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Are you stupid? what makes beating Pac so good that you are crowned GOAT??? Do you even know boxing and its past legends? Or are you just a noob hoping on the Floyd/Pac train???:spank: If Pac and Floyd fought 4 times and Floyd had NEVER lost to Pac until Pac floors him in the last fight, which Floyd happened to be winning, would that mean "Oh pac is better than Floyd, see"??? Are yall idiots??? Please hush up Yeow! Butthurt alert! I didn't see that, I saw Marquez get robbed 3 times before justice was finally served with an ice-cold straight right.

There's no other sport that f*cks with a man's head like boxing does. You should watch Kabbadi. That sh1t ****s you up.

Manny didn't load up on a single punch on Saturday night. That's why he had the speed and the connect, but not the power. Why? Probably confidence, wanting to take it easy as his first fight back, and realizing after Marquez 4, he doesn't need to go looking for the KO.

No, he's not the beat fighter of the last 20 years. He is an ATG though, but his legacy will always be tarnished by not stepping up to the biggest competition until late in his career. I agree he beat everyone put in front of him, but I get the sense his team didn't really feel he could beat the great American middleweights, until he took apart Kessler with ease, but it's too late by then. He may have a much stronger legacy if he'd been in the mix at his prime.

Mike Tyson was at one point the most well known athlete and easily one of the 3-5 most recognized people on the planet. Can't get any better than that. This is true. My good old Mrs couldn't pick Floyd Mayweather out of a line-up, although she knows the name and realises he's the best fighter on the planet, but even my 80 year old Nan knows who Mike Tyson is. I can't think of any other boxer my 80 year old nan would be aware of, except perhaps Ali.

Lebron or Kobe? haha! outside of America they're basically unknown. Most people in the UK have never heard of them. America is not the world... This! I have heard of Kobe, I heard he got accused of rape but that's as far as my knowledge goes. Never heard of Lebron. Sports fan from an English speaking country, you'd think I should have heard of them. "Most recognisable athletes at the last Olympics in China"? First off, the last Olympics were in London, last year, secondly, I've no idea how you would measure that, and thirdly, shouldn't that title belong to Usain Bolt??

Haye vs Thompson. Haye was beating him all round the ring, but ran out of gas trying to finish him off!

fight wasn't that bad, watched it a couple of times, good technical boxing going on, same with rigo-donaire both guys were looking for a ko punch, wlad took it because he is just in the habit of jabbing, while haye isn't, so obviously wlad built up the points i think the real idiots are the people that were expecting haye to go for broke and just flurry like a retard(land nothing more than likely) get tired, get his brain rattled a couple of times before finally succumbing to a brutal ko or even wlad for that matter, both said they were going for the ko, and as far as it looked both looked for it, just not in a retard like fashion which would have them lose due to fatigue(both guys have terrible stamina, but who in the heavy division doesn't?) This......

are you really comparing manny fighting rios who isnt even top 5 at 140 at ww to floyd moving up and fighting the unified undefeated ring champ at 154? Tell me you are joking *152......

Your 1st point is just pointless and retarded, I think you added it to try and annoy me but failed miserably. I am discussing directly with you, I never said Marquez was on steroids, and you bringing up the KO just means you can't argue your point across correctly because it's gibberish you're spouting. Your 2nd point is just dumb, your agenda is showing, you also do not know how much blood is taken, you've never had it taken in the same way they do I can bet. I've had my blood taken for a simple illness and they took a hefty amount for multiple tests, more is better than less in the example of blood. Your 3rd point you are ignoring what I said and simply making a joke about it to sway your own view point. I said some bodies react badly to having blood taken, that is 100% truthful, and I also said it is logical because our bodies often have defense mechanisms to keep us alive, i.e. not wanting blood taken. How about you learn physiology or reply to what I directly say? 4th point, all speculation, absolutely no proof once more - good job kiddo, made yourself look stupid again. Answer me this do you not believe having blood taken can weaken an individuals body? Can you not see the common sense in it? Why would he want to feel week for the most important fight he will ever have? I'll await your answer. You ask me to form my own opinion, but the only opinion you seem to have are the excuses we were all fed by Roach and co at the time. Excuses that changed daily, were inconsistent, nonsensical sometimes, and frequently contradicted each other. And why should I provide proof to back up my points when you haven't provided any? No I do not think the minuscule amount of blood required to be drawn (less than a tablespoon according to USADA website) would have a negative effect on performance. Certainly not from 14 days prior. You could argue I suppose that very close to the fight it may have a physcological effect I suppose. But let's assume good old Pacquiao was telling the truth about all of this all along. He's afraid of needles. Blood taken weakens him. How come then, he's quite happy to have blood taken NOW?? In one of the most important fights of his career?! Wake up FFS. The cut off asked for to try and prevent a positive test, nothing more. Seriously, if the best you can do as a counter argument is to keep telling me I'm dumb and I'm making myself look stupid then that's very weak and reeks of the kind of ******* logic that has polluted this forum for too long.

