prime de la hoya would have been a major problem for any top ww. one of the best jabs and left hooks ive ever seen.. i would favor him over any of todays top ww and jr mw. that includes mayweather, pacquiao, and cotto.
yeah i mean, i didnt expect mayweather to dominate like he did, i expected him to fight a boring fight to get the ud, but he showed he is still capable of putting on the great performances he did when he was a LW..DLH really took him somewhat out of his comfort zone that he was in with SSM and most other opponents
yeah, but im referring to how they measured up against mayweather. and de la hoya being a part time fighter makes what he did with mayweather even more impressive. the point im trying to make is he did damn good against someone as brilliant as floyd, and we cant take that away from him. in my book how floyd has dismantled everyone hes faced in his 3 fights since de la hoya is a sign at how good oscar was when he fought floyd. and yeah they had different trainers with different gameplans, but in the end it all comes down to the fighters ability to execute that gameplan, and if it doesnt work then adapt. im sure nazim richardson had a great gameplan with mosley, but at the end of the day look at the outcome.
agreed on pacquiao boxing a masterpiece, but im not sure of whats true or not, ive heard freddy roach said that de la hoya had ivs in his dressing room before the fight because his corner was trying to rehydrate him, he weighed in at 145 and came into the fight at 145 as well
i caught it live, it was my last weekend before deployment, and i caught the press conference in san fran too..and i talked to roach, nacho, arum, joel de la hoya, and a brief word with oscar. and i thought that oscar would have made it more competitive, but it was complete domination
its really ignorant to talk bad about DLH's resume. He fought almost every big name of his generation. And most were prime undefeated fighters, and he always put on a great competitive fight, well except with Pacquiao. but he deffinately deserves respect for the competition he has faced
people are counting mosley out to early, i mean dont get me wrong..mayweather is a great defensive fighter, but look at what happened when he fought de la hoya, the fight appeared to the judges as if de la hoyas flurries had mayweather on the defensive, now if an old de la hoya could do that then a still energetic well conditioned mosley surely can as well..this fight is a toss up for me
The fact is that nowadays to beat May/Pac in a round you must clearly win the round..even rounds will always fall to May and Pac..several rounds in this fight that could go either way were all given to May. The only rounds the judges gave Cotto were the ones he clearly won while May gets the nod on all of the close rounds. And fans have now gotten so used to it that they've even started scoring rounds for May and Pac that neither fighter really stands out. Its almost a given that if somebody doesn't clearly beat them in a round that the round will go to them.
well like i said ive boxed before, and i have recently too just not like in a serious competition..i mean i can emulate styles, and ive boxed guys that out weigh me by 50-60 lbs and take their best shots fine..yeah ive been rattled by punches but never enough to knock me down or hurt me bad
yeahh ive seen all that stuff..i mean the thing that im wondering is it too late for me to catch up with the kids that have been doing this since they were 2..ive done it on and off, and i probably know alot more about the sport than any of them..also i am naturally a righty but i prefer fighting in a southpaw stance
yeah, like my life right now is boxing, even though im not an active fighter..as a marine corps poolee right now we do alot of shit that helps alot with fighting..most marines dont understand the difference between boxing and fighting but i do..ive spent probably 13 years of my life following the sport..just like normal people follow football, i follow boxing..its just something my family raised me into..my dad and grandfather were both boxers aswell as my grandfather on my mothers side
mike tyson, oscar de la hoya, ricky hatton, arturo gatti, floyd mayweather, bernard hopkins, sugar shane, miguel cotto and antonio margarito to tell him he's not the best welterweight in the world
margarito SD shane
hatton or money may TKO pac (whoever gets him first)
oscar UD margarito at 154
w. klitschko KO povetkin & arreola
v. klitschko KO haye
jmm SD pac
cotto UD margarito
sets up
money may vs. oscar 2
(too much $$$ involved for there not to be a rematch)
why do so many people have to hate on de la hoya?
the dude is single handedly carrying the sport right now..and still we get ignorant people continuously talking about the "crossdressing pictures" that were proved FAKE. you guys who constantly bring it up are just pathetic people that are jealous of de la hoyas wealth, influence, talent, and most of all the fact that he's married to a gorgeous chick and you losers have to stay at home all night on the computer with Palmela Handerson.
margarito isnt really a marketable fighter, so hes not going to get any fights if he expects over $4mil+ per fight..i personally think hes waiting to see the outcome of DLH vs PAC and then if DLH wins he'll call him out for a May showdown..and i strongly believe oscar will accept it and not just beat him, but DOMINATE him if they fight.. margarito is a technically amatuerish fighter..and i believe even at this age, DLH will still school him possibly even win by late tko
Golden Boy Promotions makes AMAZING contracts compared to King, and Arum. King ive heard took up to 50% on Tyson fights, and cut into Tyson's purse. There is a reason so many fighters go to Golden Boy Promotions, even Mayweather said Golden Boy works out good deals..so i dont know why all you people in this thread are complaining.
idk about that, i think that Mayweather and De La Hoya see what an amatuerish boxer Margarito really is, and both know they can easily cruise to a decision