Are these 10 heavyweights better than Mike Tyson?

Liston's reach is listed at 84", Foreman's at 82". I've also seen Liston's reach listed at 86" and Foreman's at 80". Height isn't an issue (which I'm assuming the 4" refers to) unless they legalize headbutting :) Poet Isn't it said that you generate more power when punching down at a target? In Foreman vs. Frazier, Foreman was punching down and was able to hurt Frazier, whereas Ali was about even in height so Foreman couldn't punch down. Liston wouldn't be punching down much on Tyson.

Pretty solid list, but IDK if he's worse than all those 10, to me he's at least a top 10 HW.

I think Tyson would have KO'd Ali.

Simple: Long reach plus one-punch power. The ability to land KO force punches from the outside without Frazier being close enough to fire back was the key to Foreman destroying Joe. Liston had a solid reach advantage over Foreman and Tyson's reach was shorter than Frazier's. While Liston's power may have been slightly less than Foreman's at least it was in the same zip code. Poet Not sure about that. Foreman and Liston's reach are similar but Foreman has almost 4 inches on Liston. I think Liston vs. Tyson would be very different than Foreman vs. Tyson or Foreman vs. Frazier.

Whether he avenged the losses isn't the issue.....I don't base my views of Lennox's chin on the McCall and Rahman fights in anycase: The punch McCall landed was a monster that would have had 90% of Heavyweight chins in serious trouble AND it was a premature stoppage; Lennox was woefully unprepared for the Rahman fight and wasn't acclimated to the altitude. My view of Lennox's chin is based on the number of times I saw him wobbled and put on queer street by less than steller punches. If it wasn't for the chin Lennox makes my top-10......hell, if it wasn't for the chin Patterson might make my top-10 as well. Poet well if you look at his record from the view that his chin isnt that sturdy,it makes it more incredible but i see you're point its just my opinion,neither of us are right or wrong-atleast you take the time too explain you're view unlike certain people on here

Muhammad Ali - Beats Tyson easily Joe Frazier - Even money fight George Foreman - See Foreman Vs. Frazier I Larry Holmes - Holmes wins a solid decision in a good fight Joe Louis - Louis by mid to late rounds stoppage Rocky Marciano - Even money fight Sonny Liston - See Foreman Vs. Frazier I Jack Johnson - Johnson by close decision in a boring fight Gene Tunney - Tunney a Light-Heavyweight so skip Jack Dempsey - Even money fight Poet I give Tyson great odds to beat Liston, I don't see in any way how you compare that to Foreman vs. Frazier

Well, maybe if he had a better chin..... Poet Think fo who was able to actually Ko tyson Douglass and Lewis....Holyfield stopped him by TKO (he was still standing) Willaims stopped him by TKO (he claimed he hurt his knee) and McBride stopped him because he quit on hs stool...I really look at his last fight being against Lewis. To me that was the last fight were he actually tried at all.... So to answer your question he was stpped twice in mt eyes by actual KO Lewis and Douglas...Douglas was a decent puncher (25 KO's) and was able to put him down after 10 rounds of punishment from the jab and the over hand right. Lewis was a pretty good puncher (32 KO's) and Tyson walked through some pretty big shots before finally going out on his shield in the 8th round after tremndous amounts of punishment from the jab and the upper cuts. To say he had a bad chin is not true.....Lefty

Well, maybe if he had a better chin..... Poet i disagree,he beat literally everybody and avenged both his losses with KO's he wasnt really involved in any wars like some of the old fighters i agree,all round skill-wise hes top 10 for me,just my opinion

No they are not..But im a Tyson fan so my views will be biased as a muthafuker but least i tell y'all in advance.... At least a few of em are imo. I go with the second but I second the first comment. To me head to head is a whole differnt animal. Would Joe Louis crumbled under the pressuer of Tyson? Could Ali have used his jab to keep Tyson at bay and frustrated him? Would Joe Frazier be able to take the punishment of Tyson and land something big of his own? Woudl Foreman be able to knock Tyson before Tyson could KO big George? These are some question I would love to see answered but unfortuantely we can only speculate. I truly think Foreman and Ali would have given tyson alot of trouble. I think tyson would dispose of both Joe's Louis and Frazier.....Lefty

I would say the answer is no. I think the end of Mike Tyson's career tarnished his entire career and it makes people believe that he was less of a fighter. I think prime Mike Tyson beats a lot of the guys on that list.

