I think this fight should be made because there both young hungry champions and it would be a unification bout, I know this is a dangerous fight for williams because of the 1 punch power of cintron, but I think williams could knock out cintron in the later rounds, I still question cintrons chin, So Id say Williams by Tko10, I dont think his chin would hold up for 12 rounds with williams punch output speed and his constant pressure, unless cintron gets a early knockout.
It might be the only fight out there for both of them. Who wants to fight either of them right now? High risk, low reward. If they fight, the winner could make a case for the better known fighters in the division. Citron isn't gong to get Mosely. Williams isn't going to get Cotto. Mayweather isn't touching either of them (Money, he'd say, but both are dangerous), and DLH is looking for someone who'll stand in front of him.
What other choice do they have?
Margarito has a Iron chin and williams gets more tkos than kos, walter has bad defense so dont jump the gun on cintron, Williams has the speed punch output and reach to beat any WW.
True, but if Margarito got started earlier, he might have got to him. Some of the shots he landed did real damage, it just wasn't enough to overcome the punch output.
Personally, I had the Margarito - Williams fight very close. I scored it for Williams, but only by two rounds. I also think that Cotto could destroy Williams, and would put Citron up as the favorite if they fought.
Here are the Welter fights I'd want to see most:
Mayweather - Any top Welterweight.
Not because I like his style, but only because, if he's as good as he seems, I'd like to witness the legacy he could create. If, and it's a big if to me, Mayweather ran the table on the current crop of Welter's, over the next three years, then he could legitimately be place amongst the greatest of all time.
The only problem, and perhaps the most frustrating thing about the guy, is he probably won't do it.
i do believe fighting margarito would be the easy way out for cotto, mosley would school mosley, maybe not i could be wrong, mosley would have to box for 12 hard rds at this stage of his career im not sure if he could do that
Margarito could win a fight against Cotto.
PBF was until he retired.
Right now there is no clear #1 but I believe the winner of the Margarito/Williams vs Cotto fight will be universally thought of as the #1 guy unless PBF un-retires.
True, everyone has some questions that need to be answered. That's what makes the Welterweights so interesting right now.
This does show how effective you can be in a fight with just a few months of ground training. Just becoming familiar with a few submissions and spending some time working on positions will give you a HUGE advantage in a fight when your opponent has never done any ground training.
Or how ineffective you can be if you don't gain a cursory knowledge of the ground game. Mercer actually put himself into the hold! I just watched the "fight" on you tube. Nothing landed flush, the "strikes" from both sides were wild and ineffective, and the fight ended with a headlock.
It wasn't even kind of exciting. Kimbo's going to need a lot of work to compete in the UFC, Pride or any of the other MMA Organizations, and he definitely wouldn't make it as a boxer. He'd be a poor mans Shannon Briggs at best!
As for Ray Mercer? Well, at his age he's just a poor man's Ray Mercer, and lets not forget that while he did have a couple of great fights against name fighters, that was when he was in his prime, and his decline in Boxing was swift.
Yeah. That was a great shot. Castillo was looking pretty old though.
Yeah, and it takes away from the victory a bit. I'd like to see Hatton at Welterweight against any of the names in the division.
Since Floyd is retired, I think the winner of Margarito/Williams should be considered the #1 welterweight in the world.
Um, no. They'd need to see Cotto, Mosley, and even Super Zab (who isn't finished IMO) about that. I'm not so sure that either of those two beat Zab, I can see Williams getting a win on Cotto, Margarito would, IMO, get beat by Cotto . . . and then you have Mosley, who, if he met any of them inside a year and a half could beat all the youngsters with the exception of, maybe, PBF.
So, um, yeah . . . I kinda disagree.
As boxing fans, what have you accepted Hattons style of clinching and punching as acceptable? I give him all the credit he deserves but I hate that style of fighting. Ur opininons.................:boxing:
Sure, but I like Cotto's, Margarito, Calzaghe, B-Hop, Barrera, and Manny Pac's better. Much, much better.
Why would Hatton want to fight him?
Good question. I like Williams a lot, but Hatton has a great fan base and is in a great position to take a bigger money fight than a fight with Paul Williams would be. I'd love to see it, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
shut the fuck up that bullsit wasnt impressive. why does the fucking ref allow hatton to hold so fucking much. all he does is bulldog and hold his opponents arms then hits him. BULLSHIT!
The clinch has been around forever, so nothing new there. Hatton has impressive core strength, that was evident by how easy it was for him to bull Castillo around. I'd agree that his style isn't the most exciting thing to watch, but it was a good win against a name fighter, who looked like he's finished.
woa that was cool
Mayweather was my #1
Me too. It's hard not to go with him in the majority of the match-ups. I think that Mosley could beat him, and gave him the nod, but Floyd still came out on top for me.
Floyd
Mosley
Cotto
Ray Mercer tried his hand at mixed martial arts this weekend. The result? He's sticking with boxing.
