I applaud Victor Ortiz for quitting.

Plus many, many, many more of the greatest. A lot of them, fighters who we genuinely take motivation from as those with the greatest of hearts and true warriors. Today, Cotto has quit, Calderon has quit, Tszyu quit, Mosley tried to quit, Oscar quit, Rafael Marquez quit, Israel Vasquez quit, Erik Morales quit, Klitschko quit, Holyfield quit, Kessler has quit.....and it goes on and on and on. It's their past and future actions that tell us what it really means though. Duran quit in a fight he wasn't hurt in and yet he is, without doubt and proven many times over, one of histories greatest fighters with the biggest heart and warrior mentality. Maybe more people would have been happy if instead of fighting hard until deciding to stop himself, Ortiz has just stopped fighting and survived? Just ran away, held, made it a pathetic fight....? . I'm with you on this one Benny, especially when it came to Cotto I thought the backlash was ridiculous and downright pathetic. Fact of the matter is they looked so bad at quitting because they never knew how and never thought for one second that they ever would. There have been thousands of fighters who went down from a punch, who could have gotten up, but instead put on a good act, took their 10 count and collected their check. If Cotto or Ortiz had hit the deck on a glancing blow and stayed there pretending to be unable to get up..... that would make them a quitter. Instead they knew nothing better than to get to their feet, it was the instinct of a fighter, not a quitter. In all walks of life people are best served knowing when they are beaten and accepting their losses and moving on. A true quitter is someone who plans for quitting and knows how to do it without people being able to pin it on him.

Roberto Duran is a quitter. So what. Sometimes it's a good decision to quit. Boxing is a sport that allows you to redeem yourself, which Victor has done. No one would seriously pick Maidana to beat Ortiz at 147, we all know Ortiz would finish him within 6 rds at 147. I don't think people realise just how many of the greats of the game have quit. Whether they quit mentally or physically, it's the same thing. It's often how it's done or what is said that people have a whinge about, but, no matter what is said or how it's done they are still quitting. Ray Robinson has quit. Roberto Duran has quit. Julio Cesar Chavez has quit. Alexis Arguello has quit. Mike Tyson has quit. Aaron Pryor has quit. Plus many, many, many more of the greatest. A lot of them, fighters who we genuinely take motivation from as those with the greatest of hearts and true warriors. Today, Cotto has quit, Calderon has quit, Tszyu quit, Mosley tried to quit, Oscar quit, Rafael Marquez quit, Israel Vasquez quit, Erik Morales quit, Klitschko quit, Holyfield quit, Kessler has quit.....and it goes on and on and on. It's their past and future actions that tell us what it really means though. Duran quit in a fight he wasn't hurt in and yet he is, without doubt and proven many times over, one of histories greatest fighters with the biggest heart and warrior mentality. Maybe more people would have been happy if instead of fighting hard until deciding to stop himself, Ortiz has just stopped fighting and survived? Just ran away, held, made it a pathetic fight....? I don't really applaud it and what he did at all. I would much rather him fight on and try to win. But, I'm not going call him a ***** because of it. I'm not a fan of his and I'm not defending him out of some fan honour or something. I'm also not going to say "Well, he's a boxer and you have to take punches to be a boxer"...because I do know that he's been knocked down and hurt many times, some of them very badly hurt, in his very short career already and we've all seen him get back up and win. He takes a lot of punches in all of his fights. In this one particular fight though he was obviously taking too much punishment and was in great pain and knew he couldn't win. Nor am I going to say "Well, in order to be a champion there are going to be fighters who don't stay down for you" because that just means that he might not become a great champion. Who cares? There are millions of fighters who aren't great champions. If he doesn't have it, he doesn't have it. Simple as that. Lots of fighters don't have it. Some do, some don't. I'm not going to **** on the ones that don't have it, and I'm going to enjoy the ones that do. If Ortiz keeps giving us the kind of fights he has so far though, he's doing better than most and I'd much prefer to watch him over someone like Malignaggi.

quitting or no quitting....................Ortiz was a cherry pick by team mayweather........... Ya, maybe the same way Terry Norris was "cherrypicked" by Ray Leonard...

What he said in the post fight interview bothers me more than him quitting. He "doesn't deserve to get beaten up like this"? I can respect the choice of looking after his health but to say that in a sport where you're going to get hit is nothing to applaud about. It was idiotic, really. Sorry, Victor, but you had your foot in your mouth with that one.

so quitting is a virtue now?.......:bsflag: i adimre ortiz becase of what he showed in his last fight ..but for quitting?....:thumbsdow

Well said. I honestly believe that if anyone signs on a dotted line signs a death warrant. Any hard perfect placed punch can end ur career. I believe ruelas exited for doin such thing. Can't remember which ruelas brother was it.

