Something looks a bit OFF about Fury's gloves and punches...

True, but whites have also had many more generations to build wealth and significantly more economic opportunities geographically since they're way more of them and they're spread across more areas thoughtout the country. And of course racism will never play a role in impeding any economic opportunities as it will minorities, Blacks mainly. So when weighed properly, the welfare rate disparate is not nearly as wide as it may seem and is probably much closer to being an even rate as instrinsic studies on race almost always show. The whole welfare caricature has for decades been a code word in political circles for describing blacks. When it's called out, of course people will say "but i never mentioned race". That's the reason for using the code words the first place. But that's basically the entire basis of the southern strategy which used racial tension as a means of getting disaffected white voters to vote against their own interest and is the reason many of them don't even believe in global warming despite having absolutely no scientific basis for denying it. Now a generation later, they want to blame Jews and immigrants for the loss of wealth and a shrinking middle class, when in fact it nothing to do with them. It was NAFTA, outsourcing, tax cuts and deregulation. But the same thing occurs on the liberal side to tho. Simply by not being the racist party, that's enough for most minorities to vote democrat. Then they keep policies in place that benefit corporate America. It's also the reason MSNBC is freaking out that Bernie Sanders, an actual progressive, might be the nominee I get what you're saying, referring to welfare totally is an insidious way of being racist sometimes. Anyway, yeah, also as you say, not the right thread to jump off into this topic Re: gloves, it all seems a bit far-fetched to me tbh

Damn, this shit has just gone from bad to worse for Tyson Fury. I'm on the record now saying that, outside of being knocked out or TKO Deontay Wilder will regain his WBC title belt in the trilogy. Al Haymon would make sure of it because he is going to work the officials and the Nevada State Athletic commission like never before to ensure a Deontay Wilder victory. A lot of people owe him a lot of favors in that town; Especially when it comes to their economy with the Money Mayweather cards. Now watch how he starts calling in his markers. Just wait and see!

Damn, this shit has just gone from bad to worse for Tyson Fury. I'm on the record now saying that, outside of being knocked out or TKO Deontay Wilder will regain his WBC title belt in the trilogy. Al Haymon would make sure of it because he is going to work the officials and the Nevada State Athletic commission like never before to ensure a Deontay Wilder victory. Just wait and see!

The Excuses is why he is not improving Skill Wise "Boxing Skills Are Overrated" "I Don't Run" "I Don't Do Road Work" Wilder mentality towards boxing was always WRONG...further proof he needs a real honest Trainer and not another enabler THIS!!!! He got one of the best American amateur boxers of all time and a decent pro in Mark Breland for years now yet he remains so markedly deficient in BASIC boxing skills. On top of that his passive approach waiting on a KO opportunity to happen while losing rounds is leading to an erosion of the few skills he has. SMDH With all that being said something strange was definitely going on with Fury's glove(s) Another vid to watch (if posted already forgive me): https://youtu.be/m8ApVzTS_OQ

I kind of went off on a political tangent but i agree with some of the posters here. I always thought Wilder was a fraud but that doesn't mean if something was done unjustly, it shouldn't be called out. And to those saying "oh it's just flapping, it's not a big deal", that isn't true because he's appears to actually be hitting Wilder with his bare fist with little padding. That's actually very dangerous and will potentially cause each hit to cause much more damage. So far no one's presented empirical evidence debunking it. This would be either showing other fights where boxers gloves flap like that or punches showing Fury connecting thru the gloves padded portion and not his bare knuckles thru the unpadded portion

absolutely not rekt There are huge disparities in welfare participation rates between ethnicities, so that black people are MUCH more likely to be on welfare, on average I don't think the original post (re: welfare checks) was racist per se, but it is certainly playing on a disturbing fact that many people are rightly sensitive to True, but whites have also had many more generations to build wealth and significantly more economic opportunities geographically since they're way more of them and they're spread across more areas thoughtout the country. And of course racism will never play a role in impeding any economic opportunities as it will minorities, Blacks mainly. So when weighed properly, the welfare rate disparate is not nearly as wide as it may seem and is probably much closer to being an even rate as instrinsic studies on race almost always show. The whole welfare caricature has for decades been a code word in political circles for describing blacks. When it's called out, of course people will say "but i never mentioned race". That's the reason for using the code words the first place. But that's basically the entire basis of the southern strategy which used racial tension as a means of getting disaffected white voters to vote against their own interest and is the reason many of them don't even believe in global warming despite having absolutely no scientific basis for denying it. Now a generation later, they want to blame Jews and immigrants for the loss of wealth and a shrinking middle class, when in fact it nothing to do with them. It was NAFTA, outsourcing, tax cuts and deregulation. But the same thing occurs on the liberal side to tho. Simply by not being the racist party, that's enough for most minorities to vote democrat. Then they keep policies in place that benefit corporate America. It's also the reason MSNBC is freaking out that Bernie Sanders, an actual progressive, might be the nominee

Something was seriously wrong with furys gloves, they kept ricocheting off wilders head at an 85% connect rate The only thing off about it, as far as Wilder is concerned, is that they kept hitting him in the face :lol1::lol1::lol1:

Yup... Unless its edited and I don't see how that could be done there is something wrong. It looks to me that he is hitting Wilder flush with the unpadded portion of the gloves.

