some special Urine free PED mix that these experts dont know of..
Im sure if Pac is using it then someone else out in the world is using it too so it has to have a name... DONT YOU THINK..
Posted this earlier from ESPN...
Here is some info on how cyclists beat drug tests...Some pretty insane measures they take not to get caught...Just thought it was interesting info about PEDS
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cyclin...ory?id=5222488
Here's a small piece of it, these guys can flush their systems in less than a day...
"Ashenden recently completed a study in which he injected subjects intravenously twice weekly with microdoses of EPO over a period of three months, then ran their blood values through the biological passport software. "Not one of them failed," he said.
Catlin said Landis' account matches anecdotal accounts he has heard through the years, "although I've never had it described as vividly," he said.
Catlin said the program required "fairly sophisticated knowledge," and agreed with Ashenden that athletes may have had more confidence in their ability to beat the tests than was warranted. "They'll take those risks because the rewards are so handsome," said Catlin, who currently oversees an independent testing program for two U.S.-based teams, HTC-Columbia and Garmin-Transitions.
Both researchers said the only way to completely foil what Landis described would be to ensure that tests are truly unannounced -- or resort to more Draconian measures like 24-hour testing or regularly inspecting riders for needle marks. " is still the best thing we've got in terms of targeting athletes," said Ashenden, who added that steroid and human growth hormone markers are about to be included in the passport profiles.
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5222488
Here is some info on how cyclists beat drug tests...Some pretty insane measures they take not to get caught...Just thought it was interesting info about PEDS
Here's a small piece of it, these guys can flush their systems in less than a day...
"Ashenden recently completed a study in which he injected subjects intravenously twice weekly with microdoses of EPO over a period of three months, then ran their blood values through the biological passport software. "Not one of them failed," he said.
Catlin said Landis' account matches anecdotal accounts he has heard through the years, "although I've never had it described as vividly," he said.
Catlin said the program required "fairly sophisticated knowledge," and agreed with Ashenden that athletes may have had more confidence in their ability to beat the tests than was warranted. "They'll take those risks because the rewards are so handsome," said Catlin, who currently oversees an independent testing program for two U.S.-based teams, HTC-Columbia and Garmin-Transitions.
Both researchers said the only way to completely foil what Landis described would be to ensure that tests are truly unannounced -- or resort to more Draconian measures like 24-hour testing or regularly inspecting riders for needle marks. " is still the best thing we've got in terms of targeting athletes," said Ashenden, who added that steroid and human growth hormone markers are about to be included in the passport profiles.
With proper training Kimbo could possibly be a great boxer. He definitley has the power and heart.
Curious how that power is after putting 10 oz gloves on his hands...Alot of his street fights he cut the hell out of his opponent because his knuckles are like razors...
honestly he shouldve came to boxing first. We gon see what he made off this is his last chance
A decent boxer will kill the guy...
Imagine one of the Klit bros poppin that jab out at him for -12 rounds...
If he would have trained in boxing he could have potential, but street fighting is a totally different animal...
Personally, I like to see the guy go at it and have watched him for quite some time...And When he fights, I will be watching...But boxing, I don't think he will do very well...Most of these guys know how to throw a real jab, and know how to properly punch...They have worked at this art for years...Bring a PURE street fighter into the picture?? I don't see him faring very well, but I can't wait to see him give the Sweet Science a go...
UFC heavyweights have to way in at 265 or less...
No way in hell Toney is at 290...
As dumb as he can be at times, he is smart enough to realize he needs to be agile enough to defend the takedown attempts...If he weighs anything over 230 he won't be worth a damn...IMO
If only he were committed enough to stay in shape, his career would have turned out much different than it has...
In all honesty, i feel that Jermain Taylor really lost to:
1)Hopkins I
2)Hopkins II
3)Winky Wright
4)Kassim Ouma
5)Froch
6)Abraham
7)Spinks
8)Pavlik
I feel that HBO was trying to build Taylor to be something great, but he couldnt hold up to the creation. I do think he beat Lacy but everyone else was ROBBED!
Except the people that actually beat him...
Thats interesting, he never won a fight?? AT ALL???
I could swear that Pavlik KHTFO
Che Guevara, the inspector responsible for supervising Margarito's hand wrapping, testified that he had never seen that sort of pad used before, apparently missing it being slipped into the initial wrap before Richardson's objections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara
He was scheduled to fight Cotto, and he DID fight him in 2006 (when PM was 21-0)...
Pretty much everyone here realizes PM is featherfisted and has been washed up for awhile now...
So what are you getting at? ��