So why didn't he fight Floyd after the 2nd Vargas fight? It's funny how Shane waited till Floyd got on top to start calling him out. But when Shane was the P4P best he ignored Floyd's request for a fight @ 147. They had a fight setup and Shane walked on it. So Shane's no different than Floyd or any of the others. It's easy to say you'll fight when you got nothing to lose or nobody else to fight.
Because back then when shane was P4P the best, Floyd wasn't. But know they are both P4P fighters, and floyd don't have other option to fight him, cotto or pac, Or floyd can choose to fight another lightweight
yes he sucks so much, that a puncher could not knock him out even with a broken jaw, he sucks so much that he moved up and kicked mirandas as worse than pavlik. And miranda was considered like a monster after the banks knockout. Sure he has flaws, like a suspect stamina but too say he sucks is bullshit
what's the use of continuously fighting roy? just call it a day and stop embarassing yourself!
you've been great to the sport but father time is something you cannot turn back..
well, i think the use for him is that he likes the sport, and he should do what he likes, nevermind of what the people think of him
I Think he is greater than duran when you look at what weight he began, and beat fighters like morales, barrera, de la hoya, hatton, marquez ... Duran was great at lightweight and he beat sugar ray at welter but did not soo good above lightweight, sure he cameback from losses and beat guys like iran barkley ans gave marvin hagler all he could handle. But for his comebacks , davey more and iran barkley weren't great fighters, and he didn't won against a great fighter after he beat sugar ray
How can he not be in the top 20. Even if he doesn't beat cotto or floyd, than you can say he isn't in his weight division, if you considering that he begun at flyweight. but in history i have rarely seen i fight that is so complete. He has great skillz, speed, power, stamina,heart.
This are ****ing stupid. I've never seen a Pep or an Ezzard Charles fight. I mean what am I supposed to say? Right now he is unquestionably the best fighter in the world and among the top five I've seen enough of to judge. Maybe in the top two or three
you know what, your damn right. On second thought you can compare fighter of different era's because boxing has changed, all we can say is that pac is a altime great. i think every pound for pound best fighter of every era are great
Well said! its his life, he can do whatever he wants. There will always be those internet toughguys.
eah you found the wright words for this haters, internet toughguys.
also i don't aplaud him for quitting, i can understand him, and he showed heart by firing back when he got caught
and it took soo many hard shots from mosley till he got knocked out. I'm a shane mosley fan, but i'm sick of people hating on him, he is still a warrior. I think many fighter wouldn't go out for the ninth because it was obvious that he would get knock out
Vitali is not looking good. Does Johnsons style make him have no speed and power? Vitali should retire now unless he wants Haye to retire him.
When was the last time he Ko'd the opponent? and he is only fighting fat, low skilled bums.
i mean look at klitschkos fights, he was never fast, he was always pretty slow but he is timing his opponents, IF they fight.
And does Haye only fight fast and powerfull heavyweight ? I mean his last opponents were mormeck a good cruiserweight with a suspect chin, macarinelli who gets knocked out by every one, barrett no comments, and valuev .
Im just saying that he should retire on top just like his role model Lennox Lewis did.
Quitali has clearly lost power, and he hasnt ended a fight with his opponent on the canvas in his last 4 bouts. Kevin Johnson is skilled, but a guy like David Tua would have punished him for sticking his chin out like that.
KJput his chin out there like a platter and Vitali couldnt even do anything to him. Its embarassing.
What's that shit about "quitali", is it about the byrd fight, man turn the page
No, some people thnk tyson is overrated because he got KO'd in every fight he lost, but that was when he was past his prime, and that makes him underated.
Take tyson before he went to jail, he only lost too douglas because he did not prepae well, in fact he won even against douglas, because of the long count douglas got.
Muhammad Ali, could be greather but by far nor so exicting
Joe Frazier Got greater heart, stamina, but not same power and speed. Frazier may have got a better chin, but not by far, because mikes chin is also underrated. they are even too me
George Foreman, greater because he made a succesfull comeback after his prime
Larry Holmes, not so exciting, and fought in a weak era, could have been the same result if tyson fought a prime holmes
Joe Louis maybe greater in his era, difficult too say because boxing has changed since
Rocky Marciano, overated, good heavyweight, but dis not fought much of the prime top fighters, tyson speed and power might have been too much for him
Sonny Liston, powerfull but very beatable
Jack Johnson, haven't seen him fight
Gene Tunney, haven't seen him fight
Jack Dempsey taylor made for tyson, too wild.
maybe tyson is top 5 in the list
well he only had one fight at 135 in diaz so i presumme you mean 130 lb....., i think the weight did take something away from him, marquez hurt him and cotto couldnt, so it had an effect but i wouldnt say he was drained as such
Yeah i meant 130. Here in france where i live we aren't used too talk in pounds. We say super featherweight for 130
Hey guys, Vasyl Lomachenko is not in the featherweight finals in Beijing. He'll face Khedafi Djelkhir of France for the gold medal. I think he'll win by a wide margin and, hopefully, turn pro.
This guy is one of the best amateur fighters I've seen in a long, long time.
yeah he's great, and i think he will win,but khedafi djelkhir has got a big heart, is very entertaining, can't wait too see him turn pro after the olympics
yeah yeah. manny is gonna die fighting oscar.
did steve forbes die? he's not that much bigger than manny.
i'll tell you one thing...... pacquiao-de la hoya won't be as boring as floyd-oscar. i'll tell you that.
both oscar and manny are fighters.
i agree enterely
a guy on boxingscene had a good point, he said steve forbe managed too hit oscar in his face and bust his face up a little. Many is easaly as big as forbes, is as fast maybe faster, and hits harder, i think many will cary decent power at welterweight. so i think he has got a good chance too beat him
It seems to me that cotto is/was the only fighter who didnt avoid anyone when he was at the top, He never said stuffs like "Who is _____", It seem to me that as soon as a fighter gets to the top he adopts that attitude which is quite sad.
Only Cotto seem not to have this attitude and it makes me respect him even more.....Any other fighters apart from Cotto?
you're right, cotto never ducked a fighter, and he will never, if he gets a rematch against margarito, he#ll step up too the challenge
i think it would be less competitive. Angulo carries more power in a single punch than margarito, and have a slighty better defense. so margarito, would not hurt kirkland, and would be hit all night long. a missmatch
why should he be affraid of Aaron Pryor, he fought wilfred benitez, prime hearns, hagler, and durans who was a this moment one of the baddest boxer on earth