Loma is scary good, better than Floyd

Spot on. But it's all of them. Their bitterness of Floyd's success clouds their judgement so much, that they just go way off topic. "Lomachenko is better than Floyd, he's surpassing him." *Gets proven wrong with accomplishments and resumes* "But SRL doe" "But where are the prime ATG's on Floyd's resume" Completely forgetting that this thread is about Lomachenko surpassing/being better than Mayweather and Lomachenko himself has no ATG's/HOF'ers prime or past prime. "But Ali..." "But Duran..." "Floyd's not better than those guys doe!" http://i66.tinypic.com/2e51jcj.jpg It's what he does then after I erased the Leonard argument he pulled out the Floyd is not TBE argument to justify the Leonard comparison. Once again another point that has nothing to do with Lomachenko surpassing Floyd. Eventually after refusing to follow him off topic for like the third or fourth time, I was told that I am salty or whatever. I guess that's how a clown admits defeat.

Floyd does what he does betterbthan anyone. I'm sure loma does what he dfies better than fgloyd

That's cool.... No one would argue that Floyd has a better resume than Leonard, it's pretty much factual that Leonard has the better names at their peak but what does Leonard's resume have to do with Lomachenko???? you go off on a tangent trying to sound like you have a point but you're rambling while adding nothing to this discussion. Typical Daggum. And lol @ you comparing GRJ to Floyd at 130...... just loooool Spot on. But it's all of them. Their bitterness of Floyd's success clouds their judgement so much, that they just go way off topic. "Lomachenko is better than Floyd, he's surpassing him." *Gets proven wrong with accomplishments and resumes* "But SRL doe" "But where are the prime ATG's on Floyd's resume" Completely forgetting that this thread is about Lomachenko surpassing/being better than Mayweather and Lomachenko himself has no ATG's/HOF'ers prime or past prime. "But Ali..." "But Duran..." "Floyd's not better than those guys doe!" http://i66.tinypic.com/2e51jcj.jpg

Lomachenko is exceptionally talented but can we see him vs a few different styles at least without pointing to his amateur record? I'm sorry but we've seen so many decent fighters already go through these same recycled one dimensional, upright, stiff, boxer-puncher types. He's going the right way and looks incredible but these sort of opponents are flattering him and would and do flatter any legit A/A-/B+/B sort of fighter, they're pretty much made for a guy with his style. Its like Manny when TR matched him with a long string of flat-footed brawlers, Manny is a legend but lets not pretend there was no genius matchmaking involved along the way. Lets say him vs a Jezreel Corrales, Barthelemy, Easter Jr

boxing skills? its all fantasy like floyd fans always say. they think floyd is the fantasy best and say dont be salty. i think loma is so you shouldnt be salty. floyd fans themselves said resume doesnt make floyd tbe so by their own logic i can say loma has surpassed him. hes the tbe dont be salty. you cant say anything because its opinion. just like floyd beign the best is your opinion. im not salty. if flyod had a better resume you could have something to back your point just like if loma had a better resume i coudl bak up my point. its just opinion dont be salty. i think loma would destroy floyd. he always struggled with speed against guys like judah, pac and even hoya. loma has never struggled with anyone like floyd so why would he now? cause you like floyd isnt a good answer. dont be salty. I couldn't care less if you think Loma destroys Floyd.... at no point did I argue against that point so I don't know why you're rambling about that, it's a fantasy matchup so you're free to make your pick regardless of anyone's opinion. You talking about Lomachenko surpassing Floyd is also fantasy, not because Lomachenko can't do it (he can) but because he hasn't done it yet. You're free to sh*t on Floyd's career all you want but it's dumb to try and praise someone's resume that is FACTUALLY worse than his. I don't know why you can't see this simple fact, no ones salty.... we're just pointing out the gaping holes in your logic.

I'm pretty sure that person said Floyd has faster hands on top of his boxing skills..... which both he and Loma have an abundance of. If someone says the difference in the fight between Mikey and Loma will be power then I'm certain they aren't just talking about Power alone but they are acknowledging that both guys have plenty of assets but they figure the power will decide the match. What does GRJ have other than hand speed that led you to make the comparison to Floyd??? You're the one missing the point. Whether you think Floyd is TBE or not, talking about SRL is pointless because that doesn't explain how Lomachenko is already surpassing Floyd like you said. You just ramble like you have a valid point but really you're not backing anything up. boxing skills? its all fantasy like floyd fans always say. they think floyd is the fantasy best and say dont be salty. i think loma is so you shouldnt be salty. floyd fans themselves said resume doesnt make floyd tbe so by their own logic i can say loma has surpassed him. hes the tbe dont be salty. you cant say anything because its opinion. just like floyd beign the best is your opinion. im not salty. if flyod had a better resume you could have something to back your point just like if loma had a better resume i coudl bak up my point. its just opinion dont be salty. i think loma would destroy floyd. he always struggled with speed against guys like judah, pac and even hoya. loma has never struggled with anyone like floyd so why would he now? cause you like floyd isnt a good answer. dont be salty.

Being out of shape is not an advantage. Canelo offered to weigh in at 152. Floyd didn't put a rehydration clause on his like he COULD have. Loma didn't fight Walters when he missed weight for Sosa because he was scared. ...by your logic. He wound up fighting Walters anyway....after he was sidelined for a year. Really brave. floyd went on and on about how pac drains fighters and he wants his opponents to be healthy....then he fought canelo at 152. he's full of sh-it. they still tried to make the loma-wlters fight but walters turned it down over money. pay attention. yes he hadnt fought for ayear and mosley hadnt fought for almost a year and a half. how brave of floyd to take on a 39 year old man off a long layoff.