The former WBO world heavyweight champion and Olympic gold medalist lost to noted street fighter Kimbo Slice in Atlantic City, N.J., this weekend in a fight that lasted just 1:12. Mercer submitted to Slice's guillotine choke hold.
"I walked right into his trap," Mercer said, according to the Philadelphia Daily News. "It was like I put my head in his armpit and said, 'Go ahead, choke me.' From now on, I'm sticking to boxing. I can't get choked out in boxing."
Mercer, 46, hasn't fought in the boxing ring since losing in seven rounds to Shannon Briggs in August 2005 in Hollywood, Fla.
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=2915599
I guess Boxers should stick to the sport boxing and let the fighters do the fighting. Kinda sad but true...
Let it go, brother. He'll still be a 48 year old shell of himself in Boxing too. You are really putting too much on the Kimbo - Mercer fight.
Here is a contest from Bix, with the idea being to pick who wins in each of the head 2 head matchups. If anyone was left out let me know, and I'll add them in. I focused on Welterweights.
Go to this contest on Bix
Also, post your top 3!
Fight Mosley. The biggest fight that can be made in boxing besides for a DLH rematch. It shouldnt be that difficult. Split it 60-40, and do the damn thing already. The Cotto fight could be something huge, so you have to wait it out and hope that Miguel can beat Margarito.
If I had to guess, I would say that is what Floyd is probably doing, because IF Cotto can get by the winner of Williams - Margarito, the money would be huge. Not quite DLH huge, but big nonetheless.
Besides the biggest money fight that can be made right now, imo, is DLH v Cotto. That fight could do some serious damage in PPV sales.
he is great the greatest fighter of his generation..I know it hurts but deal with it.:banana:
He has proven himself, I'd agree, but I still want to see him against a few of the current Welterweights before I can definitively appoint him as the greatest of his generation. His career just feels unfinished to me. Maybe it's because he's going out after beating Oscar, who is clearly the most popular fighter with the casual boxing fan, but not necessarily the best out there.
Let me be clear, I think that PBF beats anyone out there, and no one can convince me otherwise until someone proves it. There are some tough fights out there for him, and I would pay to see any one of them. not because I love watching PBF, but because as a boxing fan I have too, right?
1st Fight was Great but id really rather see Cotto move on and beat other champions and top fighters. If it was High risk Low reward its even more so this time around!
I agree with everything you say! True fans, or most of them, probably don't want this fight. But Money talks . . .
I just don't know if I believe the buy rate claim. On the one hand, that is a lot more than I would've guessed, but if it's true then I'm elated. Finally this whole "Boxing is Dead" claim that's been coming from the MMA set can begin to be put to rest.
Most knowledgeable boxing fans know that the fighter makes the belt, not the other way around. However, which governing body do you believe has the better boxers out of the current crop of champions?
If you need to brush up see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigning_boxing_champions
WBC, then IBF
there's no reason for them to have a rematch, cotto needs to fight the other top fighters of that division
Well, with the impression that most fight fans were left with after the fight, I can see two reasons for this to happen. 1. Money - If the fight did as many buys as they say, what are the possibilities of an event in Puerto Rico? 2. A lot of people believe that, after the low blows, Cotto still needs to prove something over Zab.
Will Zab win? Probably not. As a fight fan do I want to see this fight more than a fight against Margarito or even Paul Williams? Not really.
But in the end Prize Fighting is about money, and a rematch of Cotto-Judah has the potential to be much bigger than any fight not including DLH or PBF for Cotto. Outside of this forum, I don't think the casual fan knows enough about any of the other, and perhaps more worthy, opponents.
I think Judah wins this rematch by KO, setting the stage for a rubbermatch that might not make any PPV records, but it'll go down as being comparable to any great fights in the last 10 years or so, with the exception of only a few.
Judah is perfectly capable of beating Cotto if he keeps his hands working. He's faster, has great power, more ring experience, and enough cash to buy a stainless-steel cup. Or maybe he'll just have his balls bronzed before the fight. Anyway, I think he had it in his head that he was going to KO Cotto early, and just didn't come into the ring in the shape he needed to be in. I don't believe he'll make that mistake again.
Interesting point. Zab may have felt that he could get an early KO, but he fades a lot. Remember, he said that in the early round he was dropping grenades on Floyd, but in the end lost steam. IMO, Zab can't handle pressure fighters, that is what Cotto did, and when Floyd took over their fight his only change was to pressure Zab.
BTW, PBF v Zab was a good fight.
I would like to see mosley-mayweather, hatton is a dumb fight for mayweather in my opinion outside of money. If he wants legacy he needs to fight mosley while mosley can still fight and not in a year or two. Or the winner of margarito-williams would be nice to
Yeah, Mosely would be great. I think Cotto has a line on Margarito if he gets past Williams tho . . .
I want to see Salita fight Malignaggi or maybe even Hatton, but he says he wants to wait four more fights and then challenge somebody big like Ricky.
I would also like to see Mayweather vs Mosley
Salita could do well against Malignaggi, not so sure about him going after Hatton.