Khan would outbox the **** outta Sugar. Khans range, reach, and speed would just be too much.
I still think Sugar is a far better fighter, but styles make fights. And Khan can beat many many great fighters, theoritically.
Khan would not outbox Shane at all.
Shane is faster, with more power and has the far superior chin. Khan would get knock the **** out by Shane because Shane hand speed is faster than khan and far better boxer than khan.
Khan is not that great of a boxer because if he was he would not get knock the fucj out as many time as he have. Khan has no advantage over Shane.
Name floyds best win?
Castillo
Canelo
Corrales
Hatton
Prime zab Judah
Oscar
Marquez(no version of marquez can beat Floyd because Floyd is a match nightmare to him)
Cotto
Hernandez
Robert Garcia
I forgot how sensitive people are on here about Pac. Here you go :bottle:
Why bring up pacquaio. Won't we bring up every boxer and ask them why they don't move up all the way up to heavyweight and fight vitali and wlad. According to you that we should just say **** weight division and just let pacquaio move up.
**** why pacquaio can't move up and fight cotto. **** if we going to fault pacquaio than we should ask cotto and floyd to move up and fight Andre ward and Carl froch. **** Marquez should move up in weight and be a fat slob and fight GGG at 160.
Also its not people defending pacquaio. Its that you make a dumbass thread lowered everybody's IQ by spreading your stupidity.
I understand what you are saying, but there are others who are worse. At least Garcia fought Khan and Matthysse. Keith Thurman and Deontay Wilder have him beat by a mile. With the exception of Soto-Karass, neither Thurman nor Wilder have fought anyone with a pulse.
Also, one boxing fan's idea of a cherrypick is another's idea of an all-time great schedule. In his last five fights, Floyd Mayweather has fought Maidana, Alvarez, Guerrero, Cotto and Victor Ortiz. Some of the clowns on this site call that a cherrypicked schedule even though all of them except Guerrerro held world championship belts at the time. Yet those same clowns would call Bradley, Brandon Rios, JMM, Bradley and JMM an all-time great schedule.
Jmm and Bradley are greater than everybody on Floyd's list. Victor Ortiz is by far worst than Rios.
Guerrero and Maidana both ducked Bradley. Maidana was basically a cherry pick that went wrong.
Maidana got schooled by one eye Erik morrales, kotelnik, Devon Alexander and some how someway he won 5 rounds against Floyd
A better example of pacquaio's ****ty opponent picking run was clottey, Mosley corpse and margarito, Marquez 3(cherry pick that went wrong),
Both Floyd and pacquaoi ran out of opponents at 147 and result in ****ty fights. They had to wait until the new generation of 147 fighters start blossoming or move up in weight. Remember 147 when Floyd and pacquaio was in their prime was ranned by cotto, margarito, Paul Williams, clottey, pacquaio and Floyd.
Why move up at 160 where there are no money fight outside of cotto. GGG is the other credible opponent at 160. 160 is actually one of the weakest division.
154 is deeper and canelo can stay there and fight far superior opponent.
If anything why GGG is fighting at 160 when everyone at 168 is calling him out
Why didn't he honour his Official Poll then? He atleast spent a Week Promoting it all over the social media.
Because the boxing world felt khan didn't deserve a fight with Floyd especially when he did absolutely nothing after his lost against Garcia.
Add the fact boxing felt that poll was rigged.
Add the fact he is not fighting in September due to religious belief and Floyd always fight in September then khan will miss his chance with Floyd. Floyd has better option out there that will bring in way more money and far more deserving for a shot. Tell me does khan deserve a shot over pacquaio, cotto, Garcia, canelo, Bradley.
If Floyd goes out and fight cotto, Bradley, pacquaio or canelo over khan, would that considered a duck.
**** I can't wait till khan get knocked out by another bum so his tards stop posting all this floyd ducking khan.
Floyd ducked brook. Brook is a cherry pick for GGG. Equals the standards for GGG are set much higher than floyd.
GGG is more highly rated than Floyd and is held in higher regard and esteem
floyd didnt duck brook because after his fight Pacquaio everyone else at 147 does not matter since he is retired. 147 is also floyd's 4th weight class. Brook would do nothing for floyd legacy at all. GGG is only fighting at his first weightclass and too ***** to move up. Floyd has fought many top ten p4p fighter. GGG has fought none.
