But how often do see threads by them compared to the PBC/DAZN guys? They a bigger problem, we can't even have opinions without being grouped into a box!
Pbc and LDBC shills are mostly the same. There’s maybe one or two dazn shills.
If you banned dazn shill threads, no one would notice there’s so few of them. Right now if you banned pbc shill threads, the forum would look hacked cos there’d be almost nothing left.
Bottom line is, threads where facts are being twisted or ignored just to fit a narrative should have no place on this forum.
Whyte was found not guilty of knowingly taking D-Bol. He was NOT cleared of testing positive for a banned substance!
Fury was also not found guilty knowingly taking nandrolone. So accepted a backdated ban.
Little difference between them. HYPOCRITE...
The answer is 0, which I guarantee is the answer to my question. You’re a typical little gobsh*** always spouting an uneducated opinion on the sport cause you watch Sky Sports, and can regurgitate the same nonsense Hearn, Smith etc constantly spew out.
You’re such a loser kid...😂
Wrong.
Whyte was found not guilty AND cleared from all tests. He was confirmed to have tested negative on all substances.
Just because you wish it, doesn’t make it so. Go read the UKAD press release.
I have LITERALLY said:
Wilder made excuses
AJ made excuse
I have made excuses
EVERYONE makes excuses.
Its clear you dont know the definition of the words you yourself are using. Like hypocrite.
Sorry you felt I was attacking AJ, CLEARLY some dont, and they are right. Im not. I'll be careful to not speak the truth so i dont hurt guys like yours feelings. Sorry buddy
where did i say you were attacking AJ?
your argument is a rabbit hole because you basically want to make people get in the weeds and chase down AJs comments about the fight which you purposely parsed out of context, when the video you posted is about AJ giving a proper minute by minute breakdown of what happened.
its hypocritical because you are one of the people on this forum who would attack anyone for trying to talk about wilders weaknesses or gaffes. you and others spent half of 2019 dissing AJ for being an exposed fighter who was all marketing. and now that wilder is being ridiculed, you wanna associate him with AJ.
its complete rubbish because you want to drag AJ's post-loss actions down into the dump of embarrassment where wilder has placed himself and his fans in order to make yourself feel better.
look. great fighters sometimes lose. generational fighters lose sometimes. the reason why wilder's is worse than others is because of his lack of class, the trash he spoke about others in the sport, and his post fight shenanigans. he's the worst heavyweight belt champion maybe ever, and him and his team are an embarrassment to the sport of boxing.
Martin and Parker were belt holders, not legit champions, they won vacant titles.
Ruiz wasn't a real champion because he didn't beat a real champion.
Fury is the only legit champion in the division, the only way that changes is if someone beats him.
As for being an LDBC shill, that's hilarious.
Facts are facts boys, deal with it.
Wilder wasn’t a real champion. He got found out on Saturday.
You seem to forget that wilder won his belt from stiverne, who got handed the belt without having to fight anyone. So that makes wilder a fake champ.
So then, that makes fury a fake champion too. We can do this all day.
I mean, technically I suppose you're not wrong. But Joshua and Fury both have the same no1 win (yes Fury made much easier work of it). You could say Wilder is a better win than the rest of Joshuas wins but honestly, removing Wlad from the equation I really dont know if Wilder actually would go 4-0 facing Povetkin, Parker, Whyte and Ruiz.
Technically he is wrong. Charles Martin and Joseph Parker we’re both bonafide belt holders. Only klitschko wasn’t. Andy Ruiz was also a legitimate champion.
Anytime an LDBC shill starts a thread about a non-pbc fighter, it’s always bound to be filled with lies and twisted half-truths.
Wilder had 10 title defenses and was an unbeaten champion for 5 years, tying the record with Ali.
That makes him legit.
Try harder.
So you agree that wilders win against stiverne is not legit then since he won the belt from someone who wasn’t legit.
