Why cant the PED experts name this special PED.

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Im sorry but I just want to know if anyone knows the name of this special PED that Pac is using.. Every drug has a name.. Why dont experts at USDA, NSAC, or they guys at OST know the name... So this special PED that Pac is using can only be found in the blood and 14 days is enough time for Pac to use it then flush it out before his next test..? Is that what this dude Conte is stating.. This special drug is Urine Proof and able to be cleansed out in a short period... If this is the case, then whats the name of the PED Pac is using? Im sure experts should know this already..... Conte sure should know what Pac is using, since he is a PED expert, rather then throwing out speculations.. Dont tell me Ariza and Roach mixed up some special Urine free PED mix that these experts dont know of.. Im sure if Pac is using it then someone else out in the world is using it too so it has to have a name... DONT YOU THINK.. Posted this earlier from ESPN... Here is some info on how cyclists beat drug tests...Some pretty insane measures they take not to get caught...Just thought it was interesting info about PEDS http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cyclin...ory?id=5222488 Here's a small piece of it, these guys can flush their systems in less than a day... "Ashenden recently completed a study in which he injected subjects intravenously twice weekly with microdoses of EPO over a period of three months, then ran their blood values through the biological passport software. "Not one of them failed," he said. Catlin said Landis' account matches anecdotal accounts he has heard through the years, "although I've never had it described as vividly," he said. Catlin said the program required "fairly sophisticated knowledge," and agreed with Ashenden that athletes may have had more confidence in their ability to beat the tests than was warranted. "They'll take those risks because the rewards are so handsome," said Catlin, who currently oversees an independent testing program for two U.S.-based teams, HTC-Columbia and Garmin-Transitions. Both researchers said the only way to completely foil what Landis described would be to ensure that tests are truly unannounced -- or resort to more Draconian measures like 24-hour testing or regularly inspecting riders for needle marks. " is still the best thing we've got in terms of targeting athletes," said Ashenden, who added that steroid and human growth hormone markers are about to be included in the passport profiles.

LOLz, now who lets the dogs out... greyhounds????? drugs enhancing greyhound performance GPED?, thats ****ing hilarious, you probably a member of gorilladogs, gorilla greyhounds, ****ing a, you were this talking like an expert on performance enhancing drugs for boxers when all the while youre really training dogs for racing, bwahahaha. sig worthy, What a dickhead , its all the same stuff lol and 90% of all illegal gym drugs come via veterinary lines , do you know what a generic drug is lol , you would not know if your ass was on fire lol ,,, Pacfarts are soooooo fuken real world dumb .

Im sorry but I just want to know if anyone knows the name of this special PED that Pac is using.. Every drug has a name.. Why dont experts at USDA, NSAC, or they guys at OST know the name... So this special PED that Pac is using can only be found in the blood and 14 days is enough time for Pac to use it then flush it out before his next test..? Is that what this dude Conte is stating.. This special drug is Urine Proof and able to be cleansed out in a short period... If this is the case, then whats the name of the PED Pac is using? Im sure experts should know this already..... Conte sure should know what Pac is using, since he is a PED expert, rather then throwing out speculations.. Dont tell me Ariza and Roach mixed up some special Urine free PED mix that these experts dont know of.. Im sure if Pac is using it then someone else out in the world is using it too so it has to have a name... DONT YOU THINK.. You shouldnt ask the experts, the mayweather's have all the answer. You should consult with them.

Thanks for that info.. I was hoping to get some serious logic in this discussion and it seems that we have concluded that.. The PED Pac is using is ONLY blood detectable, can be flushed out in a few days, does not increase body mass and size (cause thats what HGH does).. So far from what previous posters have stated, what ever PED Pac is on must be something special and not heard of as of yet.. Just curious to why only Team Pac know of this and not other experts.. Thats what surprises me in this discussion with these others on here..? Just to let u know, there are MANY anabolics that do many different things. Some more suited to adding strength, some good for both. Someone could EASILY use an anabolic that is suited to adding strength without gaining much size. HGH is included in this, as it DOES NOT add alot of mass when used alone. Its most anabolic when used along with AS and insulin(also IGF1-L3).

