The best should compete against the best. That is the motto of every sport. If Mr. Cotto is truly the Lineal Middleweight champion then he should fight GGG and not hold the belt hostage like Martinez did. He doesn't have to fight GGG, he can just hand him the title for all i care.
And how GGG is the best when he has a ****ty resume.
Cotto is trying to fight canelo and Floyd which is far better for his career than fighting GGG.
Cotto will get no credit for beating GGG especially with GGG ****ty resume. All people will say is that GGG is hypejob and fought nothing but bums. Its basically high risk low reward. Then you have ward calling GGG out but GGG is ducking him while calling out Floyd. **** if GGG cares about money fight while getting credit then won't he fight froch who is big money fight at 168.
These GGG fans want cotto to fight him while everybody else in the world want a cotto vs canelo or Floyd vs cotto.
Cotto earn his right to have many option that is far superior to fighting GGG. After he fights Canelo or Floyd then we can ask for GGG vs cotto. **** if GGG want the fame and respect then he should try to go up in weight and call out froch or ward. Right now GGG has no significant win. He is basically a nobody who has a ****ty resume and makes excuses that nobody wants to fight him.
Cotto never heard of him before. Not gonna happen. Unless he loses again and think he'll be a tune up like Austin trout lol
They know each other
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Less than 3 hours after cotto wins this thread went up. What the **** is wrong with people. Do fans even enjoy or cleberate great performances and accomplishments anymore?
seems like the people saying he shouldn't fight GGG are basically admitting that GGG is now considered THE man in the division and that Cotto can't beat him and that he would be crazy to try ... so is cotto just a paper titlist then? You can't have it both ways. He's either the middleweight champ and willing to fight the best middleweight in the world or he's a paper titlist who needs to be protected.
It's unfortunate that the duck mentality is so prevalent with fans of fighters wanting to protect them rather than wanting them to prove they are the best in their division.
This. As far normal, non-biased boxing fans are concerned, Cotto is the middle weight paper champ. No way around it really. If he wants to be treated as a champ, he needs to defend that belt. If not, admit you cherry picked and vacate asap as opposed to letting floyd school you again and having him now become the middle weight champ of the world. what a farce all this is.
seems like the people saying he shouldn't fight GGG are basically admitting that GGG is now considered THE man in the division and that Cotto can't beat him and that he would be crazy to try ... so is cotto just a paper titlist then? You can't have it both ways. He's either the middleweight champ and willing to fight the best middleweight in the world or he's a paper titlist who needs to be protected.
It's unfortunate that the duck mentality is so prevalent with fans of fighters wanting to protect them rather than wanting them to prove they are the best in their division.
Who the f-ck said he earns a shot at Cotto by fighting at SMW?
He needs to move up to 168. Period.
There's no earning anything, so STFU about what you think I said and read carefully. Golovkin needs to move up to 168 and stop waiting around for blown up WW's to fight him. "I'll fight Mayweather at 154".."Oh Cotto gotta fight him now".
There's no earning anything, he doesn't earn a Cotto fight by fighting at 168. He needs to move the f-ck and stay up there. Forget about Cotto. Fight Froch, Kessler, Ward.
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wanna hear someone try to throw water on that fire!!!
Martinez did not exactly 'duck' Golovkin . The fight started to make sense after Chavez Jr and since then Martinez has spent more time in a surgery room than in a boxing ring.
Sergio got his paycheck, now he should just retire. He did not make excuses, respect for that, but everybody with eyes could see his (sad) state.
As for Cotto vs GGG , only some huge Cotto fan can actually believe he can win.
It's not about GGG being unbeatable, but he -is- a MW, and a very good one.
Trout did beat Cotto fair and square, Lara would outclass him.
I do not dislike Cotto, but he is small for JMW , let alone MW.
seems to be descending into two hate camps here - nothing new.
but anyway yes by rights Cotto should fight GGG if he wants to be the legitimate champ. Most people think GGG is easily the best middleweight in the world.
but if he wants to think about himself,his family and money and wants to put that above legitimatizing himself as the 160 champ then he should probably go for the more winnable fight v canelo.
full on GGG haters will avoid the topic by saying GGG should give up trying to be lineal champ and move up to 168 (then later they can use the fact that he was never lineal champ at 160 against him)
Who did GGG beat to solidify himself as being the worlds best middle weight?
More top 10 MW opponents than the other middleweight champions. He's #1 at the weight.
Cotto's not even a middleweight, he's a 155lber who won't defend against middleweights.
Who did GGG beat to solidify himself as being the worlds best middle weight?
Macklin, rosado, aoumna, stevens and soon to be gaele are much more credible then beating up a hobbled fighter, just saying...
What sort of horseshit is this. Do you guys really hate Golovkin so much that you have to post this sort of garbage in order to discredit him. Golovkin earns a shot at Cotto by becoming a super middleweight. Yeah that makes perfect sense.
Only trolls and simpletons would now argue that Golovkin isn't the world's best middleweight. Cotto won't fight him because he would probably get destroyed. Stop embarrassing yourselves with utterly retarded arguments like this.
Who did GGG beat to solidify himself as being the worlds best middle weight?
The title says it all but I doubt Cotto will do it and his stans will find excuses to justify his ducking of GGG.
I think Canelo is next, probably Canelo's first fight at 160...if he beats Lara.
he's not the true middleweight champ. he's the 159 pound champ. catchweight fraud! martinez and still!
stop that bull**** there is ABSOLUTELY no different in a pound less , NONE.
As much as this is the truth, there's no way Cotto takes this fight. Way too much risk for way too little reward. Why take this fight when a Canelo fight or a Floyd rematch bring way more money to the table?
GGG has no choice but to move up to 168lbs. He's never going to get fights at MW right now.
What sort of horseshit is this. Do you guys really hate Golovkin so much that you have to post this sort of garbage in order to discredit him. Golovkin earns a shot at Cotto by becoming a super middleweight. Yeah that makes perfect sense.
Only trolls and simpletons would now argue that Golovkin isn't the world's best middleweight. Cotto won't fight him because he would probably get destroyed. Stop embarrassing yourselves with utterly retarded arguments like this.
Who the f-ck said he earns a shot at Cotto by fighting at SMW?
He needs to move up to 168. Period.
There's no earning anything, so STFU about what you think I said and read carefully. Golovkin needs to move up to 168 and stop waiting around for blown up WW's to fight him. "I'll fight Mayweather at 154".."Oh Cotto gotta fight him now".
There's no earning anything, he doesn't earn a Cotto fight by fighting at 168. He needs to move the f-ck and stay up there. Forget about Cotto. Fight Froch, Kessler, Ward.
People saying Cotto has to fight GGG now. Cotto has moved up 20lbs from 140 already. Every one has to fight GGG, yet his fans have something against HIM moving up just 8lbs north to fight there, where damn near everyone would accept his challenge.
Cotto already took the risk and won, why take a second risk? Where are GGG's risk taking moves? Why not move up to fight Froch, Kessler, Ward, Bika? The equivalent of Cotto-Martinez for Golovkin would be like fighting Hernandez or Huck at Cruiserweight, and winning.
What sort of horseshit is this. Do you guys really hate Golovkin so much that you have to post this sort of garbage in order to discredit him. Golovkin earns a shot at Cotto by becoming a super middleweight. Yeah that makes perfect sense.
Only trolls and simpletons would now argue that Golovkin isn't the world's best middleweight. Cotto won't fight him because he would probably get destroyed. Stop embarrassing yourselves with utterly retarded arguments like this.