Your own ”facts” and logic make those 10 defenses irrelevant. Wilder was defending an illegitimate title. And then he got his butt whooped on Saturday. In embarrassing fashion, no less.
“Facts are facts”.
As I’ve mentioned before on these forums, wilder has to be the worst heavyweight champion in history. If I was an alphabet organization, I’d be embarrassed if this guy was ever my champ
Thanks 'that g' we appreciate your brilliance
You’re welcome. Thanks for noticing. I’m just trying to save others the trouble of reading his hypocritical rabbit hole rubbish arguments.
Since Fury won we've seen a ton of these new posters (feb 2020 join date so likely an alt of someone banned) with angry race related posts.
lol how in the world is that race related?
Breland so soft spoken I never really hear him or his instructions honestly
Ronnie Shields tore into his Corner yesterday :lol1: Wilder don't even have a Cutman? Wow WTF!
Shocking that a boxer that’s been champion for 10 years would let his head trainer be his cut man. It’s a joke man.
Not at the start but he became a legitimate champion due to his long dominate reign. At the end of last year he was in many pundits p4p list.
Wilder was a 10x more legitimate champion than Charles Martin and Jo Parker.
Getting his butt whupped by Wilder is irrelevant to this discussion.
Anthony Joshua has been higher on those same p4p lists over 10x longer than wilder ever was.
According to your logic, Anthony Joshua “became” a legitimate champion by beating multiple BOxrec top 10 opponents to wilders 1.
Anthony Joshua is a 10x more legitimate champion than wilder.
Sorry. “Facts are facts”.
"LDBC queen angry she wasted her welfare check" and you don't think that is race related?
i think it's actually quite insulting to black people for you to say that it's race related.
there's nothing in that line that refers to race. if i were to really analyze, you clearly think that either the "welfare checks" part or the "ldbc queen" part is somehow synonymous with being black. in other words, in your mind, the only possible supporters of wilder and the ldbc who may be on welfare cannot be anything BUT black.
that, my friend, is actually really insulting to me.
you're the one being racist here.
No he wasn’t. You can’t have D-Bol in your system without ingesting. He was cleared of knowingly taking it as his levels were consistent with contamination. Exact same excuse Fury used.
He was never cleared of testing positive for D-Bol.
Don’t be obtuse. dont insist on being an idiot. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
In respect of Mr Whyte's drug testing results, the following points are relevant:
There is nothing in Mr Whyte's longitudinal urinary profile to suggest that he has used steroids.
The levels of the metabolites found in Mr Whyte's 20 June 2019 sample were extremely low.
Mr Whyte had provided a urine sample to VADA on 17 June 2019, i.e. 3 days before his 20 June 2019 sample, which was tested by a WADA-accredited laboratory and which returned a negative result, including for the metabolites in question.
Mr Whyte provided several other doping control samples to UKAD and VADA between 20 June and 20 July 2019 (i.e. the date of his fight with Oscar Rivas) – all of which also tested negative.
In light of the above points, the trace amounts of metabolites found in the 20 June 2019 sample are consistent with an isolated contamination event, and they are not suggestive of doping.
He's absolutely right though...and it's not really that difficult to understand his points.
If you don't get it that's on you man
Lol oh I get the arguments, which is exactly why I called them rabbit hole, rubbish, hypocritical arguments. It’s also why we should save others from having to read or respond to such trash.
A lot of lies in this post. But that's what your type does. I made a thread after AJ lost saying it happens in boxing and he'll get back up. But you guys pick and choose and pull things out of context. And the insult people because YOU don't understand. That makes you the STUPID one.
I can't argue with STUPID. ESPECIALLY stupid liars with little to no reading comprehension skills. So have a good day
if we look at your history of posting and shilling for wilder and the LDBC, the only thing accurate about your post is your MO. when you are called out, accuse the poster of lying without being specific, call people names, and try to avoid the central point of discussion.
by the way, i never actually called you stupid. but i still stand by this. your arguments in this thread are rubbish, they are hypocritical, and its a rabbit hole.
you already agreed that wilder's excuses are quite embarrassing and ridiculous. just leave it at that.
