Manny demanding PED testing : guilty conscious maybe ?

You are really an idiot and thick skinned mofo. Everybody knows Floyd is ducking Pac just like when he faked his retirement to duck prime younger Cotto, Mosley and Margarito. There are tons of videos out there straight from the horse mouth supporting his ducking moves. He even admitted on video he cherry picked all his fights to his advantages and if his opponent has the chance of beating him he will do everything to avoid this fight. I guess that didn't happen as well. He even knelled to Pac, paid Pac for the damages he caused because of the wrongful accusation and declared him a great champion never been on PED. LMAO! There is no point of talking to this black bean size brain idiot. Blah blah, blah...your way of debating is lying, throwing out opinions, taking things out of context to suit your weak ass argument, while ignoring the facts. He knelled to Pac huh? Why am I even wasting my time trying to debate a moron who can't even spell the word kneeled or use it in a proper sentence? I probably look as stupid as you are in real life doing so. What is so good about Floyd? Pac accomplished more impossible feats than your coward boy who fought only 4 times in 6 years. Pac has Nike, HP and Hennessy vs Floyd lame soda. You dare to compare Pas status vs Floyd? Pac is a congressman to his country while your coward boy was an ex-convict. He was put in prison after he beat the mother of his children in front of them. When his children tried to stop him beating their mother, your idol threatened to kill his own children. Do that to your wife in the Philippines, her relatives will remove your skin while you alive. 4-6 times, w/ better competition than Pac, better draw, better record, more PPV, and much more earnings fighting at least 2 fighters at a time when Pac wouldn't even dare dream of fighting them(Cotto, Canelo). What good have all those endorsements and the guy that has noneis still making double or triple what you make? Yes, and Pac was the laughing stock of the Philippines for having baby w/ a hooker while married to Jinkey, embarrassed on National TV as his wife was filmed crying at church as the priest preached about infidelity, possibly an ex shabu head (meth), Gambling addict. To be honest though, I give a rats nutz about either one of their lives outside the ring. Pac is a congressman, you're right about that. He received recognitition just recently for being the congressman with the worst attendance record, not to mention was accused of beating up a barangay captain when he tried to stop him his people from buying votes. I live in the Philippines, so save that mess, ok? All you have to do is have a name and money and you can be a Congressman. Hell, the ex dictator wife who stole billions of dollars and bankrupted the Philippines is a Congresswoman as well. Says a lot, huh? Their son is a senator and daughter (who had people killed for embarrassing her) was a governor. Why would I do that to my wife, I love my wife. I doubt her relatives would do anything though, they are all busy being jealous of the thing she has( kinda like u w/ Floyd) :fing02:

I mean the perceived connection . Perceived by floydiots is what you mean.

Yes, and such is his devotion to the notion that he struggles to comprehend why Pac would want testing. I guess he had a similar struggle when Mayweather asked for a catchweight. Nothing is as Reloaded believed it to be so he's trying to make sense of it all - unfortunately by creating new theories instead of waking up to the truth staring him the face (but the truth hurts too much). I just hope Manny return to a winning streak and Floyd continue winning. In the future PEDS testing is no issue at all even if it is 365 days round testing and by that time Reloaded can sleep peacefully.

Reloaded until now is still dreaming of Pac using PEDS Yes, and such is his devotion to the notion that he struggles to comprehend why Pac would want testing. I guess he had a similar struggle when Mayweather asked for a catchweight. Nothing is as Reloaded believed it to be so he's trying to make sense of it all - unfortunately by creating new theories instead of waking up to the truth staring him the face (but the truth hurts too much).

Reloaded until now is still dreaming of Pac using PEDS

You are really an idiot and thick skinned mofo. Everybody knows Floyd is ducking Pac just like when he faked his retirement to duck prime younger Cotto, Mosley and Margarito. There are tons of videos out there straight from the horse mouth supporting his ducking moves. He even admitted on video he cherry picked all his fights to his advantages and if his opponent has the chance of beating him he will do everything to avoid this fight. I guess that didn't happen as well. He even knelled to Pac, paid Pac for the damages he caused because of the wrongful accusation and declared him a great champion never been on PED. LMAO! There is no point of talking to this black bean size brain idiot. What is so good about Floyd? Pac accomplished more impossible feats than your coward boy who fought only 4 times in 6 years. Pac has Nike, HP and Hennessy vs Floyd lame soda. You dare to compare Pas status vs Floyd? Pac is a congressman to his country while your coward boy was an ex-convict. He was put in prison after he beat the mother of his children in front of them. When his children tried to stop him beating their mother, your idol threatened to kill his own children. Do that to your wife in the Philippines, her relatives will remove your skin while you alive. Or eat your dog.