GGG made brook jump 2 weight class to fight him. the sad part is that brook would be GGG biggest test while brook would be in the bottom of floyd's resume.
Broner is a flat foot fighter who cant fight from his back foot. Add the fact he has no head movement and he is a ****ing idiot in the ring. Pacquaio is going to school him and maybe knock his ass out.
The best should compete against the best. That is the motto of every sport. If Mr. Cotto is truly the Lineal Middleweight champion then he should fight GGG and not hold the belt hostage like Martinez did. He doesn't have to fight GGG, he can just hand him the title for all i care.
And how GGG is the best when he has a ****ty resume.
Cotto is trying to fight canelo and Floyd which is far better for his career than fighting GGG.
Cotto will get no credit for beating GGG especially with GGG ****ty resume. All people will say is that GGG is hypejob and fought nothing but bums. Its basically high risk low reward. Then you have ward calling GGG out but GGG is ducking him while calling out Floyd. **** if GGG cares about money fight while getting credit then won't he fight froch who is big money fight at 168.
These GGG fans want cotto to fight him while everybody else in the world want a cotto vs canelo or Floyd vs cotto.
Cotto earn his right to have many option that is far superior to fighting GGG. After he fights Canelo or Floyd then we can ask for GGG vs cotto. **** if GGG want the fame and respect then he should try to go up in weight and call out froch or ward. Right now GGG has no significant win. He is basically a nobody who has a ****ty resume and makes excuses that nobody wants to fight him.
So cotto who fought Shane, floyd, pacquaio, margarito, is not a true fighter but yet GGG who has fought nothing but bums and has been pro for 10 years .
And it's funny people saying cotto is ducking GGG when cotto has better options for his legacy like canelo (which is his next fight) or trying to get a rematch with floyd.
Notice GGG only calls out Froch, Floyd, Cotto and canelo. You know fighters who are known draws from 147-168. It's the main reason why GGG is not fighting Ward or Lara.
Shawn Porter is ordinary as f1ck. Brook is boxing his ears off. I don't give a **** what happens now, I've seen enough.
And both fighter would lose against pacquaio, Floyd, Marquez and bradley
Timothy Bradley vs Joel Casamayor - It's like this fight never existed. People say that Bradley turned down Khan to face Pacquaio and conveniently leave out that what he actually did was sit on the sidelines for months and then face a shot to sh1t, drug addled Casamayor. All before luckily getting the Pacquaio fight a year after he initially refused to fight Khan.
Adonis Stevenson vs Forfarna - Similar situation. The Haymon fantards will claim Stevenson turned down Kovalev to face Hopkins, leaving out this joke fight and the fact that he's not even facing Hopkins now :lol1:
Bradley had trouble with a promoter and got out of his contract and signed with top rank.
Khan is hated because he always act like a spoiled entitled Lil *****. Add that he is a big ass disappointment. I used to like khan and then he pull all off this ducking every threat on 147 bull**** and try to talk his way to a Floyd or pacquaio fight without earning. He just want that payday and his stupid fan are too stupid to see that. If he really want that Floyd fight that he need to either beat Bradley or garcia
and make himself relevant again. That is his problem.
So Timothy Bradley re-signing to Top Rank was a huge topic a while ago, many debated that Timothy Bradley was doing what was best for his family, money-wise.
So lets discuss this, clearly this Top Rank deal does not make his legacy better.
When he returns, so does beating Rios, Ruslan, Jessie Vargas do anything to raise his legacy?
Because as a Bradley fan, I feel that he could have cleaned our Golden boys ranks
He easily could have beaten
Broner
Danny Garcia
Shawn Porter
Thurman
Berto
Matthyse
Maidana
I mean, next to Mayweather, Bradley would be almost unstoppable against Haymon and Goldenboy fighters.
None of those fighters would improve his legacy especially over pacquaio and Marquez. Outside of Garcia that whole list is full of c level fighters or hype jobs who has no great win. The only fight Bradley could fight that would improve his legacy is floyd .
And people laugh about Bradley signing with arum. Dude fought pacquaio twice and fought Marquez after he knocked pacquaio out. He made 4 millions against Marquez.
Its not that Khan is better than Floyds last 10 opponents. But the style match up is interesting.