The first bolded statement makes you stupid, just because someone does something you don't believe is possible doesn't mean it isn't real and isn't legit, you're exactly the same as Floyd, you have zero proof but your own biased agenda. Your second statement is again, stupid. Pacquaio had to give blood on the day of the fight when he fought Morales the first time, he said it weakened him and took away his energy, his body did not respond well to having blood taken from his. Now, go be a good kid and go ask a doctor why do some bodies react badly to having blood taken and others not and he will explain to you. It is 100% a legit reason, he did not want to potentially weaken himself for one of the biggest fights in boxing history and the biggest of his career. I have had my blood taken and for days after I felt weak and quite frankly sick, it's a physiological reaction to your body saying "don't do that, blood is not supposed to be taken away from me", which makes perfect sense considering blood is vital for survival and life and taking it away eventually leads to death. As a final note, go and ask a doctor or someone else with a degree in physiology and they will tell you it is perfectly normal and acceptable to feel weakened heavily after taking blood. Heck, some people even feint from having it taken, just learn to read and think for yourself and not have Floyd do it for you. 1-" just because someone does something you don't believe, doesn't mean it isn't real and legit..." Kind of like Marquez's KO of Pacquiao, then? Doesn't stop you pac fanboys contradicting yourselves though does it? Assuming, making your own judgements that Marquez must have been juicing, because you can't handle the reality of what happened. And that's waaaay more legit to me. Same size fighters, fought 3 times before, Marquez studied him perfectly, knew what he had to do, trained for the KO, and hit him with the exact shot he intended. 2-I suggest you go be a good kid an ask a chemist how long steriods take to clear the body and how, if you know exactly when the test is going to be taken, you can easily pass as clear. Once you've done that, compare it to your dumbass, pac-ballsack-gargling theory about Pacqiauo being too weak to take part in the biggest fight of all time, because he had a miniscule amount of blood taken 14 days ago. 3-Yes because we all know the body shuts down after having a bit of blood taken. Everyone who has blood drawn dies. That's how it works. 4-This is my opinion. I simply quoted Floyd as I felt he hit the nail on the head. It's nothing new for fighters to ascend weight classes and win, but the manner in which he did so made me suspicious. The request for a cut-off period, Ariza's magic shakes 'He has no idea what he takes', and Pacquiao's huge slump in performance once the heat became uncomfortable is ultimately what formed my opinion. Stop hanging on to the same lame excuses Pacquaio and his camp gave us at the time. Quite frankly it's embarrassing and the fact you and the rest of his fan boys now have the nerve to point the finger at Marquez is sheer hypocrisy. "Manny doesn't like needles..." lol what the f@ck. He seems to be fine with it now though, doesn't he??