Muhammad Ali - Beats Tyson easily Joe Frazier - Even money fight George Foreman - See Foreman Vs. Frazier I Larry Holmes - Holmes wins a solid decision in a good fight Joe Louis - Louis by mid to late rounds stoppage Rocky Marciano - Even money fight Sonny Liston - See Foreman Vs. Frazier I Jack Johnson - Johnson by close decision in a boring fight Gene Tunney - Tunney a Light-Heavyweight so skip Jack Dempsey - Even money fight Poet Good post.

I can agree with you that some of them are above Tyson but Vitali on the list, cannot agree with you on that, both he and Lennox (I wont train for fights) would have been tune up fighters for the past greats. Did you see how soggy lennox was against vitali and some others out there? (Hated the gym) prime for prime lewis beats tyson,he is top 10 all time easily

No, some people thnk tyson is overrated because he got KO'd in every fight he lost, but that was when he was past his prime, and that makes him underated. Take tyson before he went to jail, he only lost too douglas because he did not prepae well, in fact he won even against douglas, because of the long count douglas got. Muhammad Ali, could be greather but by far nor so exicting Joe Frazier Got greater heart, stamina, but not same power and speed. Frazier may have got a better chin, but not by far, because mikes chin is also underrated. they are even too me George Foreman, greater because he made a succesfull comeback after his prime Larry Holmes, not so exciting, and fought in a weak era, could have been the same result if tyson fought a prime holmes Joe Louis maybe greater in his era, difficult too say because boxing has changed since Rocky Marciano, overated, good heavyweight, but dis not fought much of the prime top fighters, tyson speed and power might have been too much for him Sonny Liston, powerfull but very beatable Jack Johnson, haven't seen him fight Gene Tunney, haven't seen him fight Jack Dempsey taylor made for tyson, too wild. maybe tyson is top 5 in the list

Muhammad Ali - Yes Joe Frazier - Yes George Foreman - Yes Larry Holmes- Yes Joe Louis- Yes Rocky Marciano - Yes Sonny Liston -No Jack Johnson -Yes Gene Tunney- No Jack Dempsey - Yes _____________

not to sound like an asshole BUT in their primes, i think Tyson COULD have beaten any of those listed. At the same time, i think any of them COULD have beaten tyson as well. Boxing is funny like that isnt it? ;)

every one of those fighters deserves to be ranked higher than tyson in the ATG stakes, imo they all did more throughout their careers and faced a higher level of comp, came back from adversity, showed courage and showed that they could come back from a loss. tyson imo didn't do any of these things. but if the majority of these guys were to meet tyson in his prime i think only ali, holmes and foreman would beat him . marciano, louis and liston might have some suiccess but imo tyson would have a good chance of beating the rest.

I'd say they all were more accomplished Heavyweight champs that Tyson. If we are talking about Prime for Prime matches, then i think Tyson could only beat 2 or 3 of them. Tyson's prime was very short so we'll never know if he had what it takes. Plus he didn't face anyone of note in that time really.

Do you mean better than in the sense that "who would win a prime on prime matchup" or "who should be rated higher"? In relation to the former, I think Tyson definately loses to Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Louis, Marciano and Liston. The others are pretty close fights, maybe slight favouritism to Tyson in each case. In relation to the latter, I think yeah, they are all probably more accomplished HW champs than Mike.

No. I can see Tyson beating a few of those guys.

They all had better careers than Tyson. It's unfair to compare them head to head, the training/technique improved over the years and if the old fighters had the same they would have been greater.