Scary good, yes.. Better than Floyd? That still remains to be seen.

yes thats my whole point thank you. they call him the tbe based on fantasy so why cant people say loma is better based on fantasy? when you dont have a great resume to back it up its all just opinion. some people think floyd is better, some loma, some eric crumble. i was comparing leonard to floyd not loma you have to pay attention to what i was responding to no matter who i compared floyd to you would say lol. hes a slick boxer with fast hand speed and he gave loma zero problems. doesnt mean loma beats floyd but once again you have to pay attention to what i was responding to. someone said floyd had fast hands as a reason floyd would win. I'm pretty sure that person said Floyd has faster hands on top of his boxing skills..... which both he and Loma have an abundance of. If someone says the difference in the fight between Mikey and Loma will be power then I'm certain they aren't just talking about Power alone but they are acknowledging that both guys have plenty of assets but they figure the power will decide the match. What does GRJ have other than hand speed that led you to make the comparison to Floyd??? You're the one missing the point. Whether you think Floyd is TBE or not, talking about SRL is pointless because that doesn't explain how Lomachenko is already surpassing Floyd like you said. You just ramble like you have a valid point but really you're not backing anything up.

Well...YOU said he already surpassed Mayweather.:lol1: Which makes you a troll. Floyd was a World Champion at 21 What was Loma doing at that age?? its all fantasy remember? floyds greatness isnt based on resume his own fans admit that so based on fantasy loma is better. "skills pay the bills"-lomachenko

An out of shape Orlando Salido at that. out of shape? he didnt even try to make weight so he could have an advantage and weight matters as we know. for example floyd wouldnt dare figth canelo at 154 because he was scared. loma got in there with a guy who was cheating and he paid the price. floyd tries to cheat guys and you praise him. fanboy.

What are you talking about? He beat a ton of guys as good and better than those two. a ton? most the guys beat were faded. corrales and castillo sure but they were slow face first guys(the kind of style floyd fans think is crap) so how much credit should he get for that? russell and walters have styles floyd fans love but they aren't good wins because loma is figthing guys floyd never would? sad how jealousy makes them do mental gymanstics.

What ATG's has Loma fought???? :lol1: yes exactly. neither guy fought a prime atg so how can you say who is better? because floyd fought more faded fighters? ok i guess....but its all just fantasy. we will never know with floyd. loma still has a chance to do it.

What ATG's has Loma fought???? :lol1: He fought the legendary Orlando Salido and got f*cked up. F*ckin bum. :lol1:

That's cool.... No one would argue that Floyd has a better resume than Leonard, it's pretty much factual that Leonard has the better names at their peak but what does Leonard's resume have to do with Lomachenko???? you go off on a tangent trying to sound like you have a point but you're rambling while adding nothing to this discussion. Typical Daggum. And lol @ you comparing GRJ to Floyd at 130...... just loooool yes thats my whole point thank you. they call him the tbe based on fantasy so why cant people say loma is better based on fantasy? when you dont have a great resume to back it up its all just opinion. some people think floyd is better, some loma, some eric crumble. i was comparing leonard to floyd not loma you have to pay attention to what i was responding to no matter who i compared floyd to you would say lol. hes a slick boxer with fast hand speed and he gave loma zero problems. doesnt mean loma beats floyd but once again you have to pay attention to what i was responding to. someone said floyd had fast hands as a reason floyd would win.

Maybe Corrales, other than that, Floyd never dominated a prime World champ like Loma did to Russell and Walters. He barely faced any prime elite guys. What are you talking about? He beat a ton of guys as good and better than those two.

Seriously? It's a sick fight mate. Watch it. If you say you don't like it, then there is very, very, very little boxing you could ever like. More where this came from too. He's had some really good fights. One more fight definitely worth watching: That Mayweather/Corley fight was really a good one. Definitely worth a watch.

russell is the #1 fighter at 126 now. thats like saying jones win over hopkins wasnt that good just stop. floyds resume is overrated. when you are listing baldomir as an example of a great resume you lost that debate. a great resume is leonard fighting prime hearns, duran, benitez, kalule, and near prime hagler. its a shame boxing fans have such low standards now. when you talk about leonard you dont say well he would have beaten prime hearns, prime duran, prime benitez etc...you say HE DID BEAT THEM. with floyd unfortunately its the opposite or its look at this crappy guy named baldomir he beat aren't you impressed? no not really. floyd fans just have to deal with this. these are the ramifications for taking it easy and not challenging yourself. its easy to say oh you just hate floyd but you know there are legit criticisms of his resume that you cant explain away. its impressive to fight for so long and only have a couple gift decisiosn lik him but ill take leonards shorter more explosive career any day. That's cool.... No one would argue that Floyd has a better resume than Leonard, it's pretty much factual that Leonard has the better names at their peak but what does Leonard's resume have to do with Lomachenko???? you go off on a tangent trying to sound like you have a point but you're rambling while adding nothing to this discussion. Typical Daggum. And lol @ you comparing GRJ to Floyd at 130...... just loooool

Lomachenko has to be one of the most pure fighters in the game. Sosa was a worthy opponent but couldn't match the speed, angles and volume of punches coming from Loma. Very impressive performance.

I never really made it through an entire floyd fight (ZZzz) so I can't say for sure. At least I'm honest. Seriously? It's a sick fight mate. Watch it. If you say you don't like it, then there is very, very, very little boxing you could ever like. More where this came from too. He's had some really good fights. One more fight definitely worth watching: