is Joe Calzaghe the greatest fighter in the last 20 years?

You dont hear any trainers say "go watch film of Calzaghe this is how you want to fight!" You may however hear a spider expert say "if you ever walk into a massive spider web punch your way out of it like your Joe Calzaghe" ATG spider web destroyer~ That has to count for something right? RIGHT???????

Hes definitely higher than floyd thats for sure. :haha: :haha:

point is, they couldn't whip him when they were all past their prime, but somehow, if they fought in their primes, they would beat Joe? based on what? all three would be better versions of themselves. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Absolutely painful logic. You're acting like "passed prime" is the same for everyone. Calzaghe was closer to his prime than Hopkins an Roy Jones was shot to pieces for crying out loud.

He didn't have big fights according to who? You? Lol. I guess since Joe beat them both on points at the ages they fought, he'd have won earlier as well. Stop pretending Joe was in his prime when he fought Roy and Bernard. He wasn't. Never said joe was prime,,, he may be on the downhill slide but he wasnt shot.... his first really big global fight was vs lacy,, then kessler and then hopkins and jones,,,,, THose are his only blockbuster global fights,,, He fought alot of huge domestic fights vs veit and mitchell but those dont compare to the ones i mentioned,,, jones beat hopkins when both were prime,,, then lost to hopkins when both were shot,,, does that make hopkins better, he beat them when both shot, how come he didnt beat prime jones????? answer that one... Not saying joe was prime when he fought hopkins and jones,, but he was not as faded as those guys,,, hopkins in his 40's cant deal with a busy work rate,, thats how taylor, dawson and joe beat him,,, Jones was a complete shell and shouldnt even gotten the fight....

Joe Calzaghe is an icon.

Calzaghe was good but to say he's the best fighter of the last 20 years is just dumb

I don't think I've ever seen anyone listing Calzaghe as the greatest fighter of any years. For a minute HBO was hyping him up but then they pretty much called the fight for Hopkins and that should have been a great win for him. I kinda like Calzaghe but I'm not willing to say he's a HOF'er much less greatest fighter. He's underrated but their is a reason for that. The level of competition was not that great. His best wins are against faded or hyped up fighters... you don't get much credit for that IMO.

44-0, no one got near to beating, him, he out landed everyone. Be honest, whos better than him. He beat everyone put n front of him, all his mandatorys, beat the Top US competition, Top European competition. He a ATG imo. thoughts? is he not a considered "modern" fighter? Aztec got floyd at number 1 "modern" fighetr...whatever that means

based on the fact that joe didnt start fighting big fights till his last 3 years in the sport... based on both 40 year olds but joe on the deck.. based on jones and hopkins were in decline while joe wasnt past his prime yet... he was like a serg,, a late bloomer..... if you think joe would have beaten hopkins and jones say in 2001., more power to you.... IMO he gets beat by both...... dude struggled with robin reid.... He didn't have big fights according to who? You? Lol. I guess since Joe beat them both on points at the ages they fought, he'd have won earlier as well. Stop pretending Joe was in his prime when he fought Roy and Bernard. He wasn't.

Hard for me to call Joe the best of the last 20 years if I compare the resume with others. There is no doubt that he's one of the greats, but comparing his accomplishments with some other greats, it just doesn't measure up. Manny has victories over barrera, morales, marquez, cotto, hatton. The first 3 on that list are greater than a majority of Joe's resume. Hopkins breaks his own record to be the oldest champ ever and did so both times against live threats, still carries the record for most middleweight title defenses, and is still going soley on the strength of craft. His physical prime has long diminished nbut he's still threatening. I think there are a few others but I'm just pointing out those two off the top of my head. But, I don't think anyone can legitimately claim Joe isn't up there

He's definitely one of the greatest. Though I can see why Hopkins' fans/Americans would mostly disagree. They don't like what he's done to their favorite fighters.

It's a shame he never went on to fight Pavlik and Dawson when they were undefeated. Could have elevated his resume greatly.

"You gotta knock him out" - Enzo Calzaghe, before the beginning of the 12th round vs. Bernard Hopkins.

What would be the point of listing names when you know nothing about them? There is no point. Maybe when you learn more we can discuss the topic further. once again you fail to mention any names,,, because you dont have a clue about the guys that ross fought,,, you only know ross cause he is on some "list" you read,,,, lol at least i know holy's entire career and am not that big of an idiot to say he went 6-4 in his biggest fights.... your a troll... get off NSB better yet,, teach me all your knowledge,,, tell me about the great ross,, list those 10 biggest fights, and holy's iv been asking for like 3 pages now..... just keep dodging riddick bowe,,, i know your kind

What would be the point of listing names when you know nothing about them? There is no point. Maybe when you learn more we can discuss the topic further. BS grandpa goodnight,, way to duck an answer... just like bowe ducked lewis......

Read that top 100 list please, watch the footage as well. G'night exactly,,, dont answer the question read the top 100 list,,, which one, espn's ring's, bleacher report,,, everyone has their own list,,, you rank #1 on BS and still no answer about what fights you used to determine how holyfield was 6-4 and ross was 8-2 in their biggest fights.... what fights did you use,,, cant even answer a simple question about stats you threw out... thats pathetic,,,, but act like you know **** cause you read some "list" you give NSB a bad rep,,, just leave if you cant back up your claims that holy is 6-4 and ross 8-2 in their biggest fights i would have loved to see the list,, if you were right i would have said so,,, but i called BS and you proved it right by you not willing to answer your a fraud.......... Goodnight

Go away kid. There is no way you're as old as you claim. NO way. To never heard of Ross or Canzoneri or McClarnin is criminal. Here's a free lesson: http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/ross.html yet again you dodge the questions... i simply asked you to name the fights that you used when claiming that ross was 8-2 and holy was 6-4 in the biggest fights,,, straight BS im in my thirties been watching since the 80's and try my best to know the history why dont you just answer my question,,, what fights did you use,,, since holy only lost 1 in his prime,, maybe twice if you count moore fight.. i know you are full of crap,,, so funny to watch you avoid a question from your own statements,,, lol.. now go get your depends on and drink you prune juice and eat your fiber so you will be regular...... until you answer my question about what fights you used to compare ross and holy,, then just the F up......... just answer the question,,, you knew the records,, how come you cant say the fights,, cuz you just pulled it out of your arse now go post another link again cause thats about all you can do,,, Have a goodnight grandpa

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You won't even know Ross' era your knowledge doesn't extend that far back. Did you even know he fought Armstrong? Oh but he only fought white guys right :rofl: Go look him up though, you'll be impressed. yes it was his last fight and homicidal hank beat him.... dont act so snobbish,, were you around in the 30's and 40's what are you like 90 years old talking about the golden days.. just stop with this nonsense,, you probly like 50 years old and trying to be high and mighty in on this site,,, your probably an alt for someone... you have yet to answer my question name the fighters you used as holy and ross best opponents holy was 6-4 ross 8-2 please tell me the fights you used,, but im pretty sure you just pulled it out of your ARSE

Been around longer than Cruiser and had greater fighters than Cruiser. If you know more about boxing before the 1980s we could have this discussion but I'll leave you to watch and research more. Maybe one day though ! had greater fighters than cruiser,, what does that even mean..... just name the fighters you used for the best fighters ross and holy fought.. just name them