Fury is innocent, there's no glove tampering. He slaps, but lots of fighters do that. In the first fight, I think one of his gloves became partially loose, and that's why it's flapping. In the second fight, he slaps with the left and it bends a little, but not as much as in the first fight.

... then the "flexibility of the gloves" (in the first fight) is responsible for the stoppage in the second fight"?... Please tell me that it was... ") I'm not saying that Fury was wearing the gloves improperly. I don't believe that's true, because the gloves would be examined in big fights such as this. There are clips on youtube from both the 1st and 2nd fights that show this flexible glove when he throws hooks. It looks weird, but I think there's a reasonable explanation and I'm sure it will be debunked. ... (not Fury fan here)... But are you able to show me a YouTube clip that shows this "flexible glove"?... (only for the "record", tbh...) :)

Absolutely rekt. There are actually more white people in welfare in this country than black people. The fact that he associates welfare with black people shows what he really believes. Sick racist he should be banned. absolutely not rekt There are huge disparities in welfare participation rates between ethnicities, so that black people are MUCH more likely to be on welfare, on average I don't think the original post (re: welfare checks) was racist per se, but it is certainly playing on a disturbing fact that many people are rightly sensitive to

... then the "flexibility of the gloves" (in the first fight) is responsible for the stoppage in the second fight"?... Please tell me that it was... :) I'm not saying that Fury was wearing the gloves improperly. I don't believe that's true, because the gloves would be examined in big fights such as this. There are clips on youtube from both the 1st and 2nd fights that show this flexible glove when he throws hooks. It looks weird, but I think there's a reasonable explanation and I'm sure it will be debunked.

(...) but I can't explain the flexibility of the gloves in the footage. I'm sure someone else here can easily debunk it though. ... then the "flexibility of the gloves" (in the first fight) is responsible for the stoppage in the second fight"?... Please tell me that it was... :)

You're telling me your hands can't get to a right angle with your wrist? See a doctor. I think he's saying that with the handwraps taped tightly on, and then the gloves on over the handwraps, it shouldn't be possible to turn your wrist that much. Personally I don't believe that something like that could happen in such a big fight, but I can't explain the flexibility of the gloves in the footage. I'm sure someone else here can easily debunk it though.

You're telling me your hands can't get to a right angle with your wrist? See a doctor. I am telling u ure glove can't do a full bend almost touching the front of ure wrist bending half way if the ure knuckles are tightly secured at the top of the glove...........0 possibilty.

Not really.....again. I am not a fanboy of ether fighter but u obviously are blinded by complete deluded fanboyism that u would even go against the laws of pure physics.. Each one of his punches don't have to = a bent sideways glove. For instance u could throw a pin point straight punch directly down the center and it would look fairly normal. It's the pulling back of the glove swiping blows that shows the most wiggle action. No point ever in history have a glove bent almost sideways and the gloves were on tight snugged to the knuckle .....ure completely fooling yourself in the name of fanboyism if u think otherwise. Basic example put on a regular everyday finger glove tightly. Throw a hook. No wiggle action.....now put it on half way to the wrist and throw a hook and see what happens. A simler motion in what furys glove was doing......nothing personal about it or threating who u like deeply as a fight fan. Just realty....... You're telling me your hands can't get to a right angle with your wrist? See a doctor.

Okkkk So the Commission didn't see the gloves huh....Y'all are cry baby *****es! Wilder is 0-2 with Fury...Got his ASS BEAT AND KO

If there was nothing in the top part of the glove it squish in every time a straight punch landed. It would be so noticeable there'd be no debate. I find your conspiracy theory utterly ridiculous. The commission checks the gloves and signs them. You're telling me nobody would notice Fury having his gloves halfway off? Not the commission, Wilder or the referee? :rofl: U 100% depending on commissions refs and other 3rd party things in the sport of boxing is completly idiotic. boxing historically and currently has the worst commissions in almost any sport of all history....why do u think the judges suck so bad. A man can beat the living day lights out of another man and the judges give it to the man who lost all 12 rounds blooded embarrassed and bruised. Countless things are passed by the commissions eyes only to be later discovered it was *****. Rense and repeat......i can go on and on about the commission failing and give countless real life examples...the point at hand. Theres absolutely no point or time in the history of gloving where a mans glove bent half way and that mans knuckles were fully tight sunked into the glove. That's doesn't take a consipercy theorist.....its called common sense, basic physics, grade 5 biology, it's called not being so trapped into 1 fight as a fanboy to where now the world and laws some how no longer exist. I can't tell u what wilder noticed or the ref. In fact I don't even care what they noticed.....But I can tell u that there is 0 0 0 percent chance a glove bends half way and the the knuckles are tightly to the top of that glove. 0 percent.......have what u want with that.

Fury exposed and his fans are scurrying. ... yes, Fury got exposed... (he has nowhere to go now, right?...)

Fury exposed and his fans are scurrying.