Fury has still beaten more legit champions than Joshua even if you discount Wilder. :)
Fury is the man in the HW division until someone beats him. Fact :)
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#whyAreYouRunning?
At least you agree that fury’s win vs wilder is not a legit win.
By your logic, Fury has only “beaten” one legit champion, klitschko. And then he got caught for using peds in that very same fight. That disqualifies that win.
So then fury has beaten exactly ZERO legit champions.
At least Anthony Joshua has never been popped. And he’s beaten more belt holders than fury and wilder COMBINED, legit or not.
Anthony Joshua is a more legit champion than fury.
Sorry. “Facts are facts”.
Um, not sure why he went against Breeland in the post-fight conference and threw him under the bus. Breeland made the right decision. Wilder's legs were shot after the 3rd round so what was the point of continuing the fight? He was just taking a ton of shots and could not generate any power on his punches.
Is Deas trying to get Breeland off the team?
Wilder will be looking to fire someone when the dust settles. Deas is just trying to make sure it won’t be him.
Yeah they should have docked him points. They should also have told him to stop moving so much and stand in the middle of the ring at mid range so wilder could hit him.
With his hands tied behind his back and his eyes blindfolded, no less.
I give 100% credit to Fury for defeating Wilder. No matter what, yesterday was going to be Fury's night.
Based on his performance last night, I'm inclined to believe something was wrong with Wilder before the fight.
Pre-fight injury? Sick? Mental exhaustion?
He mentioned something about his leg?
Wilder in round 2 was already gassed, in no way looked like the Wilder who fought Fury in the first bout.
My 2 cents :beerchug:
Probably just hubris.
Don't bother with logic, man. They're going to use last night as an excuse to say Joshua would always beat Wilder.
Nah that’s not the logic. The logic is AJ has always wanted an undisputed fight. Wilder never did. Fury does. End of story.
It doesn't matter though because Wilder faced a savage beating because he was willing and able too eat all of that shit just to land his equalizer. He is a soldier. The question you should be asking yourself is why couldn't Fury keep him down? It's because of combination of Wilder's balls and Fury's lack of punching power even after he outweighed Wilder by more than 40 pounds.
So does Anthony Joshua get credit too for taking all those punches from a boxer who outweighed him by 40 pounds??
Is AJ a soldier too?
A busted eardrum hasn't even been confirmed, says on twitter he has a cut in his ear.
Deas: Wilder had a cut inside his ear that may have impacted his balance and probably will need a few stitches. https://t.co/IKh3iXRXv0— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) February 23, 2020
Can you believe this nonsense? “ this fight was looking like the greatest fight of all time mayne, until one of the fighters put a beatdown on the other...”
Fuck no! Wilder was eating punches from the best P4P Heavyweight in the world. Where as Joshua ate punches from a handpicked, unranked, last minute replacement tomato can fighter with very little time to prepare.
Ah but you guys claimed he was featherfisted before the fight. Wilder was eating punches only because he had no idea how to avoid them. And no, Andy Ruiz was not “unranked” or a tomato can. He was ranked higher than all 40 Wilder’s opponents except fury and Ortiz.
Wipe your mouth. Your double standard drool is showing.
Joshua didn't want the fight until 2021. He's not signed to DAZN, they can't force him to do anything. Wilder may still sign to DAZN, but if he doesn't, the reason will be because there really is no guarantee of when the AJ fight will be.
Nothing in life, affords you a contract without acceptance of an offer first.
lies. obviously if AJ declines the fight, then wilder cannot be bound to dazn. plus, in that case, he would have made 20m for the breazelle fight, then ride off into the sunset. AJ isn't bound, but if AJ somehow refuses to sign for the fight, then wilder is free to go, and AJ has clearly ducked.
wilder himself came out and said AJ is begging for the fight, but yet you still want to peddle 2021 lies