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Youve been blown out the water sonny and thats you big comeback , go read your comics because its painfully obvious you dont know what your talking about when it comes to PEDS and what can be used and what some of this stuff does , do you know some tranquilizers in tiny amounts can make a racehorse run untill he has a heart attack , Ive trained Greyhounds for many years believe me there is lots of drugs that will enhance performance . LOLz, now who lets the dogs out... greyhounds????? drugs enhancing greyhound performance GPED?, thats ****ing hilarious, you probably a member of gorilladogs, gorilla greyhounds, ****ing a, you were this talking like an expert on performance enhancing drugs for boxers when all the while youre really training dogs for racing, bwahahaha. sig worthy,

how is feefiflofum not banned.............???? he was spouting nothing but racist posts only a few days ago............

wtf do u know .. wat knowledge do u possess on how the drug testers make a drug bust.. man r u in some movie or wat that u trying to imply blood test will somehow revealed a drug that u "DEVELOP" which ur obvious dumbass couldnt...that shit is impossible with today's drug technology.. it would be nice though but it's not possible as of this moment u dumb maafaka fyi, ever heard of drug raids done on lance armstrong or on the bikers in tour de france?? THATS ONE WAY THEY GET POSSESSION OF NEW PEDS DEVELOPED BY PED ENGINEERS..do u think theyd do this if they could just detect unknown peds through blood test.. do u think they raid to look like rambo or wat? i bet ud think that cus from the way u speak and the fantastical stuff u imply, its not too far off... other way of catching new peds would be if someone who's on the new ped could turn himself in out of guilt or someone who knows someone on it could snitch..LIKE THE COACH WHO SNITCH THAT HIS PLAYERS WERE ON THE "CLEAR" or maybe a ped engineer developed a concious etc.... POINT IS, YOU CANT DETECT NEW PEDS OUT OF THE TEST TODAY.. especially blood test.. get that in ur head, its not an opinion, its a fact look it up DUMB MAFAAKKA u think that i literally thought i could create a new drug to cure a disease tomarrow? i was making an informal analogy. u can change "i" to anyone else in the world....... i am laughing because you have to live your life in this state. people can spell out arguments or state facts clearly and logically and you will still find a way to misunderstand.....u can call me stupid, but you are really, technically and scientifically retarded to some degree in some capacity. your brain is not fully formed or soemwhat damaged.:omfg: u are so ****ing dumb that u forget why u are arguing and just argue! exactly, a drug test wouldnt reveal a new drug that i just developed...just like a new ped someone invented wouldnt be able to be detected right away either. not without knowing about it!.......so u are agreeing with my example, unknowingly, and calling me stupid because you took somwthing out of context....

Good thread. Pacman is not on PED, I bet all my money on it. If he was he would of got caught before the Morales fight where there was a surprise blood test 2days before the fight. The thing is you are absolutely correct, that this drug that Flomos believe Manny is taking. If it was available to him, likely everyone else in boxing would be using it as well. Manny is not that special that he has access to some super PED noone can get. End of the day. This PED nonsense came about because some selfish boxer name Floyd was just scared that he was fighting somebody who could KO his ass.

stfu wat do u know about the drugs that show up in blood nothing, you have no knowledge thats why when you try to make a point, you only know what i highlighted and you leave it at that and then u have the audacity to speculate base on that little ass knowledge u possess? man stfu you have no knowledge whatsoever to fully analyze and interpret how the drug testing should proceed... dumb maafaka first of all u didnt understand my post. i wasnt claiming to be a ped expert, genius. all i did was highlight ignorance and inconsitancy in own little retarded argument, yes, i am not a chemist u fcking retard. i dont pretend to be, and contradict and embarass myself in the proccess. that is your role b!tch. i know that your argument is flawed and illogical. thats what i am saying. and you calling me dumb is funny.:tool:

Im sure their are but til this day we dont know the name of this special PED that can be cleansed out in a 14day window and can only be detected in blood.. It has to have a name dont you think? And also, its kinda funny that only Pacquiao is a known user of this drug.. Experts should of pointed the finger to the drug name by now dont you think? trying to make an argument that pac isnt on roids through the attempted use of logic? there are drugs that show up in blood and not urine. why couldnt the evidence of ped use show up in other areas of the body, and not urine and blood? why couldnt a ped be perfectly synthesized within the body after 14 days? why do you deny the possibiltiy that a ped exists that cannot be tested for, or no funtional test currently exists for? if i create a new drug tomarrow that cures parkinsons, instantly everyone knows everything about that drug and how to measure(detect) levels of that drug in the body? not if i dont tell them. and ped engineers obviously have an interest in revealing this info to as few people as possible. the fact isnt that pac is on steroids. the fact is that any pro athlete can conceivably be on peds without us knowing.

umm dude, dont get the impression that blood test was the downfall of balco, you can look that shit up for yourself but ill tell you, some athlete's coach got mad and had possesion of the "CLEAR" and he snitch on balco when he call up the CALIFORNIA ADA and provided the sample allegedly manufactured and supplied by balco, they gave the sample to whats his name doctor and he develop A URINEEEEEE TEST!!!!! which could detect it, it was only through the URINEEEE TEST!!!!! did they catch the balco users ,, of course they also raided the lab and got wind of "BALCO'S" client..marion jones, mosley, montogomery, bonds etc..... so they got expose bigtime.. only an ignorant black maafaka acts like whooa.. BLOOOD TEST exposed balco cus u know urine was there and like.. blood just came along and then voila they got exposed.. LOGIC lmao... this is a dumb black flomo logic, they dont live in real life and know what EXACTLY HAPPEN Thanks for that info.. I was hoping to get some serious logic in this discussion and it seems that we have concluded that.. The PED Pac is using is ONLY blood detectable, can be flushed out in a few days, does not increase body mass and size (cause thats what HGH does).. So far from what previous posters have stated, what ever PED Pac is on must be something special and not heard of as of yet.. Just curious to why only Team Pac know of this and not other experts.. Thats what surprises me in this discussion with these others on here..?

But according to USADA 18 days prior to the fight they can concur if you are clean or not.

I just got what you are saying how many people knew about balco though? not many right it could be the same thing Ok, and I am gonna be open minded and say, their could be a possibility that we havent heard of this special PED manufacturer yet as with Balco, which with what your stating it can be possible.. So overall, Pac and only Pacman is suspect of using a new type of PED that is only blood detectable, able to be flushed out in a few days, does not increase body mass and size.. This is the speculation that we have concluded..

Dont bother man.. For some reason.. they have Floyd googles on that make them see shit thats not really there.... Like Pac HGH gut.., bigger heads and hands.. The other dude stated an increase in head size.. So I wanted to post up previous pics up Pac and compare his head to todays.. Looks the same size to me.. and I didnt know the head was a type of muscle that can grow while the other parts of the body remain the same.. Who would want do that.. He said HGH increases head size...Hmmmm really..

Dont bother man.. For some reason.. they have Floyd googles on that make them see shit thats not really there.... Like Pac HGH gut.., bigger heads and hands.. ok explain how his reach decreased then? thank you have a nice evening

Ok, keeping this conversation professional now.. No one knew of the cream which until Balco.. Ok I got that.. So now Pac and his people might have some sort of PED that we dont know of is what your stating.. A PED that can not be detected in the Urine, able to be flushed out right away, and doesnt increase your body mass and size.. Pac and his people are the only ones that know of this? Seriously I just got what you are saying how many people knew about balco though? not many right it could be the same thing

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