street fight vs. boxing

tell your buddy to go un-**** himself, because i'm curious as to how he thinks any of these pricks who hit up their dojo twice a week in between office hours and their evening tango classes with their fiance would even stand a chance against a habitual ass kicker who has nothing else on his mind but fighting his way to the top. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do some history homework. Dude never fought in a tournament with structured rules for a reason. Because it takes away the essence of a "fight" Yes I did some research and I learned that Bruce Lee actually crashed to earth after escaping from the planet Krypton and is therefore invulnerable to just about everything and cannot be defeated by anyone either. Dickhead. If a wrestler took me down in a life or death situation he better not like having eyeballs or ears. This is the nonsense part of the argument. "Ooh if it goes to ground then the wrestler wins!". Not if the wrestler is a clean cut college type and his opponent is a nasty ****er. On the other hand in an unarmed fight the better striker will likely "win" regardless of dirty tactics. I already made my feelings on street fights pretty clear in this thread, the winner is anyone who manages not to get hurt. But if you want to think of it in terms of "win" and "loss" then the "winner" is the guy who has the toughest friends.

Well also too, a lot of Martial Artists train in Western Boxing (mainly Jeet Kune Do and Wing Chun). My man practices with Dan Inosanto in LA (One of Bruce Lee's well known apprentices) and he told me they have Pro Boxers training students in the basic fundamentals of Boxing. These days more and more Martial Artists are becoming well rounded. And for the dude who said UFC guys can't throw hands like Boxers? Don't be so quick to judge. Anderson Silva is one of the most accurate punchers I've ever seen.

I definitely have some insight on this one! First of all people that box for real have some pretty clear advantages: 1)Through sparring they gain the ability to take punches and punishment. 2)Their nervous level before an engagement is lesser because they spar. This means they operate more efficiently once the fists or feet fly. 3)Their timing (through sparring) is much better. 4.)Their power is usually much better. The martial arts such as MMA, Muay Thai or kickboxing offer some of the advantages I just mentioned for the boxer. Wrestlers or judo can be a tough problem for a boxer, BUT these guys need to have entry skills to really deal with a striker. I think some of the boxers in the pro ranks could do well in a street fight or against some of the martial artists. Fighters like Mike Tyson, Ricardo Mayorga, Shane Mosley, Manny Pacquiao, or Jeff Lacy to name a few. These are all agressive guys that hit really hard. The boxers that pace themselves and BOX too much may not do well in a street fight because you would have to get your shots in immediately against a wrestler or judo, jujitsu guy that was determined to tie you up and throw you or to do a double leg takedown. Boxers vs. most other martial arts: Karate, Tae Kwon Do, or some Kung Fu styles would be very advantageous to boxers because alot of these styles have no realistic sparring or proving grounds for their techniques. Unless the person is always using this stuff in an actual fight in his daily life. Anyway, those are my thoughts. Quality Post! http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/anonymousboxing/welters2-1.gif

Really depends who you fight. A regular street fighter who swings aimlessly will more than likely get caught by a boxer easy. Now if you're fighting someone who does for instance Thai Boxing and Wing Chun and know what they're doing, the 1st instance the boxer makes to approaching that dude is more than likely gonna get his knee cap kicked right in. Bruce Lee made mention of it on an old TV show Longstreet Really comes down to who you're fighting. But a skilled Boxer IMO beats a regular Joe Blow streetfighter.

i reckon mayweathers a good street fighter

Haha you telling me those UFC Guys strike like a boxer? and its like i said its more their defensive limitations letting em down, They constantly open to be hit, which against a big puncher would spell KO!!! Yes some of them can!!! Fedor Emilalinko the Undisputed HW champ learned to box in Communist Russia sport machine during the 80's and then became world sambo champion before he started fighting in UFC and Pride. Anderson Silva, BJ Penn, Mirko Cro Cop are all examples of fighters that not only carry power in both hands but they can also knock you out with leg strikes and submit you on the ground if need be. They are complete fighters and not just one dimensional.

You do know that MMA has evolved to where most MMA fighters can strike just as well as this guy right?? I know this is really shocking and your mind might explode but they actually have boxing coach's now and some top level MMA fighters have high profile boxing coach's like Freddie Roach. It isn't 1996 anymore my friend. What that means is not only could a well rounded MMA fighter beat up these guys just as well with his fists but he could also take the boxer down in a 1 on 1 fight and break his ****ing arm. Haha you telling me those UFC Guys strike like a boxer? and its like i said its more their defensive limitations letting em down, They constantly open to be hit, which against a big puncher would spell KO!!!

but still not as good as a trained boxer so again, i would rather have trained boxers with me on the street than a trained mma. Former cruiserweight Boxing Champion vs Marginal MMA fighter. By the way this was in 94 or 95 which is ****ing crazy since MMA has evolved a hundred times over. I love how he toys with him with just a little ground a pound.