Khan has the energy, speed and punch output to trouble Floyd. But Khans too open and Floyd is too sharp.
Lmao @ energy
Khan has stamina issue. Add his ****ty as chin and floyd accuracy that khan would get knocked the **** out against floyd. That is how bad that dude chin is. Khan can't fight in the inside and strickly tries to fight outside.
Because nobody really care about boxing in the u.s outside of the Latino(Mexican, Rican). **** we know pacquaio because of his battle with Morrales, Marquez, Barrera and Oscar. It's the main reason why pacquaio and Floyd were draw since they beat many Mexican and Rican fighters. It's also the reason why all these heavier division don't draw down here.
Canelo is the challenger to Golovkin's titles, so why is his name first?
This "A-side" nonsense is disrespectful to boxing and its traditions.
And please don't say he's the lineal champ because that is an absolute joke in this case considering he didn't even beat a middleweight to win (or defend) the title, fought at 155lbs catchweight each time and then vacated his actual world title and moved to another weight class.
Because the only reason GGG wants Canelo is for the $$$. Canelo knows this. Notice that everybody is calling out Canelo even though he isn't the champ.
You don't know **** about Salido. Dude has fought everyone and has had success.
So tell me how Gamboa look far superior against a prime salido while a past prime salido beat lomenchenko. What that fight showed me is that lomenchenko will struggle against anybody who can cut the ring off fight him inside. Which tells me he need to avoid Garcia at all cost.
I do know he's a LOT MORE FUN to watch. He's got defensive prowess but brings the offense, too. All around excellence.
You do know Floyd from 130-140 was the same way. Actually successful fighters who moves up in hiigher weight class starts getting more defensive especially when they can't carry their power.
I swear it's like nobody ever watched Floyd when he was at 130 and 135.
Basically this fight is a measuring stick on how good GGG really is. This is a huge step up fight for him and to see if the hype is real. If this fight is competitive then he got expose. If he dominated then it's most likey he is the real deal and he need to hurry up and knock out Canelo to end his hype and then move up. Jacab is not great but he is a very good test for GGG. We all know Canelo is very beatable judging his fight with Floyd, Lara.
4 years later of this thread has been made.
Who would know back then that floyd would duck a career featherweight and accuse him of PEDS and when they finally agree that he rather go on vacation.
Yes duran was a career lightweight who was very competitive at the higher weight class. Duran was doing back then what pacquaio is doing now. And we all know floyd would accuse duran with peds and go on vacation.
I thought he would demand an immediate rematch to avenge the loss but remember its a business first
Pacquaio clearly won against Bradley and clearly got robbed while Marquez has a far bigger argument over Bradley in all 3 fights while bringing far more money. Marquez is the bigger risk. He is more skilled, powerful than Bradley. Bradley wouldnt even get a rematch if the judges didn't gift him a built and would be another fighter that lost to pacquaio.
I don't think it is acceptable and because of Pacquiao avoiding the rematch I have no problem giving Bradley the benefit of the doubt regarding his win.
Marquez vs pacquaio 3 was a lot closer than Bradley vs pacquaio.
how is pacquaio avoiding Bradley especially when Marquez is better, more skilled and has way more power. If it wasn't the ****ty judges pacquaio would have a dominating win and nobody would give pacquaio for whoop Bradley ass. I hate Marquez vs Pac 4, but that is because the only fight I want is Floyd. I don't want Bradley get another payday because the judges giftwrap his belt. He deserve no rematch. Add the fact that the fight was a snooze fest.
Pac has a few fights left and not in his prime anymore and has legacy cemented. The only thing he wants to prove is that he can beat both Marquez and Floyd.
Donaire is just another fraud ducking real opposition in Rigo and Mares.
Even if Donaire beats rigo we all know u won't give him credit due to rigo current resume. **** people are already discrediting his Montiel win and Montiel resume ****s on rigo's.
And we all know about the current feud with golden boy and top rank not working with another. Add the fact that mares style is made Donaire.
Add the fact that the race fight was considered biggest pay day in his career and it would be stupid to turn that fight down.
I think mares will actually give Donaire a fight. other than him. Nobody ****s with Donaire at 122. He is a class above the rest.
Moreno has no power so when he counter which mares doesn't hurt. That same bull rushing head down throwing punches will get him knock the **** out. Donaire is faster and has one punch knock out power.