Are you retarded? How many times does it have to be said that THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN? Do you really need to lie to prove your argument? The very fact that you need to do so shows how weak it is. Didn't happen either. Floyd ask for zero days. Pac's team said "no problem", then started backpeddling. They backpeddled all the was to 30 days. The only changed it to 24 days because they got caught in a LIE(kinda like you lying right now..birds of a feather, right?). Floyd then compromised and moved to 14 day because HE WANTED THE FIGHT & Pac wouldn't meet in the middle. Pac decided to accept the 14 days only after Floyd said it was off the table. If Pac wanted the fight so much, why would he wait to accept the very same offer? Does that make sense? To you i'm sure it does. Why don't you ask Pac? Maintaining his stance of 24 days when Floyd compromised and moved to 14. He moved back to his original demand of zero days. When you don't accept a deal in business, then lose market share, would that same offer increase or decrease? Common sense! 40 Million is more than Pac has ever made or will makes unless fighting someone names Mayweather. Guess Pac should've accepted 50/50 when it was there, huh? Are you saying this about Pac and Arum, because this is exactly what they are doing? Is it a rediculous demand from them? No one gets a fight w/ Pac without being signed to Top Rank. So your calling yourself an idiot, because I don' see you post ranting about Pac/Arum's garbage. You are really an idiot and thick skinned mofo. Everybody knows Floyd is ducking Pac just like when he faked his retirement to duck prime younger Cotto, Mosley and Margarito. There are tons of videos out there straight from the horse mouth supporting his ducking moves. He even admitted on video he cherry picked all his fights to his advantages and if his opponent has the chance of beating him he will do everything to avoid this fight. I guess that didn't happen as well. He even knelled to Pac, paid Pac for the damages he caused because of the wrongful accusation and declared him a great champion never been on PED. LMAO! There is no point of talking to this black bean size brain idiot. What is so good about Floyd? Pac accomplished more impossible feats than your coward boy who fought only 4 times in 6 years. Pac has Nike, HP and Hennessy vs Floyd lame soda. You dare to compare Pas status vs Floyd? Pac is a congressman to his country while your coward boy was an ex-convict. He was put in prison after he beat the mother of his children in front of them. When his children tried to stop him beating their mother, your idol threatened to kill his own children. Do that to your wife in the Philippines, her relatives will remove your skin while you alive.

What connection to peds? Link?... Or do you mean his assumed connection to peds? They are two different things. I mean the perceived connection .

Ahh another Pac fanboy with nothing to say about the topic at hand , got to create a smokescreen , start a thread about Mannys CWs and I,ll join you , this thread is about Mannys connection to PEDS . What connection to peds? Link?... Or do you mean his assumed connection to peds? They are two different things.

Poor Reloaded .... he can't bring up CWs anymore because his hero Floyd requested another CW, so Reloaded needs to find something else .... PEDs. The way you are discussing PEDs, is that the way you are feeling about yourself and CWs .... guilty or hypocrite? Ahh another Pac fanboy with nothing to say about the topic at hand , got to create a smokescreen , start a thread about Mannys CWs and I,ll join you , this thread is about Mannys connection to PEDS .

Another floydiot new alt. Why all these floydiots and their alts can't understand Floyd did moved his demand from one to another. Are they stupid or idiot? Floyd demanded extra testing, Pac said ok but must have a 30 days cut off. Are you retarded? How many times does it have to be said that THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN? Do you really need to lie to prove your argument? The very fact that you need to do so shows how weak it is. Floyd said no to 30 days but said yes on 14 days and Pac said fvck off but later on agreed to it because Pac really wants to fight Floyd. Didn't happen either. Floyd ask for zero days. Pac's team said "no problem", then started backpeddling. They backpeddled all the was to 30 days. The only changed it to 24 days because they got caught in a LIE(kinda like you lying right now..birds of a feather, right?). Floyd then compromised and moved to 14 day because HE WANTED THE FIGHT & Pac wouldn't meet in the middle. Pac decided to accept the 14 days only after Floyd said it was off the table. If Pac wanted the fight so much, why would he wait to accept the very same offer? Does that make sense? To you i'm sure it does. Now think about if Floyd maintained his stance on 14 days cut off and didn't take the offer if he really wants to fight Pac? Why don't you ask Pac? Maintaining his stance of 24 days when Floyd compromised and moved to 14. but the coward did it and made it impossible for Pac to fight by moving his goal post again to 0 day cut off. He moved back to his original demand of zero days. When you don't accept a deal in business, then lose market share, would that same offer increase or decrease? Common sense! After Pac agreed to 0 day cut off Floyd threw another impossible demand by demanding Pac should not get any ppv share. 40 Million is more than Pac has ever made or will makes unless fighting someone names Mayweather. Guess Pac should've accepted 50/50 when it was there, huh? Now he just threw another ridiculous road block in advance just in case Pac agreed to no ppv share by demanding he must sign up to his promotion. Only the black bean size brain idiot will never see through Floyd's smoke and mirror. Are you saying this about Pac and Arum, because this is exactly what they are doing? Is it a rediculous demand from them? No one gets a fight w/ Pac without being signed to Top Rank. So your calling yourself an idiot, because I don' see you post ranting about Pac/Arum's garbage.