It's about time someone came about and simply said "No, I just quit because I didn't want to end up like Ali, and a complete vegetable that can't even speak, just to please a bunch of f*cking ******* on the internet who have absolutely never stepped into the ring at such a high level and had to fight for money and yet have the temerity to call me *****! I would rather come back and fight properly and healthily another day and win." I think he gave us a good fight and will surely be back, hopefully better than ever and with the mind set to now make sure he doesn't do what wankers like the majority of this board want him to do. Get over yourselves you bunch of hypocritical queers. Every single one of you would ****e your pants in a second if faced with the prospect of some guy across the ring who has knocked out every single one of his opponents, and he wants to literally pulverize your face into moosh. Oh, wait, that's right, you all just sit on your arses and play on your computer typing about a fighter who gives you entertainment as being a ***** for providing you with one of the best fights of the year so far! You f*cking bunch of wanking homo retards. Damn, I'm sick of hearing pathetic little kids whine about a fighter quitting. How many of you have been smashed in the face over and over by a guy with serious power? None of you! Christ, Id like to take a bat to some of you losers calling him a quitter or a *****. Not a single one of you who call him that would even know what it's like to step into that ring and fight someone desperate to kick your head in. You all disgust me. :nonono: sugar ray robinson fought in degree that no boxer can do it again. thats why sugar ray robinson is the best fighter of all time and not ALI. all boxers can win and lose whether what/how situation is. floyd will fight ortiz in a tune up fight and a money fight like pacquiao is doing too. and lets enjoy boxing while it last for the both pac and money may. they are taking bulk of money not fighting each other...

Pride is a sin. You know what they say, "too much pride can kill a man." In boxing this is absolutely true.

the puto quit , guy has no heart just like that no heart bithc Roberto Duran.........:footinmou

Roberto Duran is a quitter. So what. Sometimes it's a good decision to quit. Boxing is a sport that allows you to redeem yourself, which Victor has done. No one would seriously pick Maidana to beat Ortiz at 147, we all know Ortiz would finish him within 6 rds at 147.

It's about time someone came about and simply said "No, I just quit because I didn't want to end up like Ali, and a complete vegetable that can't even speak, just to please a bunch of f*cking ******* on the internet who have absolutely never stepped into the ring at such a high level and had to fight for money and yet have the temerity to call me *****! I would rather come back and fight properly and healthily another day and win." I think he gave us a good fight and will surely be back, hopefully better than ever and with the mind set to now make sure he doesn't do what wankers like the majority of this board want him to do. Get over yourselves you bunch of hypocritical queers. Every single one of you would ****e your pants in a second if faced with the prospect of some guy across the ring who has knocked out every single one of his opponents, and he wants to literally pulverize your face into moosh. Oh, wait, that's right, you all just sit on your arses and play on your computer typing about a fighter who gives you entertainment as being a ***** for providing you with one of the best fights of the year so far! You f*cking bunch of wanking homo retards. Damn, I'm sick of hearing pathetic little kids whine about a fighter quitting. How many of you have been smashed in the face over and over by a guy with serious power? None of you! Christ, Id like to take a bat to some of you losers calling him a quitter or a *****. Not a single one of you who call him that would even know what it's like to step into that ring and fight someone desperate to kick your head in. You all disgust me. :nonono: Well you dont need to tell ricans this? We are born quitters.

Fun fact: Ortiz has knocked down every person he's faced.

Ortiz: "Look at me now, I'm getting paperrrr!" Don't mind Struggle, as his own mind struggles to comprehend the sport of boxing.

Its not what most people want to see as it kind of goes against the qualities most people associate boxing with, but if a fighter feels that he should do that when he is getting beaten, then who are we to argue? Only the fighter knows how he feels and I am pretty certain that all boxers know the consequences of doing that, it could well ruin their image and their reputation.

You realize this thread was made 2 years ago, right? That's twice in two days you've made a raving idiot out of yourself, well done. -golfclap- :lol1: :lol1:

Despite their many differences, one major difference between UFC/MMA and boxing is that in boxing it is unacceptable in almost all circumstances to quit. Fighters who do it are labelled and criticized. In UFC/MMA, quitting is not only OK, its part of the sport in terms of tapping out. "Oh, my arm is going to snap, let me tap" is the same as..."oh, my brain is bleeding, let me 'quit' the fight." Why is it so hard to imagine it being OK for a boxer to "tap out" so to speak, by voluntarily ending the fight? If Gerald McClellan had been less of "warrior", he'd probably be more of a whole man today.

When people critise boxers for quitting i always think of nigel benn/gerald mcclellan..and what happened after.

We live to fight another days. IMO its harder to say you had enough then to dance around a ring or to say down. Some times you need to take the risk and in this next fight he needs to take that risk.

I said it at the time, and my opinion is still the same. Not one of us on here has the right to question his decision as it was his pain to try and deal with, and his decision to make. It's easy to sit here and say "I'd do this and that, or I'd go down swinging because I'm a real warrior, or he gets paid a fortune and knows the risks involved" but the reality is that we don't know how we'd react until it's our a55 being beaten 6 ways from Sunday. Ortiz knew he was going to lose that fight, he was mentally beaten as well as physically. Therefore the smart thing to do was admit defeat before he got badly injured, regroup and come again. That in itself takes guts.

He was in trouble? lol what an understatement. And it was a very hard beating. Especially for a young fighter having not gone through it before. You can't just make sweeping comparisons. Well done, thousands of fighters have got knocked down in the past and not beat the count. Doesn't make them subject to criticism just because JMM gets up. You like repeating yourself while conveniently avoiding the point of why should he have risked his health just to long the fight out for a couple more rounds? The fact that he's come back, got a WW title, and a Mayweather fight, suggests to me he knows what he's doing. So I'll trust his judgment on what was right for him to do, rather than 'bojangles1987' on an Internet forum. It was a two way firefight. The type that often defines fighters. He doesn't have to risk anything if he doesn't wan to. I never said he made the wrong decision. If that's what he felt was best for his career, all the power to him. Doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized, especially since the fight set his career back two years. He could have been in the position he's in now a year ago.