I love it how you assume the person who has never tested positive for an illegal substance somehow must be on drugs because he denied Floyds demands. Fighting Brandon Rios isn't the same as fighting Mayweather, he's obviously doing it now more than anything to say simply remove the idea that he's ever been on steroids and to take away floyds dumb roadblock. One of the complaints going around is that Mayweather has no right to dictate something that isn’t protocol for no reason. He 'claims' he's doing it in an attempt to clean up the sport but the only reason he's ever brought it up is in regards to Pacquaio. Floyd targeted the olympic style testing in an attempt to weaken Pacquaio as he has been documented years before previously as being weakened by it, he wanted a mental and/or physical advantage over him. The only major positive is that olympic style testing compares blood from previous years to the fighters current blood, but there would only be 1 fight (maybe 2), so using olympic style testing was just bogus and pointless, another demand which held no weight... the difference is Floyd wanted olympic style (it has no current place in professional boxing) where as Pacquaio is using VADA with Rios if I remember, it's complete different. 1- Not because he refused Floyds demands, because he requested a specific cut off date. A cut off date that coincidentally would allow someone using PED's to pass a drugs test. If he'd just flat-out refused, I wouldn't be as suspicious. And he should have done, rather than come out with a load of excuses. This would have been easier though, had Mayweather been straight from the start and said 'I believe manny Pacquiao may be using steroids so in order to agree to a fight I require drug testing.' The reason he got away with his version is because boxing is basically unregulated as far as drugs are concerned and everyone knows this should have happened years ago. 2- I totally agree. How much of this was to gain an advantage in the ring, or just playing awkward because he was jealous Pacquiao was taking his place as the top dog I don't know. I do think Floyd was a little scared, who wouldn't be? Pacquiao was a beast back then and if I had to put money on it I'd have sided with Pac. I couldn't see Floyd beating the Pac that beat Cotto. However I do believe at that time Pacquiao was using something to enhance his performance.

Was manny on PED's? I had my suspicions before the Floyd negotiations, like Floyd said you don't just go walking through world-class fighters two weight classes above you. The thing that sealed it for me was the request for a cut-off period. Why would anyone want that unless they were on PED's? And don't go giving me any sh1t about 'needles drain me' or whatever boll0cks excuse was used at the time. Imagine it was a 100m sprinter requesting a cut off period. You'd have no doubt.

You are really an idiot and thick skinned mofo. Everybody knows Floyd is ducking Pac just like when he faked his retirement to duck prime younger Cotto, Mosley and Margarito. There are tons of videos out there straight from the horse mouth supporting his ducking moves. He even admitted on video he cherry picked all his fights to his advantages and if his opponent has the chance of beating him he will do everything to avoid this fight. I guess that didn't happen as well. He even knelled to Pac, paid Pac for the damages he caused because of the wrongful accusation and declared him a great champion never been on PED. LMAO! There is no point of talking to this black bean size brain idiot. What is so good about Floyd? Pac accomplished more impossible feats than your coward boy who fought only 4 times in 6 years. Pac has Nike, HP and Hennessy vs Floyd lame soda. You dare to compare Pas status vs Floyd? Pac is a congressman to his country while your coward boy was an ex-convict. He was put in prison after he beat the mother of his children in front of them. When his children tried to stop him beating their mother, your idol threatened to kill his own children. Do that to your wife in the Philippines, her relatives will remove your skin while you alive. Or eat your dog.

I feel like only boxing noobs and 12 year olds use this word "exposed" to these uneducated types of people who know nothing about boxing, any time a fighter loses a fight, he is 'exposed'. We shouldn't even call them losses or have a win/lose column we should call them exposures. TALE OF THE TAPE, he is the fighting pride of Miami, Florida, with 17 wins, 14 by way of knockout, and only 3 Exposures! I mean it's ridiculous I don't think people do mean losses when the say 'exposed'. If they do, they shouldn't. Nobody claims JMM or Hopkins have been exposed, and they have like, what, 10 losses between them? Exposed should be reserved for the hype jobs, the next big thing in the division, who then gets taken apart by someone they were expected to beat. There have been a few of those.

Lots of 'If's' and 'I thinks' in there Lennox. If I was TT i'd be aiming at Price's neck.

You're a stiff idiot for rationalizing the stiff idiot winning a fight he was clearly never cut out for. Offering up 3-1 odds on Price winning. LMAO. You Brits are so blinded by nationality that you couldn't make a fair judgement of one of your fighters if you lives depended on it. Frpm a country that has brought us Deontay Wilder and Seth Mitchell you'd do well to shut your trap.

From a country that has brought us Deontay Wilder and Seth Mitchell you'd do well to shut your trap.

Because he was another over hyped heavyweight hopeful. Tony Thompson wouldn't win jack s**t in the 70's or the 90's, he'd be a contender, sure. But this just shows David Price was another over hyped Brit, who was good at domestic level early on, no offense. There's plenty like that at heavyweight in the US too. S**t, I was high on Price early on too. Can't wait for Scott vs Chisora. Still butthurt over Jeff Lacy?

He loves the c0ck

Haye vs anyone

Well let's see what Brook does after this, considering his history am not getting my hopes up. Khan should promise Kell the fight so he sidesteps Porter, then delay on signing the contract, put up a poll on his twitter account, let Kell win the poll, and end up fighting someone like Soto Karass instead.

Good vid dude. I like the way you focused on the highs and the lows. Such a talent, I'm glad I grew up as a kid when he was in his prime. He used to scare the **** out of me. I remember being about 7 or 8 when he stopped Bruno, the whole of the country was behind frank, but he just looked tiny in comparison. Tyson was so strong and vicious, like an animal- no wonder so many people were beat before the bell sounded.

I wish Khan would stay out of my gym. When he's in there there's no weights left for anyone else. Seriously Khan probably was avoided by Bradley, but that's about it. Bradley then went on to fight Pacquiao, so it doesn't really hold true. Khan now is avoided because he's seen as a bit of a joke unfortunately. Khan really needs a solid win on his resume to get back to where he was. A rematch with Pederson would be a good place to start. He had the beating of Garcia if he'd just been more sensible. Until that left hook Garcia was taking a beating, and that left hook came with Garcia's head facing away and his eyes closed. I like Danny but to win in the style he did was more luck than judgement. Khan needs to forget Brook (high risk-low reward) and really take out a high profile opponent. He never should have passed up Devon.

Speed? Pacquaio. However May's lead right is much better timed and hence nearly always lands flush.

FFS people are seriously saying he shouldn't have picked Collazo, on the Mayweather undercard, and should have fought Brook in the UK?? How is that a better option? Its not a better fight or career move just because it's the fight you would prefer to see. Collazo coming off big win + well known fighter + decent resume + former WW champ + mayweather undercard vs Brook who has fought Senchenko and creaked past Carson Jones, and even people in the UK have trouble remembering he's a boxer and not Kelly Brook the fit model. Seriously you guys fu77king crack me up sometimes.

Manny would have banged Miss Jackson so hard she'd of begged him to stop and keep going at the same time. Too bad she ended up with Floyd's little maggot wiener.

Hopefully it won't be an Apollo Creed ending

I can't find it now, but the Manny bobsled one was hilarious

No one is ever good enough for Floyd. You guys talk all this sh^t, then turn around and say... "he ducked margarito" a slow flat footed fighter. "he ducked Paul williams"=flat footed, no foot work. If he beat him, it just would've been... "well, he had no footwork/movement anyway" same with margarito. They said he was scared of Canelo. He then treats Canelo like a kid. Now its Canelo wasnt that good or the 152 thing. Canelo then beats the living sh^t out of Angulo, the man who floored Lara twice and damn near beat him except he got injured. Look at the fight night weigh-ins. These guys have been coming into the fight weighing over 165 lbs. Dude has been beating middle/super middle weights man, And he barely can weigh over 150. Hell, he was only 149 in the oscar fight and they marked it as 150(listen to post fight interview) and how much did oscar weigh? These guys dont just walk through him and he's always the much smaller man on fight night. Thats equal to him on fight night weighing 147 and fighting a 130 pounder. Everyone would call him a bully and say why are you fighting these little guys. But in reality its like he's the 130 pounder fighting the guy thats 147 and he's making them look like amateurs and like they dont belong in there with him. So how good does that 130 guy really have to be to consistently school 147 pounders? Why would you not give the 130 guy respect? This has been going on for many years man. When is it going to end. ^ Pretty much this. Doesn't matter who Floyd beats, and how easily he beat them, there is always someone else he should've fought.