Wtf is a streetfighter? Ken and Ryu! Silly question. Boxers will be the best in any streetfight. I have bust a few MMA bums up with just my jab in street fights. In sunday league I only use a jab to bust up so called bar bralwing/streetfighting bums! You will find that many bums who believe this have never been in a fight, cannot fight aqnd have never done it thmeselves. A real fighter will know boxing rules and is numero uno, even if they started in martial arts their quest for fighting prowesss will lead them to a boxing gym and the truth. Ignore these bums who can't fight and say dumb things like that as they nothing about fighting! Boxing>>>>>>>>GEEKY Martial Arts If a kid trained in MMA and a kid trained in boxing, the boxing kid would win. MMA is usually what the soft-wannabe type of kid takes..he's not that mean. Usually its because MMA only does "light sparring", where as in a boxing gym..you have to be tough..expect to see blood.

You do know that MMA has evolved to where most MMA fighters can strike just as well as this guy right?? I know this is really shocking and your mind might explode but they actually have boxing coach's now and some top level MMA fighters have high profile boxing coach's like Freddie Roach. It isn't 1996 anymore my friend. What that means is not only could a well rounded MMA fighter beat up these guys just as well with his fists but he could also take the boxer down in a 1 on 1 fight and break his ****ing arm. but still not as good as a trained boxer so again, i would rather have trained boxers with me on the street than a trained mma.

That's the video I was talking about right there. This guy doesn't even seem to be all that strong or all that hard of a puncher, yet with his obvious boxing abilities he was able to f*ck both those guys up with ease and neither one had half a chance to do anything about it. And you bring up good points my man. Wrestling, MMA grappling, judo.. these are all prety good disciplines one on one, but in a fight with multiple opponents the key is to be able to strike and strike quickly.. and boxing is one of the kings of that kind of discipline. You do know that MMA has evolved to where most MMA fighters can strike just as well as this guy right?? I know this is really shocking and your mind might explode but they actually have boxing coach's now and some top level MMA fighters have high profile boxing coach's like Freddie Roach. It isn't 1996 anymore my friend. What that means is not only could a well rounded MMA fighter beat up these guys just as well with his fists but he could also take the boxer down in a 1 on 1 fight and break his ****ing arm.

You do know that boxing has been around for over 200years while martial arts have survived for thousands of years for a reason right??? They've been battle tested for thousands of years over hundreds of wars. They also exist for very different purposes so this argument is ridiculous.Boxing has been around a lot longer than that buddy. Boxing has been around since the time of the Greeks when they would stage boxing tournaments for Olympic medals.. and boxing has probably been around even longer than that.

on a side note, my sister named her son "Ryu". After Ryu of streetfighter. No joke.

That's the video I was talking about right there. This guy doesn't even seem to be all that strong or all that hard of a puncher, yet with his obvious boxing abilities he was able to f*ck both those guys up with ease and neither one had half a chance to do anything about it. And you bring up good points my man. Wrestling, MMA grappling, judo.. these are all prety good disciplines one on one, but in a fight with multiple opponents the key is to be able to strike and strike quickly.. and boxing is one of the kings of that kind of discipline.

Wtf is a streetfighter? Ken and Ryu! Silly question. Boxers will be the best in any streetfight. I have bust a few MMA bums up with just my jab in street fights. In sunday league I only use a jab to bust up so called bar bralwing/streetfighting bums! You will find that many bums who believe this have never been in a fight, cannot fight aqnd have never done it thmeselves. A real fighter will know boxing rules and is numero uno, even if they started in martial arts their quest for fighting prowesss will lead them to a boxing gym and the truth. Ignore these bums who can't fight and say dumb things like that as they nothing about fighting! Boxing>>>>>>>>GEEKY Martial Arts You do know that boxing has been around for over 200years while martial arts have survived for thousands of years for a reason right??? They've been battle tested for thousands of years over hundreds of wars. They also exist for very different purposes so this argument is ridiculous.