Its stupid to bring up every now and then whose fault it was what have not happened years ago when the fighters are still active not just because it can still happen anytime but because this one will not, let just history judge both fighters when their respective careers are long over and being look upon by future generations and see how history will treat each legacies. if you are still alive by then probably thats the time you can have a go at it.

Top Rank made JMM and Bradley do this. Arum also made Shane sign a contract for 1-2 fights. Of course Shane looked like dung in the fight so Bob figured it was too tough to promote this old and useless Shane.

pretty sure this article says May of 2010. The negotiations and Top Rank walking away took place in November of 2009. After Moseley agreed to the tests and Floyd said no more cutoffs is when Pac came out and agreed.....you're entitled your own opinions, not your own facts. Another floydiot new alt. Why all these floydiots and their alts can't understand Floyd did moved his demand from one to another. Are they stupid or idiot? Floyd demanded extra testing, Pac said ok but must have a 30 days cut off. Floyd said no to 30 days but said yes on 14 days and Pac said fvck off but later on agreed to it because Pac really wants to fight Floyd. Now think about if Floyd maintained his stance on 14 days cut off and didn't take the offer if he really wants to fight Pac? but the coward did it and made it impossible for Pac to fight by moving his goal post again to 0 day cut off. After Pac agreed to 0 day cut off Floyd threw another impossible demand by demanding Pac should not get any ppv share. Now he just threw another ridiculous road block in advance just in case Pac agreed to no ppv share by demanding he must sign up to his promotion. Only the black bean size brain idiot will never see through Floyd's smoke and mirror.

What makes you so convinced that a narcissist who is worth $115 million is clean and without suspicion. What makes you think that he would want to have every edge possible over his opponents?, what makes you so convinced that he isn't using undetectable designer drugs... that skinny wimp olympic tester we saw in 24/7 for the Mosely fight looked very shifty to me, with a very shifty handshake from Ellerbe. Another thing. This so called ''olympic style testing'' in boxing is absolute BS. Testing isn't olympic style these guys are only tested when the fight is announced, they could be doing god knows what outside of camp such as cycling EPO and maintaining their gains for when they reach training camp. All boxers should be tested year round. Oh and another thing he's being tested by USADA who couldn't catch Armstrong for how many years? With the amount of money that the dude has do you really think he couldn't finance his way out of a negative test? Ironic that if USADA is as weak and as "passable" as you claim, then Manny STILL wouldn't have used them...what does that say?

Why would Manny refuse the biggest fight in history because of a PEDs test , then with all the pressure on him about PEDS all of a sudden he starts losing , then he demands PED tests of his opponents . it allures to the notion that he knows the benefits of PEDS meaning he may have been dirty winning his biggest WW matches . Just for fun lets say the circumstantial evidence is all right and Manny was really using PEDS , all of a sudden all the confusion becomes crystal clear . Who really thinks Manny was using PEDS when he refused to be tested in the biggest fight in history , not what you thought back then , what you think now , back then I didn't think so but today Im not so sure . Poor Reloaded .... he can't bring up CWs anymore because his hero Floyd requested another CW, so Reloaded needs to find something else .... PEDs. The way you are discussing PEDs, is that the way you are feeling about yourself and CWs .... guilty or hypocrite?

That KO made Pac change his stance on everything Funny to think Manny cudnt careless about testing not to long ago Floyd was right all along

I agree he is definitely suspect and there is no proof on either side of guilty or not guilty, he could have dispelled it all in a hot second by just by agreeing to be tested like anyone else would for a fight of that magnitude , only Manny himself and some real close people know for sure , its not an easy thing to prove guilt if a guy refuses to be tested unless an informer with proof came forward , not likely to happen and considering his political profile on top of his boxing profile any hard evidence would be shut down before the media got hold of it I would think .Pac is innocent to his fans, but Marquez is guilty, lmao.

He may be suspect, but he has not been caught with PEDs in his system. But you see how fighters are perceived when they are considered suspect, lmao. I agree he is definitely suspect and there is no proof on either side of guilty or not guilty, he could have dispelled it all in a hot second by just by agreeing to be tested like anyone else would for a fight of that magnitude , only Manny himself and some real close people know for sure , its not an easy thing to prove guilt if a guy refuses to be tested unless an informer with proof came forward , not likely to happen and considering his political profile on top of his boxing profile any hard evidence would be shut down before the media got hold of it I would think .

I didn't think he was on PEDS in the beginning , but as time went by and things started to come out and things started changing culminating with Manny now demanding B grade bums the same PEDS test he refused to avoid the biggest fight in history , that last straw from Manny sealed it for me . . If he were using it explains why he refused testing , why he walked through bigger fighters , why his form dropped off , why guys started saying he don't hit hard and then he gets beat twice and knocked out cold , the whole deal concerning PEDs and Manny is a suspicious as fck .He may be suspect, but he has not been caught with PEDs in his system. But you see how fighters are perceived when they are considered suspect, lmao.