Cotto - Mayweather!!!
The suspense is killer.
What would motivate Floyd to do it though?
Money? - He doesn't need it. Although, he's probably fighting Oscar again hoping for another 25 million paycheck. Doubtful, he'd get that much for Cotto. I guess it'd have to be alot though, He quickly turned down 8 million when he refused Margarito.
And the pressure he got after refusing Marg, didn't get him in the ring either.
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Hydration is a significant factor when it comes to punch-resistance.
Anyone who's ever boxed when dehydrated will testify to this.
If you are dehydrated, punches will feel like bricks to your head. You will feel a strong discomfort following every sudden motion of your head, not only punches but also twists and turns, jumps and side to side movements.
Your vision will take longer to settle, your focus will be off and you will lose your ability to think sharp.
Training will also have a great factor in your chin. During hard and intensive training, you force the body to adapt to physical strain.
That part is easy. The hard part is getting yourself to train so hard that you strengthen the mind as well.
This part can only be trained when you think you are done, but you still continue.
And this is why some people get better when they face good opposition;
they "get up" and get motivated enough to train as hard as they can, thus coming into the fights in tip top shape. Mentally and physically.
This can also explain how some people can take punches from the best, but get knocked out by the lesser...
WOW!!!!! We need need more fact-posts like this on the site.
Excellent stuff.
Well maybe uniting the 4 ww belts would defuse alot of our debating.
According to Fightnews.com Cintron intends to unite the 4 belts. Cotto's next on Cintron's hit-list:
http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2/headlines//EEAlVuAVuZmuepTKLp.html
If Cintron gets past Marg, maybe he should start with an easier bout against Quintana, eh?
Whoa, look at all the articles on it. Alot of people believe it:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=mayweather+is+being+paid+for+wwe&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Yea, I can't see WWE making a profit for paying him so much, but then again,
Do you really think Floyd would even be interested for just 1 or 2 million?
Re: FantasticFloyd
Amigo,
Check this article out:
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=11270
Arum DOES want either Oscar or Floyd for Cotto.
It doesn't matter if you're a cotto fan or a mayweather fan. Seeing these in 2 in the ring would be great to watch and good for boxing, don't you think?
Some fights today would have better conclusions if we still had 15 rds.
...Also, in comparing todays boxers to yesterdays, we forget to factor in the 15 rds vs the 12!
Older Fighters Losing Their Reputations With Time.
Well said!
I'd even take it a step further. Alot of us boxing fans don't know or appreciate the hard work these fighters go through, yet we're quick to dismiss even a belt holder as a "bum".
You know you watch too much boxing when...
When you constantly call your daughter's pacifier her "mouthpiece"
100. when you think of people you dont like as bums
101. when you start a ten count any time some one falls over
102. your response to criticism is 'ya'll must have forgot'
109. you think about establishing your jab and working the body in street fights
110. you yell 'Break!' at people hugging in public
1- While hitting you girl doggy style you wear a mouth piece
4- While playing a game of b-ball you yell out to the person your guarding that your "defense is impregnable!"
2. Quit your Job, and come back the next day and tell your boss your just came out of retirement.
When you see a fly headed your way and you start bobing and weaving.
192. When you root for Rocky Balboa everytime he faces Drago!
201) when you feel your girlfriends boobs and say there firm but there fair
203.) When you refer to sexual intercourse as "sticking and moving".
204.) Whenever someone gives you a hug, you work them to the body like it was a clinch.
209.) After sex you say "no mas" and later complain about stomach cramps.
When you're arguing about a fantasy fight with someone on boxingscene then later you tell your girlfriend why you were right!
When your kid gets beat up at school, your response is " Keep your guard up "
#350 - when you're in the shower you face the shower head, hands pressed against the walls, head down, and let the water roll down your head as you contemplate the imaginary fight you lost.
357..when your girl starts swinging at you and u get into a mayweather shoulder roll.
When you're outside you avoid flys/bugs as if you're slipping punches. Occasionally countering them with left hooks.
When you land a left hook to the body cus your kid wouldn't throw out the trash!
419. You tell your wife that if she doesnt have dinner ready by 7, you will "eat her children"
489. when u call your travelling relatives journeymen
491. when u call work hours 2-5 in a 9-5 " the championship rounds!"
5. You have no teeth because you tried unsuccessfully to imitate Mayweather's defense in a street fight.
When you go for a shit thats scented in the toilet for more then 15 minutes and you call it a Nigel Benn (as his nickname was 'DARK DESTROYER', which in essence so are my shits.)
You proposed to your chick at the Philadelphia Zoo....
THESE WERE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!
:lol1::lol1:
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I definitely have some insight on this one! First of all people that box for real have some pretty clear advantages:
1)Through sparring they gain the ability to take punches and punishment.
2)Their nervous level before an engagement is lesser because they spar. This means they operate more efficiently once the fists or feet fly.
3)Their timing (through sparring) is much better.
4.)Their power is usually much better.
The martial arts such as MMA, Muay Thai or kickboxing offer some of the advantages I just mentioned for the boxer.
Wrestlers or judo can be a tough problem for a boxer, BUT these guys need to have entry skills to really deal with a striker.
I think some of the boxers in the pro ranks could do well in a street fight or against some of the martial artists. Fighters like Mike Tyson, Ricardo Mayorga, Shane Mosley, Manny Pacquiao, or Jeff Lacy to name a few. These are all agressive guys that hit really hard.
The boxers that pace themselves and BOX too much may not do well in a street fight because you would have to get your shots in immediately against a wrestler or judo, jujitsu guy that was determined to tie you up and throw you or to do a double leg takedown.
Boxers vs. most other martial arts: Karate, Tae Kwon Do, or some Kung Fu styles would be very advantageous to boxers because alot of these styles have no realistic sparring or proving grounds for their techniques. Unless the person is always using this stuff in an actual fight in his daily life.
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
Quality Post!
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Cintron did not turn down a cotto fight. Arum said he was a "possible" opponent and a dangerous one for cotto. Arum is a smart man so he put cotto in with jenkins for the vacant wbo in hopes of having a wba, wbo unification with margarito in the summer. N'dou and cintron was a fight to earn mandatory position for the IBF belt and since cintron won he is now clottey's mandatory they for they need to fight.
Yes he did.
Cintron turned it down before it even reached Arum.
Here's the first article: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=15361
Here's the 2nd: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=15452
All this talk and all the polls mean nothing. Cintron has only lost two professional fights, both to the baddest welterweight around, Antonio Margarito. Joshua Clottey is not Margarito and he won't be able to take Cintron's power and punishment. He's never faced anyone with the power that Cintron has and when he feels it...it will be lights out. Cintron in the most underrated fighter at 147. Somehow he gets left out of the conversations of the elite in the class yet all he has done is beat everyone he's ever faced except Margarito. I'll take Cintron against ANY of the other welterweights!
Cintron by mid to late KO!
Good post.
Cintron's main weapon is that right-hand bomb.
Clottey is made of steal. He took the best of Margarito's barage from rounds 9-12 nursing that wrist. Cintron's arsenal isn't enough for Clottey.
I can see Cintron keeping Clottey at bay though.
Clottey by Decision
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Don't blame the judges...they fell asleep too.
No, I don't think Berto would have KOed Collazo with one more round. Berto would have been exaughisted after rd12.
Not to take ANYTHING away from Berto, but
he was exhausted BEFORE round 12.
Don't forget the ref helped him up off his back.
I'm sure Berto could've layed down a bit longer.
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But 15 rounds would've been an interesting ending,
cause they both looked drained.
Collazo/Hatton comes to mind.
There might've been a different outcome to that one,
cause it seemed Hatton reached his limit at the end, no?
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Yes I am. He doesn't respect me, but I respect him.
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Not what I expected. Did Jack mature since the last time I interacted with him? I guess so. Now I feel bad for what I said.
Sorry Jack.
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Thanks, someone posted the pictures earlier, but I don't remember an article. Now watch posters come in with the degrading comments.
Ah,I missed that.
Ok, Thanks J.
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yea he looked real fearless on his knees
ive never seen mayweather on his knees...have you???
That's not the question.
We're talking about fearless fighters.
Yea, Cotto took the knee, but he's willing to step up again for rematch.
How's that being fearful?
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i gotta agree mosley is more deserving of the two
co-sign
Calzaghe never relied on steroids in order to win his biggest fights
Dude! don't lose perspective. You can't deny his overall talent displayed in the ring throughout his whole career because of his DLH 2 confession!!!
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This might have ended like Gollota Mollo. With 2 guys half asleep laying on eachother counting the seconds down. I'd love to have seen it though.
:lol1:
You're probably right!!!!
But at least they would've been awake, unlike the 12 round action of Valuev/Holyfield...
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Don't blame the judges...they fell asleep too.
I just dont get this nonsense about the cotto v margarito fight.Cotto fans just need to let it go.Cotto nailed margarito plenty of times in that fight,and margarito just smiled at him and kept pressing forward.Even if we say margarito had horse shoes in his gloves that night,he certainly didnt have them in his chin so i fail to see how the outcome would have been any different. I mean is anyone seriously suggesting that margarito wouldnt have had enough pop to have stopped him anyway after hitting him with so many punches?
Amigo, No one should question Marg's Chin EVEN after this whole controversy. The fact that he works out so hard probably adds to his ko-resistance. I wouldn't insist that Marg would've got knocked out by Cotto at all. (even though arguments can be made for/against it) But stop and think about worse case scenerio:
What if...IF...Marg rigged the wraps, there wouldn't have been those 'THUDDING' blows, Do you realize how much affect that alone has in a fight?
Without going into details and for the sake of not waisting time arguing what might've happened, couldn't you at least imagine the possibility that Cotto might've made it another 2 rounds to see a decision?
Lets not forget that Cotto has been dropped and in trouble on a good few occasions in the past,shit,even malignaggi hurt him!...
This is not to make excuses, cause even Cotto fans have to admit the questionable Cotto chin. But I'm sure you're posting this AFTER knowing that Cotto had weight issues at 140. The reason he moved up in division was because he was Ko-prone while struggling to make weight.
He took some great shots from Zab, Shane, and EVEN Marg up till the end.
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i have an interview after shanes 4th pro fight. he speaks exactly the same.
So Do I, and I agree.
I have every one of shane's fights including a few of his amatuer fights, and his sparring sessions with Julio Cesar Chavez.
Every one of his interviews he sounds similar.
Shane has SUPERB ring intelligence.
It's amazing how after a fight he can recollect what happened in certain rounds, and can analyze things so quickly.
How's that for being 'punchy'?
LOL...funny how NOBODY mentioned Mosley's slursing(?) prior to him KO'ing Margarito
LOL :dunno:
When was the last time you've seen Mosley in a brutal fight that would make one think he's getting hurt too much? His last competitive fight was against Cotto and though he was getting hit with shots, in no way did I think Mosley was hurt (stunned at times maybe).
Exactly.
He seemed tired.
Just stop to think of what he's going through right now.
Divorce can be depressing TO ANYONE!!! Doesn't matter WHO YOU ARE!
On top of that I'm sure the media inteviews/attacks must be exhausting.
Don't lose perspective. The man just made it to the top of division at age 37. Give him a little respect while he enjoys his glory.
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Ive never been a fan of the Margarito "hype"...
Hey DLT,
Don't mess with "AmercanGe".
Haven't you heard? He's an "internet gangster"
"internet ganster"...
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Even though he denies it out of humility...
well who said I was a e-gangster? . Im surely not one..
but a few moments after posting this message he signs as one in your thread...
never post about MArgarito again..
-e gangster
Look who's barking orders again.
One minute he's "surely not an -e ganster", and the next minute, he signs as one?
He can't come up with a rebuttle to your post, so
Instead Mr Dec 08 newbie commands as if he's in charge.
What's your problem DLT?! Posting your OPINION!?!? On NSB!!!???
God forbid the gangster's view changes after reading your thread.
Truth is, It's not your job to prove Marg cheated for the Cotto fight. It's Marg's job to prove he DIDN'T cheat in the past.
Of coarse mr "e-ganster" don't accept your post. He can't entertain the idea of Marg cheating in the past. He hasn't come to accept the fact that something was up with his hand wrap job against SHANE?!?!?!
how does it look like he cheated agaisnt Cotto? there is no proof that he tried to cheat against Shane...
It's one thing to be a die-hard-Marg-fan that's unwilling to accept the facts, but it's stupid if you can't even read a thread like this, because you're not willing to EXPLORE a different view.
I don't even have to argue 'guilty' or 'innocent', to point out 'ganster' contradicts himself and barks orders cause his arguments have no substance.
Don't even dirty your shoes to stomp him.
use these boots instead....
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Clottey is gunna punish Cintron..
I dont know why cintron is taking this fight..
Clottey will get in in the mid to late rounds like he did Judah
Yea Dangerous fight for Cintron, but he can't avoid him forever.
I remember last year Clottey accussed Cintron of ducking him:
MY: Prior to facing Cruz, you outpointed the unbeaten Shamone Alvarez fairly easily to become the mandatory challenger to Kermit Cintron. Why is Antonio Margarito fighting Cintron this Saturday and not you?
JC: Cintron keeps running away from me. In 2004 when I was with Lou Dibella (Dibella Entertainment) we tried to make the fight with Cintron and he avoided me then too!
(here's the link: http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:OjUVt-D8zAAJ:unlimitedfightnews.com/wordpress/%3Fp%3D1402+cintron+clottey+ducking&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&client=safari)
Only? You must have money to throw around. your acting like arum is doing us a favor.
LOL Sorry Chile,
I just meant if you're a big boxing fan, and were gonna buy the fight
when it was just Pavlik & Cotto, the bang for your buck just got a little better.
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Will he be the next big thing? or will he be just like a Amir Khan, a promising prospect that fail to live up to their hype?
If you're not excited by this guy's performance by NOW, then he'll never live up to your expectations or standards.
The guy has super speed, accuracy, great footwork, works hard in & out of the ring to put on exciting shows.
How many others are on the fast track of 5+ fights a year like him?
Complete or incomplete this guy IS "A BIG THING" already.
Even if he beats Callozo this Saturday the critics will say, "yea, he beat Callozo, but Callozo's not one of the Elite"
Well at age 25, if he fails against the Elite, he'll STILL have time to make a comeback.
Either way this guy lives up to his hype with EACH PERFORMANCE!
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Aye but it's alot better when the fights signed and sealed, that way we can egt on with the build up rather then listening to this shit.
TBF to Manny i can't see this really being down to him, more Arum.
It's most likely marketing buzz.
Look what it's doing on NSB.
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Don't blame the judges...they fell asleep too.
dope card, might actually buy this
Yea man, only $44.95
Clottey is underated...
True. But so is Cintron.
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I think there is a huge difference from being in the corner, and sitting ringside amongst the fans. The mentality would be totally different. Why do you think B-Hop wouldn't make a great trainer? Richardson just points things out for him as the fight goes on, but most of the time it's all Bernard. He's a mega gym rat and is ultra disciplined, he'd train Cotto the same way.
This is just all fantasy talk anyway. I really don't see Cotto getting a new trainer anytime soon if at all.
Yea, Bernard REALLY impressed me in his last countdown. When he was sitting with Richardson, and analyzing. I never saw that side of Bernard before. He even spoke effectively.
I can see him being a good trainer to someone that's early in their career. They'd respect what he has to say and there'd be no friction.
But it's like Cotto's already set. He's at the top, and his 'clay' can't be molded too much more.
I mean you see how frustrated Mayweather Sr gets with Hatton, or Manny Steward gets with Taylor, cause both fighters hear and agree with what their trainers are telling them to do. But I imagine just like the others Cotto would revert to HIS way of doing things, but Bernard is strongly-opinionated, so it wouldn't mesh well.
It doesn't matter WHAT trainer you bring to Cotto. If, for example, he prides himself on his ability to win without holding, NOONE can teach him how to hold.
He HAS to want the new training, but I doubt that'll happen.
He's STUBBORN cause he wins, but then again, he wins cause he's stubborn.
haha!
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...I wouldn't mind seeing him adding someone to his camp to tighten up a few things and work on his flaws a little, I don't think he'll leave his uncle.
Another trainer could tighten some things for Cotto. I never thought of an ADDITIONAL trainer.
.. There are things he needs to learn like holding that will really make him a complete fighter...
I AGREE with that! Someone's gotta teach him how to tie the other guy up!!!
He doesn't even KNOW how to hold. He looks awkward when he does. He prides himself on never holding which makes him exciting to watch, but now that he's at the top, he needs EVERY TRICK.
...I've always thought that B-Hop would be a great trainer some day, and if that day ever came I could really see Bernard taking Cotto in and polishing off his skills with some Philly D...
B-Hop is GOOD. But being good at fighting, and being good at training are TWO different skills!
Bernard can't sit still in his own seat while being in the audience. You think Cotto would like someone jumping down his throat with THEIR opinion every minute of the fight!?
NO WAY!!!! It'd probably distract more than help someone who concentrates on their own.
He needs someone that doesn't try to change him but takes his already existing strengths to a new level.
Bernard doesn't seem like the type to bend that way.
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that is f**kin silly, you think fighters get tats to make people think we are bad ass? we FIGHT FOR A LIVING hows that for being a bad ass? maybe if he was working at the local store that obsevation might be valid, but were talking about a world class fist fighter. and you say he quit? no he made a very wise decision to fight another day
QUALITY.
beat me to it.
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Seems like he partially dealt with the loss by getting tatoos, doesnt send the best mental stability signals if you ask me. I think Jennings may suprise everyone..
The first loss is depressing to EVERY fighter. Cotto's human, he has feelings too, so I imagine he was down on himself for a long while. It's not like he's been active these past few months to keep himself upbeat and distracted. MAYBE the tats are a way of coping. Maybe.
But let's not overreact here. Jennings is facing someone who's NOT done yet, and has something to prove to the public.
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