I had an argument today with a friend that believes that boxers cannot hold their own in a street fight. He believes that other combat sports such as karate, olympic wrestling, judo, mixed martial arts are highly superior compared to boxing and that boxers outside the ring cannot handle their own when they are not in the ring. He pretty much believes that boxing is the lowest form of fighting technique. I got really aggrevated by this and told him that boxing is very disciplined and that he wouldn't stand a chance against a boxer in the ring or outside the ring. He then responded by saying something dumb like "well boxers only punch, so in a street fight, I'll kick him in his knee and tackle him." By a response like that, I was really mad and also dissapointed thinking that a lot of non-boxing fans feel this way? Do any of your friends who are not boxing fans or boxing fans think that boxing is the lowest form of fighting technique? Your friend probably doesn't even know how to fight. Much of the time it depends on who it is. If a person who knows how to box, and they can utilize it and get rough in a fist fight, they can win. There is a reason boxing gyms make you sign a form after you learn how to box, your hands are weapons. I know a number of guys who box, who have won every fist fight they were in, and I know a few who got cramped up and lost because they were to nervous and afraid.

In a street fight a boxer will have advantages over a boxer and a boxer has advantages over a wrestler. If the fight goes to the ground the wrestler win but if the fight stays standing the fight goes to the boxer. But a well rounded MMA fighter will beat both without breaking a sweat. Why? Because he's well rounded! Thats the bottom line now shut the **** up already!

i would rather have boxers with me in a brawl than mixed martial artists. How many times do street fights involved more than one person? The last fight I was in, it was against 6 drunken dudes who were all pounding on a friend of mine outside of a club 2 years ago. I ran towards them and did prolly the only "MMA" strike that would had been effective for me for the whole incident. The "flying knee". I caught one of them with it and he went flying. After that, they all came at me and I began to throw punches at anyone getting closer to me. I only threw punches because punches took less time for me to throw than a round house kick, than another knee, than a kick. Of course, they eventually took me down, I was able to bring one guy down with me and just held on to him while the other 4 went to town on me. What good would had been an armbar? What good would had been grappling at that point? What good would had been a triangle choke? None at all. I would had gotten my ass beat worse. Lets get real here, most of us are most likely to get into a fight in a bar or club or outside of these places. When are these fights really just "one on one" fights? If you plan on being a street fighter, challenging people to one on ones, then Kickboxing would be the dicipline you want to learn because striking is the best technique to win fights. If you want to wreck shop because of the type of incidents that happen when you're out and about trying to have a good time, I'll take boxing over anything. Being good with your hands in street situations > being good on the floor perfect example

A "boxer" by nature is limited by the title: boxer, which in effect limits him to all the rules of the game, which, if he/she has been training in it for a long while, is only going to fight a certain way and expecting a certain response and result from his/her opponent. A streetfight, by nature, is dynamic and unpredictable, therefore no rules or agreements apply, and anything and everything can be utilised to defend oneself, i.e: one's body parts and/or objects. Oh, and there are no judges or referees to stop the fight if someone gets "hit below the belt". It is very difficult to end a fight with one punch. Much less, if one is not physically fit or conditioned to last more than a few minutes engaged in fighting. Too many variables come into play in a street fight, especially when one doesn't know who one is fighting or the environment where the fight just so happens to take place. Fighting in the squared circle provides a sense of security when the people involved know what to expect. A person who can "fight" should include and make use of all the tools of fighting available, not just throwing the hands as in boxing. Of course, one can master the boxing basics and be successful in many fights. The question then becomes are you fighting for sport, for fun, or to protect your own life and those you love? Your answer to that question is very critical and extremely important when choosing to fight in any way. The mixed martial arts have made a major contribution to the "sport" of fighting by making us aware that many people who adapt certain "styles" are in fact limited to that "style" or form of fighting. As you may guess, this sounds like a reference to the fighting philosophy of Bruce Lee, someone who has influenced myself and many around the world in the observation of hand to hand combat. Lee wanted people to observe and consider that fighting a certain way and naming that way of fighting, limits the person using that form of fighting and virtually puts him/her in a box, so to speak. The Gracie Jiu jitsu family just made the world more aware of this on a larger scale and proved that certain "styles" are limited in successful execution when it comes to fighting in a sport environment. Boxing, per say, is a very popular form of entertainment, exercise, and even a career for many who choose to participate in it. Just keep in mind that limitations apply when adapting any style of fighting. Ultimately, the best way to know if boxing or any other style works for you, is to simply fight others who use a different style or styles. This way, you would be applying a Bruce Lee methodolgy of: Find your own truth in combat. :boxing: This pretty much sums up the thread :fing02: otherwise, just look at the game street fighter . bALROG IS The form of tyson.... and i think he's one of the worst character in the game loL :chairshot:boxing: